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by **OptimusN1701** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:44 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:Actually, Sto vo kor knows everything. He seems to have the answers to a lot of people's questions on here. I'm joining his house.

I too would be honored to join the house of Sto_vo_kor

You can never have too many Klingon allies

Unless of course they all get wasted on blood wine and start a bar brawl

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:14 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:Actually, Sto vo kor knows everything. He seems to have the answers to a lot of people's questions on here. I'm joining his house.

Any time you want Babe........you know I luv ya

May you die well.

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:17 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Actually, Sto vo kor knows everything. He seems to have the answers to a lot of people's questions on here. I'm joining his house.

Any time you want Babe........you know I luv ya

May you die well.

uh...what did we do last night?? See what happens when we bring out the 2309!!

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:18 pm

OptimusN1701 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Actually, Sto vo kor knows everything. He seems to have the answers to a lot of people's questions on here. I'm joining his house.

I too would be honored to join the house of Sto_vo_kor

You can never have too many Klingon allies

Unless of course they all get wasted on blood wine and start a bar brawl

Let us crack open a bottle of 2309 and toast to the victory of the House of STO_VO_KOR

Any body know any Klingon drinking songs......I do :-B

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:20 pm

Oh NO! You're one of those that speak Klingon aren't you??? Please tell me you just memorized the songs from the show. I bet you know every Klingon on Star Trek...

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:22 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Actually, Sto vo kor knows everything. He seems to have the answers to a lot of people's questions on here. I'm joining his house.

Any time you want Babe........you know I luv ya

May you die well.

uh...what did we do last night?? See what happens when we bring out the 2309!!

If you do not remember I can show you the video.......you wont believe the things we did.I have no shame....and no regrets. :-P

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:25 pm

I was wondering why I had so many broken bones.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:27 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:Oh NO! You're one of those that speak Klingon aren't you??? Please tell me you just memorized the songs from the show. I bet you know every Klingon on Star Trek...

I just know a few words..I got a Kligon to English book once from my bro for X-mas........and I do have most of the songsmemorized but its not from trying.My mind has a limitless capassity for useless information.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:28 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:I was wondering why I had so many broken bones.

Well, you were trying new things.....your quite felxable :shock:

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:29 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Oh NO! You're one of those that speak Klingon aren't you??? Please tell me you just memorized the songs from the show. I bet you know every Klingon on Star Trek...

I just know a few words..I got a Kligon to English book once from my bro for X-mas........and I do have most of the songsmemorized but its not from trying.My mind has a limitless capassity for useless information.

I prefer the opera to the battle songs myself. Klingons have the best music in Star Trek.

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:30 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:I was wondering why I had so many broken bones.

Well, you were trying new things.....your quite felxable

I am?? That's news to me! Bloodwine can do wonders, apparently.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:33 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:I was wondering why I had so many broken bones.

Well, you were trying new things.....your quite felxable

I am?? That's news to me! Bloodwine can do wonders, apparently.

I guess I'm a good teacher :oops:

But you we're truly a wonder.......I cant wait till next time

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:33 pm

We have so totally and utterly derailed this thread. We should start another Star Trek thread.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:37 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:We have so totally and utterly derailed this thread. We should start another Star Trek thread.

We should.......but lets not invite anyone else.....just you and me.

by **OptimusN1701** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:41 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Actually, Sto vo kor knows everything. He seems to have the answers to a lot of people's questions on here. I'm joining his house.

I too would be honored to join the house of Sto_vo_kor

You can never have too many Klingon allies

Unless of course they all get wasted on blood wine and start a bar brawl

Let us crack open a bottle of 2309 and toast to the victory of the House of STO_VO_KOR

Any body know any Klingon drinking songs......I do

how good are you at Aktuh and Melota?

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:43 pm

OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Actually, Sto vo kor knows everything. He seems to have the answers to a lot of people's questions on here. I'm joining his house.

I too would be honored to join the house of Sto_vo_kor

You can never have too many Klingon allies

Unless of course they all get wasted on blood wine and start a bar brawl

Let us crack open a bottle of 2309 and toast to the victory of the House of STO_VO_KOR

Any body know any Klingon drinking songs......I do

how good are you at Aktuh and Melota?

