The Energon Pub

Terradive and stockade? Terracade doesn't sound too bad.

ZeroWolf wrote:Terradive and stockade? Terracade doesn't sound too bad.

Haha. Or he could be the failed Decepticon Fund manager 'Stockdive.'

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Terradive and stockade? Terracade doesn't sound too bad.

Haha. Or he could be the failed Decepticon Fund manager 'Stockdive.'

So THAT'S who's behind TRU's demise!

I really would love to see more Beast Wars characters in a more G1 sort of theme like Power of the Primes Primal. I think Cheetor with the original yellow, blue, and gold colors but in a more G1 blocky (Ravage) aesthetic would be absolutely awesome.

Edit: BotCon Cheetor from the Cybertron Clocker mold works well in robot mode, but I really would like an animal version. Especially since he's also in IDW.

Also I know this list doesn't contain Beast Wars on purpose. I just thought I'd put Cheetor in as my desirable choice.

Another edit: I think they could retool the TR Wolfwire/Weirdwolf mold into a fairly decent Cheetor. Just sayin'.

Black Hat wrote:Armada Demolishor and Sideways, definitely. In fact the vast majority of Armada's designs would be cool in Generations- especially an Armada Prime that did the trailer super robot thing.

Other ones I'd like to put forward...

>Nitro Zeus, albeit more so that he could get "canonized" in more fiction. What a legend.
>Cybertron Thunderblast, as her old toy is quite expensive and also not very good, and she's also a childhood crush.
>Airahnid, because she deserves better than the trainwreck she got.
>RID Slapper, Dark Scream and Gas Skunk, even if only so poor Sky-Byte doesn't get lonely.

Total agreement with this.

I've been watching RID2001 for the first time, so more updates for that series would be great, especially the iconic predacon Trio.

I'd also like to see more Cybertron love, Thunderblast, Vector Prime, Crumplezone, Override, Crosswise, and all of the other characters whose toys I never got as a kid...

They seem eager to bolster female presence in the toyline, so Thunderblast, Airachnid and Override ought to be natural choices.

Maybe they can do a Slipstream from Elita?

Bucky wrote:Pretty great list, once again. I really love trying to form my top fives in my head, before reading, and seeing how they match up.

ZeroWolf wrote:Great list will , and a lot of points I agree with.

Flashwave wrote:Yeah, I gotta agree more with Kanra than with Will's.

I just wanted to point out that this list was put together by Decepticon Finishline. He came up with the idea and we worked to refine it. It actually created 2 lists in the end. We both thank you for your kind words.

So, excluding anything Beast Wars, which is where my mind instinctive went

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SillyMcGilly wrote:I really would love to see more Beast Wars characters in a more G1 sort of theme like Power of the Primes Primal.

Guess what the next list is about? To have as many characters as possible, we split it into G1 (the previous list), Beast Wars (the next list) and other characters from the various other continuities and universes (this list).

Agreed so much on Knockout and Thunderhoof. I have enjoyed them as characters and wish we had more of them in the series as a whole. Knockout certainly needs a toy with a better head, seems the TFP one doesn't really look like him in the show. The Thunderhoof toy is pretty fun but I wish it were more sturdy feeling. A generations toy of him that is on par with CW/TR/PoTP would me amazing!

Cool list

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

ToxicSmoke wrote:Armada Sideways, Armada Demolisher, and Prime Knock Out would be cool, but I would like to see them finally do Prime Insecticon or something we never really got. Kinda like Crowbar with the Studio Series line.

didn't he have a cyberverse commander re-issued in several colors?

Yeah, but the key word there is 'cyberverse.'

I agree strongly with this list

Most of these have potential. But I guess I'll just shut up, anticipate some more OP's, Bee's and Windblades and be happy about it.

I don't really want a new Thunderhoof, Hasbro's lightning rarely strikes the same place twice. I just can't see them repeating that magic a second time (especially in the Adventure deco).

