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Postby Omega Sentinel » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:42 pm

Tammuz wrote:what's currently functional regarding bot modes and kremzeeks?
Haven't removed Kremzeeks yet but they will disappear within the next day.
Have no plans to remove robot modes at all.
The automated leveling scale is still running accurately.
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Postby Tammuz » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:47 pm

sorted out the computational's uber defence thing then?
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Postby Omega Sentinel » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:49 pm

Tammuz wrote:sorted out the computational's uber defence thing then?
Nope. I'll probably just go ahead and remove the robot modes if there is a bug that big.

EDIT: Robot modes will be removed tommorrow.
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Postby Jeep? » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:57 pm

Really? Cause don't joke. I'm not sitting and reformatting my guys again only to find out you're joking.
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Postby Tammuz » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:07 pm

ah well would you mind commenting on this
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... on_id=2152

Dragonfyres first hit on Hifix does 20% damage, according to my maths 8 str blades shoulds be doing about 34% damage minimum against a bot with 6 end and no armour.

hifix has 10 computational bot mode upgrades.

EDIT: last damn time i score my logs to find an example.

will the bots automatically lose bot modes and have the xp invested in them returned or will the bot modes just lose functionality.
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Postby Rat Convoy » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:11 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Tammuz wrote:sorted out the computational's uber defence thing then?
Nope. I'll probably just go ahead and remove the robot modes if there is a bug that big.

EDIT: Robot modes will be removed tommorrow.


Please don't. I'd rather have them be slightly off than not have them at all.
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Postby Tammuz » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:14 pm

Rat Convoy wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Tammuz wrote:sorted out the computational's uber defence thing then?
Nope. I'll probably just go ahead and remove the robot modes if there is a bug that big.

EDIT: Robot modes will be removed tommorrow.


Please don't. I'd rather have them be slightly off than not have them at all.


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Postby Omega Sentinel » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:47 pm

Tammuz wrote:will the bots automatically lose bot modes and have the xp invested in them returned or will the bot modes just lose functionality.
Things are being set to the way they were before I came on board.
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Postby Scantron » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:48 pm

Rat Convoy wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Tammuz wrote:sorted out the computational's uber defence thing then?
Nope. I'll probably just go ahead and remove the robot modes if there is a bug that big.

EDIT: Robot modes will be removed tommorrow.


Please don't. I'd rather have them be slightly off than not have them at all.


Much as I'm a little concerned about everything just suddenly being removed lately, the Computational Mode is more than "slightly" off and definitely deserves to be taken out or fixed.
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Postby Jeep? » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:51 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Tammuz wrote:will the bots automatically lose bot modes and have the xp invested in them returned or will the bot modes just lose functionality.
Things are being set to the way they were before I came on board.


Is this some sort of a clue about the reset, or am I getting all wishful-thinkingy?
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Postby Omega Sentinel » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:53 pm

Jeep! wrote:Is this some sort of a clue about the reset, or am I getting all wishful-thinkingy?
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Postby Jeep? » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:55 pm

Oh. Well, can we set the way-back-machine a little further and set no-recharge weapons to never miss so that noobs get raped, bugger the armour again so rank is useless, unfix repair so it doesn't work again, and remove tactics from the level calculations so we can go back to the days of lvl 1s with 10 avoid?
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Postby Tammuz » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:55 pm

so we won't have to manually reset our bots to retreive the xp, sorry i'm being a little slow.
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Postby Redimus » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:58 pm

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He didnt put it very diplomaticly, but Jeep has a point. Why remove these new features? Sure they dont all work properly yet, but surly the easiest way of getting em to work would be to leave em on and just keep modifying em slightly until they do work properly.
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Postby Omega Sentinel » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:58 pm

Jeep! wrote:Oh. Well, can we set the way-back-machine a little further and set no-recharge weapons to never miss so that noobs get raped, bugger the armour again so rank is useless, unfix repair so it doesn't work again, and remove tactics from the level calculations so we can go back to the days of lvl 1s with 10 avoid?
Cause that'd be super.
No. I did not implement those changes.

Tammuz wrote:so we won't have to manually reset our bots to retreive the xp, sorry i'm being a little slow.
I will attempt to make it automatic.
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Postby Archanubis » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:00 pm

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As far as robot modes being removed, doesn't matter to me; if they stay, fine, if they go, I can use the extra XP elsewhere.

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Tammuz wrote:will the bots automatically lose bot modes and have the xp invested in them returned or will the bot modes just lose functionality.
Things are being set to the way they were before I came on board.

May I presume that statement does not apply to returning the players who have gone :MAX: and :PRED: to their previous factions?
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Postby Psychout » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:01 pm

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Postby Jeep? » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:01 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Jeep! wrote:Oh. Well, can we set the way-back-machine a little further and set no-recharge weapons to never miss so that noobs get raped, bugger the armour again so rank is useless, unfix repair so it doesn't work again, and remove tactics from the level calculations so we can go back to the days of lvl 1s with 10 avoid?
Cause that'd be super.
No. I did not implement those changes.


My point is, that stuff was broken before, and got fixed. Don't listen to people yammering about things not being perfect - it's going to be reset eventually anyway, and rather than scrapping things entirely, use this as a way of finding out where the bugs are and squishing them.

And are you sure you didn't fix armour?
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Postby Omega Sentinel » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:03 pm

Thunderscream wrote:May I presume that statement does not apply to returning the players who have gone :MAX: and :PRED: to their previous factions?
The 2 new factions will stay. That is why I am trying to funnel the people that want to be in them into them right now as quick as I can.

I am also designing a control panel for the HMW mods to manage faction members so it can be maintained in the future.

The 2 new factions work with only a few minor glitches that can be easily worked out. As far as I know they can stay.
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Postby Wingspan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:06 pm

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Could just the Computational and Bulk Robot Modes be disabled, rather than all?

Although they all provide an unbalancing factor (per tammuz's argument with which I agree) it is only these two which truly are a concern of having bugs (based on other threads / experience). So could we isolate their problem(s) and leave Assault / Melee / Recon since they are working as expected?
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Postby Omega Sentinel » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:59 pm

Jeep! wrote:And are you sure you didn't fix armour?
Maybe. I've changed so many numbers in those battle scripts over the last 9 months I honestly can't remember off the top of my head.
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Postby Jeep? » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:02 pm

Cuase they definately didn't do anything (apart from Iron) before I left. Then I came back and discovered that, amongst other things, rank actually helped for once. So I blame you! You added another stat to the list I have to worry about balancing! You're the reason I'm doing better now than I was before! Wait... Um... Maybe you're not. I take sole credit. Yes. Yes I do.
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Postby Tammuz » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:38 pm

armour was glyph, it was fixed along time ago, back when Pax was the place to be, so about the same time new orleans was wiped out
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Postby Rat Convoy » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:00 pm

Is there some reason every bit of progress and every cool thing we've gotten other than the two new factions needs to go? (I ask again - being ignored is fun!)
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Postby Shadow Dragon » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:56 pm

Rat Convoy wrote:Is there some reason every bit of progress and every cool thing we've gotten other than the two new factions needs to go? (I ask again - being ignored is fun!)


Yeah, to run the fun of the majority of the people. Seems like the problem with all of these things has been high-level only so why not just reset everyone to low levels?

Either that or just to piss off the guy actually currently doing the programming for the game, which sucks that people are actively trying to piss him off. We'll never get V2 at this rate and I wouldn't fault him in the slightest for stopping work on it if every change he makes gets endlessly argued about.
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