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[tech348]

I saw the 8pm showing and all I have to say is it was amazing.

[Rodimus_Prime13]

Grrr.... Mispelled Rodiumus. Have to talk to the admin about that.

My take on the movie was that it was pretty good. I was hoping to be blown away, but I have to settle for pretty good.

The character development for the Decepticons was next to nil.

Bumblebee's personality reminded me a bit more of Hot Rod. Wasn't bad. Just something that occured to me.

The S7 people where stupid. Let me say that again, this was done so poorly I couldn't stand it. I was hoping they would get stepped on. Was very dissapointed when they didn't.

The goofyness in some scenes got a little out of control. Particularly when they where bumbling around the yard.

I could live with the translations of Irohide and Ratchet. Jazz started out being what I would of felt was a good translation from the old Jazz to the modern hip-hop concept. But he was next to useless in combat, and the way he gets killed by megatron is pathetic. Don't get me wrong, Jazz should get his but kicked by megatron, but not torn in half with no effort. Jazz was a pretty good fighter from what I remember. And he went out like well... a b$tch. Seriously, it is sad that a human from the Military kicked more but then Jazz.

I have no problem with Starscream going from an F-15 to a YF-22.

Naming Brawl "Devastator" was a bad call.

Frenzy was alright. At least someone was there to represent the Soundwave group.

The two human characters where ok. I particularly liked when the girl decided to take an active part of the battle. I ended up liking her more then Bumblebee's buddy. They could of saved some points by naming them "Carly" and "Spike". Even if "Spike" was just his nickname.

Optimus was great.

Megatron was pretty good.

Overall, I hope that the sequels do better. This does happen sometimes.


Did anyone notice that Scorpinak is technically not dead? He escapes before being finished off.

[reanimate28]

SPOILERS: If your reading this, you know this whole friggin site has spoilers so if you don't like it, you may want to look in the upper right hand corner of your screen and click the X.

The action was AMAZING. Transformations for certain bots took a little too long in my opinion. Plot holes galore, wow were we shafted with all the prequal stuff. Michael Bay can't tell a love story to save his life. And alot of stuff has to be assumed, I take it, that happens in the movie.

Voices were really good in my opinion.

Why the HELL does Prime get his ASS KICKED SO BAD????

Skywarp-2's theory of a Decepticon base seems very possible with the outcome of the movie.

Oh and at the end. is that the Ark??

I was thinking the same thing about the the end when the dead Megs got sent to davie jones locker..I hope the decepts get an underwater base in the second movie..I loved that about the g1 cartoon. I really hope they do soundwave right too... although we did get to see ejections of scorps and frenzy from blackout and barricade I guess that must be a common trait that decepts have going for them...when the autobots were standing there deciding on the fate of Bumblebee it was really just like watching the G1 cartoon but in super ultra realistic fashion..when he said roll out in that seen people cheered it was really awesome... I am so glad they had all those G1 references it was so good to see that. Megs fight with Prime was a lil short and uneventful but I think that those models are extremely hard to animate and very very expensive I am sure we will see way more in the sequel OMG...another 2 years of this..... well at least we will really get to know eachother well here on these boards.....

[Rodimus_Prime13]

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[E107_Theta]

I came into the movie very skeptical, but... and as much as I hate to say this phrase... it was more than meets the eye.

As much as I hated some of the designs, they've grown on me, most of them. While the characters look different, their personalities are fairly true to the originals... at least Optimus and Megatron. As much as I hated Megatron's design at first, I'd say the movie Megs is even better than G1. He was freakin' badass. He was G1 Megs in a new, meaner body; his dialogue was really true to the character. Peter Cullen as Optimus was great as always, without him, this movie would not have worked.

The robots were generally great. All my hate for Frenzy's design turned into love as with Megatron, Frenzy was like something out of Star Wars and he was pretty hilarious. I still hate Starscream, he's didn't even have the original's personality. One of the biggest disappointments was the fact that Starscream didn't speak much, and the movie never really touched his conflict with Megatron. Starscream doesn't work unless he's fighting with Megatron, that's really what we remember him for.

While the robots were great, the same can't be said for the humans. The only good performance in the movie was from Shia LeBouf, who was a likable protagonist and was laugh-out-loud funny. Megan Fox couldn't act to save her life, but she was nice to look at, so I'm not complaining about her.

The rest of the humans were total utter dog ****, though. This is the major problem with the movie. The stuff with the soldiers, government agents and hackers was inane, stupid and just tedious to watch. The movie's major malfunction, is while you could be watching awesome robots beat the **** out of each other, you're stuck watching these idiots. I don't even know what purpose the computer hackers served. You could have totally cut them from the movie, and the movie would have been a lot better.