My own list looks like this:

5) Energon Megatron - My favorite of the UT Megatron designs, It's a real mystery why they didn't repaint TR Galvatron into him. Not to say I'd want him to be a Headmaster, a new mold with full articulation would be ideal. Both Voyager and Leader size would have their merits.

4) TLK Cogman - We can always use more crazy old men in our updated G1 lore. As far as I'm concerned he was the best new character in the movie and would make for an interesting new Headmaster character, particularly being one that doesn't use a "living" body, more like a Japanese-style Transtector.

3) Energon Cruellock - Would be an easy PotP Rippersnapper retool (from one Terrorcon to another) and a decent addition to Starscream. But that's beside the point, he's a neat looking mini-Godzilla with a massive sword and as far as I'm concerned the most interesting looking of the Energon Terrorcons. Give him a bit of personality and he'd be a nice addition to the Decepticons.

2) TFCC Nexus Maximus/Prime (Skyfall, Landquake, Topspin, Heatwave, Breakaway) - Technically he's 2/5 G1, but I'd be all for him being 100% G1. He would have been an obvious choice for TFCC to have updated (though to my knowledge Pete never showed a prototype). It'd be nice if Hasbro would have picked up the reigns and taken a shot at him. He would have been a super easy figure to have just repainted from existing CW figures with new heads. Heatwave from Onslaught, Skyfall from Dreadwind, Breakaway from Blackwing, Twintwist from Alpha Bravo, and Landquake from a modified UW Nosecone with different guns. Just no clear plastic, please.

1) Armada Sideways - This figure is frustrating because it does things both right and wrong. I love that he is a double Headmaster, his Headmasters combine into a larger robot, and he also retails a normal bot head. Plus he has that neat faction symbol gimmick. Shame that as a figure his bot mode is pretty lousy with super limited useful articulation (just shoulders and hips really). He was a key character and really deserves an update.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

Bucky wrote:Pretty great list, once again. I really love trying to form my top fives in my head, before reading, and seeing how they match up.

ZeroWolf wrote:Great list will , and a lot of points I agree with.

Flashwave wrote:Yeah, I gotta agree more with Kanra than with Will's.

I just wanted to point out that this list was put together by Decepticon Finishline. He came up with the idea and we worked to refine it. It actually created 2 lists in the end. We both thank you for your kind words.

So, excluding anything Beast Wars, which is where my mind instinctive went

,

SillyMcGilly wrote:I really would love to see more Beast Wars characters in a more G1 sort of theme like Power of the Primes Primal.

Guess what the next list is about? To have as many characters as possible, we split it into G1 (the previous list), Beast Wars (the next list) and other characters from the various other continuities and universes (this list).

My apologies decepticon finishline, I should really pay more attention to the text above the list. it is a great list though, and I look forward to the beast wars list, my favourite era.

Would love to see the Elite Guard from the Zone series especially Big Bang as he never got an official figure......r appearance for that matter (was replaced by Star convoy in the return of convoy arc) but did appear in the IDW comics along side the other guards.

Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t realize this list was Finishline’s. Nicely done list.

william-james88 wrote:

So, excluding anything Beast Wars, which is where my mind instinctive went

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SillyMcGilly wrote:I really would love to see more Beast Wars characters in a more G1 sort of theme like Power of the Primes Primal.

Guess what the next list is about? To have as many characters as possible, we split it into G1 (the previous list), Beast Wars (the next list) and other characters from the various other continuities and universes (this list).

Oh, nice! Well if that’s the case...

5. Tripredicus Council (Ram Horn, Cicadacon, Seaclamp) - I know there was the 2016 Botxon set, but apart from not everyone being able to get it, I’m not really fond of the idea of them being combiners this time around. Whether it be a team of three, like the original toy, or a team of five like the Botcon set. Although, a combined team of just three, with a leader sized Seaclamp as the torso/legs, and Ram Horn and Cicadacon as the arms could look pretty interesting. I think including the council would make for a very dynamic twist to the overall story for this line. Combiner or not.

