The Energon Pub

That does seem to cover everything. Couple of points, and they're incredibly minor:

• the rocket pack in MTMTE failed because Megatron shot Prime out of the sky.
• It was the Stunticons that were created because the 'Cons couldn't follow them on the ground. The Combaticons were created/reactivated by Starscream to overthrow Megatron.
• Finally, the Dinos first fly in SOS Dinobots. Probably a good thing, as if they'd walked, Prime and co would have been executed long before the Dinos arrived. I think Wheeljack flew in that episode, but I'm not 100% sure without going back to check.

Edit ~ a picture speaks a thousand words. Screengrab from SOS Dinobots:

Yup your right the Dinobots and Wheeljack are flying. It should be noted that I think that was the only time that Wheeljack flew because I don't think he did in Season two.

Swoop certainly can fly.

Auto Bot wrote:Swoop certainly can fly.

Allready mentioned Autobots with aireal alt modes can fly. You didn't think that just ment planes and space crafts did you?

Swoop definatly has an arieal alt mode, may be a dinosaur but still counts as part of the Aireal Autobots.

I actully have a better question.

The Decepticons who without a doubt can fly don't all have flying alt modes. Actully quite alot of Decepticons including Megatron himself just fly in Robot mode.

The Decepticons and Autobots who have flying alt modes allways transform to fly.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

Saber Prime wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Swoop certainly can fly.

Allready mentioned Autobots with aireal alt modes can fly. You didn't think that just ment planes and space crafts did you?

Swoop definatly has an arieal alt mode, may be a dinosaur but still counts as part of the Aireal Autobots.

I actully have a better question.

The Decepticons who without a doubt can fly don't all have flying alt modes. Actully quite alot of Decepticons including Megatron himself just fly in Robot mode.

The Decepticons and Autobots who have flying alt modes allways transform to fly.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

Starscream and the Seekers, and Jetfire should be able to fly in robot mode. They all have their thruster under their feet. Which gives them vertical thrust. But they won't fly fast in robot mode.

I always think Swoop should fly slow. Like when gliding. Dino flapping wings can't be fast.

Saber Prime wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Swoop certainly can fly.

The Decepticons who without a doubt can fly don't all have flying alt modes. Actully quite alot of Decepticons including Megatron himself just fly in Robot mode.

The Decepticons and Autobots who have flying alt modes allways transform to fly.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

Have you watched ANY of G1?

Saber Prime wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Swoop certainly can fly.

Allready mentioned Autobots with aireal alt modes can fly. You didn't think that just ment planes and space crafts did you?

Swoop definatly has an arieal alt mode, may be a dinosaur but still counts as part of the Aireal Autobots.

I actully have a better question.

The Decepticons who without a doubt can fly don't all have flying alt modes. Actully quite alot of Decepticons including Megatron himself just fly in Robot mode.

The Decepticons and Autobots who have flying alt modes allways transform to fly.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

To answer your question, the alt modes on earth give them more speed and arodynamic ablity. Also considering they're on earth the sight of flying robots would be rather freaky. I'm assuming that Megatron eventually reverts to gun mode and fits snugly in one of the seeker cockpits, ditto Soundwave for longer flights. And no they don't have to transform to fly. Starscream in an early episode flew without transforming, and at other times he did the same thing.

I think it depends also on the transformer.

Sledge wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Swoop certainly can fly.

The Decepticons who without a doubt can fly don't all have flying alt modes. Actully quite alot of Decepticons including Megatron himself just fly in Robot mode.

The Decepticons and Autobots who have flying alt modes allways transform to fly.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

Have you watched ANY of G1?

I've watched all of every American relised series including that horrible Transformers Armada.

Only Transformers I don't watch are the Japanise series.

I even have Season 1 box set of G1 on VHS and the movie.

So if you've seen the series then you know that the Cons can fly in or out of Robot mode. Soooo, why the question then about them flying only in alt mode?

Night Striker wrote:So if you've seen the series then you know that the Cons can fly in or out of Robot mode. Soooo, why the question then about them flying only in alt mode?