So your a kligon opera fan?????

by **OptimusN1701** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:47 pm

Aktuh and Melota was one of many reasons Unification was a great episode

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:51 pm

OptimusN1701 wrote:Aktuh and Melota was one of many reasons Unification was a great episode

And Spock smiled in that one too

by **OptimusN1701** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:54 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Aktuh and Melota was one of many reasons Unification was a great episode

And Spock smiled in that one too

Oh yea, i forgot about that. Sarek's death in part 1 was saddening though :cry:

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:56 pm

OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:Aktuh and Melota was one of many reasons Unification was a great episode

And Spock smiled in that one too

Oh yea, i forgot about that. Sarek's death in part 1 was saddening though

Sarek, The second best Vulcan we ever met........Do you know what other Alien's Mark Lenard playd on Star Trek??????

by **OptimusN1701** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:04 am

do you mean aside from the Romulan commander in the Balance of Terror?

Btw, I just started a new star trek thread in GD

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:06 am

OptimusN1701 wrote:do you mean aside from the Romulan commander in the Balance of Terror?

Btw, I just started a new star trek thread in GD

Yes there's one other?????
And cool I'll check it out.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:43 am

Damolisher wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Just a further question: if it is all one canon, does that mean people can't speak of "a canon for the IDW universe", for example?

WTF? One Canon? Has he been smoking rocks again? There isn't one canon, there's several different canons. There's comic canon, there's TV canon, there's Japanese canon, there's english canon, etc. For Example: The events of Masterforce are canon in Japan, but are non-canon over here, since we have different characters with different origins for our takes on characters who appeared in Masterforce. So, as I said, it's canon in Japan, it's non-canon to us, since their take doesn't effect our continuities at all. We also don't have Minerva, much like they don't have Nightbeat. Over there, Ginrai is not Optimus Prime, he's a lifeless body who is powered by a trucker, whereas here, it's Powermaster Prime poerwed by Hi-Q, you see?

That's sort of my point. Tramp's viewpoint is that it is all one canon, a canon that contains multiple universes. I'm asking, if that's the case, does it preclude discussions of a canon specific to any one universe?

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:00 am

Leonardo wrote:
Damolisher wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Just a further question: if it is all one canon, does that mean people can't speak of "a canon for the IDW universe", for example?

WTF? One Canon? Has he been smoking rocks again? There isn't one canon, there's several different canons. There's comic canon, there's TV canon, there's Japanese canon, there's english canon, etc. For Example: The events of Masterforce are canon in Japan, but are non-canon over here, since we have different characters with different origins for our takes on characters who appeared in Masterforce. So, as I said, it's canon in Japan, it's non-canon to us, since their take doesn't effect our continuities at all. We also don't have Minerva, much like they don't have Nightbeat. Over there, Ginrai is not Optimus Prime, he's a lifeless body who is powered by a trucker, whereas here, it's Powermaster Prime poerwed by Hi-Q, you see?

That's sort of my point. Tramp's viewpoint is that it is all one canon, a canon that contains multiple universes. I'm asking, if that's the case, does it preclude discussions of a canon specific to any one universe?

In Tramps point of view it does....I'll give you an exsample,In the G1 toon it was Primacron that created Unicron as a weapon of mass destruction....this was unique to the Transformers Universes of the time and since {both Marvel U.K. and U.S. had him as a God of sorts] [Dreamwave,The Ulitamate Guide,Armada,Energon and Cybertron also a God]
From Tramps point of view the Guide rewrites any inconsistasy about issues with Unicron or Primus,in effect changing the stories told in ether minor or major ways and in some cases wipeing the story compleaty clean ,depending on the story.
Now I'm not saying he's wrong,But the Guide does a F'd up job of fixing the inconsistasy of those retcons.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:07 am

That's the problem with The Ultimate Guide. While it tries to remove any inconsistencies between the universes, its actual descriptions of those universes sometimes end up being inconsistent with the actual texts it's discussing.

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