The movie got a little frustrating at times. You get a taste of awesome, insane action with robots just tearing each other apart, then you spend 15 minutes watching these military asswipes babble on about stuff I don't care about. The movie was 20 minutes too long... it would have been way better had they cut out the boring crap, and just focused on the action and comedy segments. This is a movie best seen on DVD, just so you can skip past the lame stuff and watch the awesome stuff.

My other big complaint: where's the theme song? It was VERY disappointing to see Transformers without any trace of the theme song. The classic sound effect and the G1 quotes were great, but man, you gotta have the transformers theme.

My opinion: worth seeing, for sure. The robots and fight scenes were badass, and the movie was really funny, especially scenes with Spike and Megan Fox, and Spike with his parents, but for god's sake, the stupid government scenes hurt the movie so much and made it a decent movie and not a great one. Seriously, come into Transformers an hour late, you won't miss much.

For Transformers 2: Focus more on Spike, his family, Bumblebee and the robots. Don't put the soldiers and the government agents in the sequel. And get bring back freakin' Megatron!

My rating: 7.7/10

[Rodimus_Prime13]

I don't mind the soldiers. What I dont like is that the soldiers did more in the battle then Jazz. Who was there long enough to get Bi%tched by Megatron.

[UltraMagnus 72927]

movie toys are great, but movie sucks.

[RatchetMD]

I just got back from seeing it and I loved it. The flick is a perfect combination on comedy and kick-ass action. I'd give it an 9/10.

My only complaint is the humans getting most of the screen time. I didn't really mind it most of the time because the humans were handled really well and were very likeable. During the Megatron-Prime fight it seriously bothered me because I was expecting a big fight between the two, but it kept going to the humans.

I thought the Transformers themselves were excellent. Their personalities really shine in the movie and any problems I had with the designs vanished once I saw them in motion.

[Warthog]

MOVIE ROCKS!

Saw it last night, oh my f'ing GOD!

Autobots:
-Bumblebee--couldnt have been better
-Optimus Prime--G1 Optimus risen from teh grave, perfecto
-Jazz--I got more character development from him than i expected; really sucked that he bought the big one
-Ratchet-Love Ratchet, including the personality being consumed by being a "doctor" but he needs more screentime
-Ironhide-A little over aggressive, and they downplayed his age (he was way older than Optimus in the original right?), but still kickass

Decepticons
-Megatron-not enough screen time but well done and i even liked the appearances, except for the teeth. Did you notice when he made the big cannon near the end of his fight with Optimus, he looked like Galvatron
-Barricade-perfect. Nothing else to say.
-Starscream--didnt get screamed at enough, didnt make enough mistakes, but we'll see that later in a sequel
-Devastator--change this guy's name in the DVD. Please. Good job with him, just change the name!!!!!
-Blackout--good job, but I wish he'd just been called Vortex. Jeez.
-Scorponok--Where's the robot mode? Where's the intelligence? A very awesome character, and great for this movie, but nothing like the original Scorponok. Of course, I'm cool with that.
Bonecrusher--Please bring him back, and all the Constructicons. Please.....

This movie rocked. Im watchign it again tonite. I'm buying the DVD. I clenched my seat and breathed heavy every time Optimus said something. When Blackout transformed to "the sound" I nearly fell out of my seat. It was AWSOME!

[Heavy B]

i loved the movie. bumbel bee pissing on goverment agents was hilarious. loved frenzy to. bonecrusher sucked. he was cool and all but was onscrean for a minute before prime offed him. and jazz's death was to down played. i watched him get riped in to but didn't know he died untill ratchet said so. iron hide and jazz wehere also funny for there respective reasons. infact im seeing it again in an hour so...LATER

[Brain Control]

I thought that the movie failed in a number of ways, but the single worst thing in it was Bumblebee's "urinating" on the federal agent. It was stupid and entirely out of character.

[Skowl]

I really can't believe how people are saying "the humans have too much screen time" and "Megatron is barely in the movie"

I was actually surprised at how little screen time the humans actually had! Considering how expensive the scenes with the TFs were, and how the human element is still crucial to the story, I think the human in this movie have about as small a role as you can give them, given the genre and all the other variables you have to work with when you make a movie like this.

And as for Megatron, he was - aside from Frenzy - the Decepticon with by far the most screen time. Barricade was in robot mode for maybe 2 minutes, Bonecrusher was on screen for like 40 seconds, Starscream basically does nothing, and you never really get to see Brawl in all his glory.

Megatron has a great, lenghty fight sequence with Prime. He has a decent amount of dialogue and he is on screen for the large part of the final act, unlike the other Decepticons who I barely even remember seeing in the movie.

[Galaxy_Convoy]

Beautifully done.

Remarkable.

It had me laughing, on the edge of my seat and sheading a tear for poor Jazz. This was just a master piece, even through the second time around. The third will come tomorrow and will no doubt be another mind blowing experience.