I thought his question was if Bot's with airel modes can fly in their robot modes.....and right now I'm to sleepy to remember.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

That was the orignal question. If bots with the wings can't fly in Robot mode, and if they actually have to transform to fly.

Night Striker wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Swoop certainly can fly.

Allready mentioned Autobots with aireal alt modes can fly. You didn't think that just ment planes and space crafts did you?

Swoop definatly has an arieal alt mode, may be a dinosaur but still counts as part of the Aireal Autobots.

I actully have a better question.

The Decepticons who without a doubt can fly don't all have flying alt modes. Actully quite alot of Decepticons including Megatron himself just fly in Robot mode.

The Decepticons and Autobots who have flying alt modes allways transform to fly.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

To answer your question, the alt modes on earth give them more speed and arodynamic ablity. Also considering they're on earth the sight of flying robots would be rather freaky. I'm assuming that Megatron eventually reverts to gun mode and fits snugly in one of the seeker cockpits, ditto Soundwave for longer flights. And no they don't have to transform to fly. Starscream in an early episode flew without transforming, and at other times he did the same thing.

I think it depends also on the transformer.

Just like Blaster transforming into boombox mode and riding inside Tracks.

in the words of drsmoov's megatron: to prime "thats big talk for a robot that cant even fly, do you need to borrow a rocket pack? thundercracker, pull a rocket pack out of your ass and give it to optimus!"

lolsz!

Night Striker wrote:So if you've seen the series then you know that the Cons can fly in or out of Robot mode. Soooo, why the question then about them flying only in alt mode?

Because maybe I don't remember every single little tiny detail of every single episode right off hand. As if anyone can remember everything.

Saber Prime wrote:

Night Striker wrote:So if you've seen the series then you know that the Cons can fly in or out of Robot mode. Soooo, why the question then about them flying only in alt mode?

Because maybe I don't remember every single little tiny detail of every single episode right off hand. As if anyone can remember everything.

You HAVE to remember everything. We have a Grand TRansformers Quiz Show coming up soon!

Auto Bot wrote:

Night Striker wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Swoop certainly can fly.

Allready mentioned Autobots with aireal alt modes can fly. You didn't think that just ment planes and space crafts did you?

Swoop definatly has an arieal alt mode, may be a dinosaur but still counts as part of the Aireal Autobots.

I actully have a better question.

The Decepticons who without a doubt can fly don't all have flying alt modes. Actully quite alot of Decepticons including Megatron himself just fly in Robot mode.

The Decepticons and Autobots who have flying alt modes allways transform to fly.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

To answer your question, the alt modes on earth give them more speed and arodynamic ablity. Also considering they're on earth the sight of flying robots would be rather freaky. I'm assuming that Megatron eventually reverts to gun mode and fits snugly in one of the seeker cockpits, ditto Soundwave for longer flights. And no they don't have to transform to fly. Starscream in an early episode flew without transforming, and at other times he did the same thing.

I think it depends also on the transformer.

Just like Blaster transforming into boombox mode and riding inside Tracks.

Bingo! Exactly Auto-bot! ^_^

Megatron probably likes to be seen flying by the Autobots, the whole idea of him not being afraid of things, but he probably does eventually transform and sit in Starscream or Thundercracker.

Auto Bot wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Night Striker wrote:So if you've seen the series then you know that the Cons can fly in or out of Robot mode. Soooo, why the question then about them flying only in alt mode?

Because maybe I don't remember every single little tiny detail of every single episode right off hand. As if anyone can remember everything.

You HAVE to remember everything. We have a Grand TRansformers Quiz Show coming up soon!

I know this is probaly a joke but that actully sounds like a great idea.

Night Striker wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Night Striker wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Swoop certainly can fly.

Allready mentioned Autobots with aireal alt modes can fly. You didn't think that just ment planes and space crafts did you?

Swoop definatly has an arieal alt mode, may be a dinosaur but still counts as part of the Aireal Autobots.

I actully have a better question.