4. Wolfang/K-9 - I really, really love the blocky looking beasts from G1 like Ravage, the Predacons, Weirdwolf, Mindwipe, and Skullcruncher. I thought Hasbro/Takara did an especially great job with the latter three in Titans Return. My love of Beast Wars is matched only by my love of Headmasters. It would be cool to see either or both of these in that style.

3. TM2 Blackarachnia - As much as I like her original look, there’s something about the color scheme for her TM2 body that I really enjoy. I thought it was a great choice when they went that way for Animated, and I wouldn’t mind seeing it again.

2. Terrorsaur - Terrorsaur was basically the Starscream of the Beast Wars universe, and Starscream has always been a favorite of mine. They’re both conniving, insipid, sycophants and make a great foil for every faction, including their own.

1. Airazor - One of my favorites from Beast Wars, who I felt never got the screen time she deserved. She’s a great, noble character who frankly hasn’t gotten much love since BW, apart from appearing in the IDW comics a short while back. And if Hasbro is looking to expand their mainstream female cast of characters, Airazor is not only a prime candidate, she’s long, long overdue.

That would be my list. I can’t wait to see what you guys come up with! I’m looking forward to it.

To be fair, airazor did appear again in unicron #0...of course, being a fan of hers, you may have not liked the implication...though John warden would have got a kick out of it.

Airazor would be great, though if we don't get one I might pick up the Armada redeco of the Transmetal (in my insane collection "continuity" she is actually a he, albeit a rather girly one, and is Gigatron's long-suffering secretary).

A new Tripredacus would be awesome, though really what we need is a reissue with slight improvements to Sea Clamp and Cicadacon and an entirely new Ramhorn. But yeah, Tripredacus needs to happen.

I'll echo sentiments regarding TM2 Blackarachnia. Her original toy, whilst gorgeous looking, was a bit of a mess IIRC, and an updated toy would be awesome.

What I REALLY want (and I have said this before but hear me out) is a TR-compatible leader class Big Convoy (call him Colossus Prime or Behemoth Prime, with Titan Master Slammoth) with a "mammoth bone hut" base mode. Or failing that, a heavy retool of Alpha Trion- they practically have the same transformation anyway (beast head splits to form shoulders most notably).

Wasn't airazor a guy in the japanese version as well?

Why no love for magnaboss?

ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, airazor did appear again in unicron #0...of course, being a fan of hers, you may have not liked the implication...though John warden would have got a kick out of it.

I just read it and didn't see her. I just saw Cheetor and Prowl, the owl.

One thing that comes to mind when I consider a question like this is "would a new version actually be better?" For characters that were made in the past 5-6 years, I'm not sure another incarnation would help. In some cases it'd be likely, and the list's Prime Knock Out comes to mind as a character that I could see being improved in plastic form by another go.

For stuff not on the list, I think Leobreaker is a good candidate. You've even got choices! Overhaul to Leobreaker "Evolution" Leader class could be fun. Alternately, make one similar to the original but add in all the stripped out gimmicks that were casualties of 2006 Hasbro cost cutting. Even still, there's the Chimeracon (Sins of the Wreckers) version out there!

Or just make a freakin Signal Lancer already

ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, airazor did appear again in unicron #0...of course, being a fan of hers, you may have not liked the implication...though John warden would have got a kick out of it.

I am so far behind on the comics it isn’t even funny. I’m slowly playing catch-up.

Black Hat wrote:Airazor would be great, though if we don't get one I might pick up the Armada redeco of the Transmetal (in my insane collection "continuity" she is actually a he, albeit a rather girly one, and is Gigatron's long-suffering secretary).

A new Tripredacus would be awesome, though really what we need is a reissue with slight improvements to Sea Clamp and Cicadacon and an entirely new Ramhorn. But yeah, Tripredacus needs to happen.

I'll echo sentiments regarding TM2 Blackarachnia. Her original toy, whilst gorgeous looking, was a bit of a mess IIRC, and an updated toy would be awesome.