The Decepticons who without a doubt can fly don't all have flying alt modes. Actully quite alot of Decepticons including Megatron himself just fly in Robot mode.

The Decepticons and Autobots who have flying alt modes allways transform to fly.

Do you think the characters who have aireal alt modes can't fly in robot mode? Do they actully HAVE to transform to fly? Obviously there are characters who fly only in robot mode so the need for a flying alt mode isn't really nessisary is it?

To answer your question, the alt modes on earth give them more speed and arodynamic ablity. Also considering they're on earth the sight of flying robots would be rather freaky. I'm assuming that Megatron eventually reverts to gun mode and fits snugly in one of the seeker cockpits, ditto Soundwave for longer flights. And no they don't have to transform to fly. Starscream in an early episode flew without transforming, and at other times he did the same thing.

I think it depends also on the transformer.

Just like Blaster transforming into boombox mode and riding inside Tracks.

Bingo! Exactly Auto-bot! ^_^

Megatron probably likes to be seen flying by the Autobots, the whole idea of him not being afraid of things, but he probably does eventually transform and sit in Starscream or Thundercracker.

He just want to show off his shiny chrome body. Makes him more intimidating.

I doubt that will be the case if he runs out of Energon.

"Don't leave me, Soundwave."

Saber Prime wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Night Striker wrote:So if you've seen the series then you know that the Cons can fly in or out of Robot mode. Soooo, why the question then about them flying only in alt mode?

Because maybe I don't remember every single little tiny detail of every single episode right off hand. As if anyone can remember everything.

You HAVE to remember everything. We have a Grand TRansformers Quiz Show coming up soon!

I know this is probaly a joke but that actully sounds like a great idea.

You are... corrrect!

It's a joke and a great idea!
50 energon points for you.

Any idea if we can do some sort quiz show here?

Here's one for you. This episode clearly shows Prowl flying. He's even doing the classic "Superman" pose.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vCPwH-YZczg

Here's another error in the same episode.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F6cb0mWYViY& ... ed&search=

How does Skyfire get infected when he's too big to go inside the Autobot base or use the recharging chambers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg6xUKT9tVA

Even further errors. Ratchet trys to take credit for creating the devices that cured everyone but he was still infected himself when Sparkplug made them. The only ones at the base were Sparkplug, Jazz, and an evil Bluestreak.

Allso in the Return of Optimus Prime they say they need a Quentison to bring Optimus back to life because he was originally built by the Quints and they revived him once before.

As far as the rest of the series before that is concerned Alpha Trion was the one who built Optimus Prime from a damaged Orian Pax not the Quints. Now if you wanna try to convince me the Quints built Orian then that means what? Optimus was killed and revived in the series 3 times. Twice by the quints and once by Alpha Trion.

And Beast Wars talked about Starscream's ivulnerable spark, what about Optimus? Starscream's only been killed twice and resurected once.

It would still be 2 times because Orion didnt die!!he has badly damaged but not dead.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:It would still be 2 times because Orion didnt die!!he has badly damaged but not dead.

He would have been dead if he wasn't rebuilt as Optimus so it it still counts.

Actually Starscream only died once. He wasn't fatally blasted, just wounded.

He just want to show off his shiny chrome body. Makes him more intimidating.

I doubt that will be the case if he runs out of Energon.

"Don't leave me, Soundwave."

Funny Auto bot, funny...but very true. Megatron has an ego. Might not be as big as Starscreams or Sunstreakers, but he has an ego. One of Megatrons best moments with Soundwave was that scene.

Hummm....actually that would be a fun game to play. See who knows the most about transformers on this site.

Saber Prime wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:It would still be 2 times because Orion didnt die!!he has badly damaged but not dead.

He would have been dead if he wasn't rebuilt as Optimus so it it still counts.

No because when the Airel-bots took him to Alphatrion,he first checks Orion and says he does have a strong spirt within him.If he were dead there would be no sprit or spark in him.
watch

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9MLzIHmBTzM

sorry sabe I misread your post but almost dieing isnt the same as dieing.