What I REALLY want (and I have said this before but hear me out) is a TR-compatible leader class Big Convoy (call him Colossus Prime or Behemoth Prime, with Titan Master Slammoth) with a "mammoth bone hut" base mode. Or failing that, a heavy retool of Alpha Trion- they practically have the same transformation anyway (beast head splits to form shoulders most notably).

Yeah, I’ve heard that said a lot. While I used to have a substantial BW collection, which I’m slowly trying to re-acquire, I never had either Blackarachnia figures. I don’t think I’ll ever get one either, considering the outrageous prices both her figures go for. Especially her TM2 toy. It’s a little nuts that a toy that can barely hold a standing pose goes for such a high price.

I didn’t pick any of the TR leaders, except for the God Ginrai set, but a leader Big Convoy with Titan master is one I’d pick up in a heartbeat.

Emerje wrote:
2) TFCC Nexus Maximus/Prime (Skyfall, Landquake, Topspin, Heatwave, Breakaway) - Technically he's 2/5 G1, but I'd be all for him being 100% G1. He would have been an obvious choice for TFCC to have updated (though to my knowledge Pete never showed a prototype). It'd be nice if Hasbro would have picked up the reigns and taken a shot at him. He would have been a super easy figure to have just repainted from existing CW figures with new heads. Heatwave from Onslaught, Skyfall from Dreadwind, Breakaway from Blackwing, Twintwist from Alpha Bravo, and Landquake from a modified UW Nosecone with different guns. Just no clear plastic, please.

I was thinking about this yesterday. How, after the War for Cybertron (or maybe conclusion TO War For Cybertron-) trilogy, it would be cool to do, like, a "God War" to get proper version of the Primes.

I agree with the mechanics of Nexus Prime. I'd like to see the names changed (given that Topspin is it's own G1 character). I was thinking, since NEXUS has five letters, each member could be names for each letter.

Plus, since Nexus Prime is a god, the individual bots could have stupid-edgy names. Here is what I came up with: Neo; Eon; X (the torso); Ultima; Supra.

Supra wasn't the one I had the other day. I had something better. I just can't remember what.

Emerje wrote:
3) Energon Cruellock - Would be an easy PotP Rippersnapper retool (from one Terrorcon to another) and a decent addition to Starscream. But that's beside the point, he's a neat looking mini-Godzilla with a massive sword and as far as I'm concerned the most interesting looking of the Energon Terrorcons. Give him a bit of personality and he'd be a nice addition to the Decepticons.

Dang! Let's just do all of them! Do the Energon Terrorcons for Starscream's combiner. THEN each could yield limbs for Soundwave and Soundblaster combiners that should have happened anyways.

Except for Insecticon. But Insecticon could be the start of those Deluxe Insecticons that I want for a Shockwave combiner.

Wait wait wait...cruellock...most interesting terrorcon? Divebomb begs to differ.

ZeroWolf wrote:Wait wait wait...cruellock...most interesting terrorcon? Divebomb begs to differ.

Most interesting looking. Divebomb probably has the most intuitive transformation of the Terrorcons (or much of Energon for that matter) and I like his ninja bot mode, but I don't like his bird mode all that much and I find Cruellock's overall look a lot more appealing.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Wait wait wait...cruellock...most interesting terrorcon? Divebomb begs to differ.

Most interesting looking. Divebomb probably has the most intuitive transformation of the Terrorcons (or much of Energon for that matter) and I like his ninja bot mode, but I don't like his bird mode all that much and I find Cruellock's overall look a lot more appealing.

Emerje

I'm torn on the Terrorcons. Cruellock as you say is very cool (he's a Godzilla/velociraptor hybrid with a giant sword!) but I find Divebomb to be the objectively better toy. Though I'd say that means Cruellock is in more need of an update.

What is it you don't like about Divebomb's bird mode if I may ask? I always found it one of the best bird modes the franchise has.