[Rally Racer]

Did anyone else have a headache after watching this? The movie totally assaulted my eyeballs.

Could have been a good thing, I guess.

[Transtopias Rodimus Prime]

11/10! Just got back. Perfectly done. As soon as the transforming started I forgave Bay for screwing everything up. My wife went with me...7 months pregnant. My Daughter loved it! She kept moving the whole time!
The fight scenes were the best! The Transformations during the fights were superb. All the details midfight were hard to follow, but not impossible. My wife couldn't keep up, but any transfan that dreams transformations can. You will be awed by how in depth the transformation are. I loved the fact that they put the Decepticons in the mariana trench. Jazz being killed sucked. Bumblebee kicking ass with no legs rocked. BB was the MVP and star. Prime was badass at points. His Energon Sword was a real nice touch. I'm sad I can't afford to see it again. Hopefully it will be at the dollar theatre before too long. It will be awesome to have on dvd to watch some things in slowmo. Can't wait for TF2 and the return of SS. The only thing I didn't like was no extras or sneak previews after the credits.

[Satanatron]

To me the designs didn't bother me one bit. Not even Optimus lips cause all I heard was Cullen and that made Prime to me.

Bumblebee was cool. Jazz death was a bit pointless.
Ratchet was alright and so is Ironhide.

Wonder what the hell happened to Scorponok and Barricade.

What I really disliked about the movie was sector 7 crap. That just got to go and I'm glad it did.

Hugo Weaving as Megatron was surprisingly well. I'm happy that in the games is Welker.

Starscream toying with the jets was just insane I loved it. It look so cocky the way he would take them out.

Bumblebee vs Barricade got me at edge of my seat. I was totally geeking out in that part.

[Metal Gear Solid Fan]

Voice of Optimus Prime:
"BUMBLBEE, STOP LUBRICATING THE HUMAN"!!!

LOL....ROFL

[D-340]

My wife went with me...7 months pregnant.

My wife's 8 months pregnant. All the people I went with kept telling her "Next explosion, he's poppin' out!" Funny stuff.

Just got back myself, I wanna see it again. Everything was excellent. Everything was were it should be. Even the story worked well. I don't see the complaint, really. If you go back and watch every TF series, this story runs the same formula as every other one:

Random MacGuffin is on Earth. Either naturally occuring, or shot into space from Cybertron.
War ravaged their home world, go to seek out said MacGuffin, war ends up on Earth.
Autobots win, Decepticons retreat.

Same as it's been for 23 years. The human element wasn't overplayed. Hell, Sam and Mikaela's(sp?) "love story" didn't even come across as really overpowering. Everything had it's place and knew to stay there.

All of the Autobots were great, especially BB and Prime. I'm normally not a BB fan, but WOW! Such a great character. I felt really bad for him being taken down by S7. And Prime was Prime, 'nuff said. Megatron was INCREDIBLE! For the first time since I was a kid, I was actually scared of him. Weaving's voice was done real well too. And the very little bit of interaction he and Starscream had was everything I expected.

My only gripes:

Not enough Starscream. And, chicken-legged gorilla and all, this was Starscream. For the little bit he was there, everything he did was SS: attacking from a distance, showing off in combat, groveling in front of Megs, but taking off when he was down. Definately nailed the character, just way under used.

Brawl/Devestator. They knew about this 3 weeks ago, why did they not fix it?

Brawl and Bonecrusher being under used. BC got like a minute. Brawl buys it in the city, which is the first and last time we see him. Bummer.

Visually, WOW! Stunning. that's all I gotta say.

That's it, awesome movie, hands down. And, yes, this IS Transformers. Gonna see it again in the theater. Getting the DVD when it's released. I loved it.

[Galavtron]

Totally enjoyed the movie but it did have it's flaws wish that Starscream had more screentome. Along with talking more than just his one line. Would have liked megatron to have shown up eariler in the film than where he did.

[Riotflea]

I really can't believe how people are saying "the humans have too much screen time" and "Megatron is barely in the movie"

I was actually surprised at how little screen time the humans actually had!

Just to clarify, we're talking about a new movie called "Transformers" that just came out in theaters.

Well, here's my review:

--Too much people story, crying about CGI budget is irrelevant.
--Cliche' everywhere, in that intentionally "stupid" and "wacky" acting kind of way.
--Absolutely preposterous, unrealistic ending.
--Crappy fights, merely dummied up with 800 million explosions.
--BAD ripping off of Independence Day.

[Autobot032]

I'll start with P&C first, then elaborate if need be.

Pros:

Acting: Top notch. Funny, touching, over the top (which is a good thing), and human. (Even from the robots themselves. Which is a major selling point.)

Visuals: Wow. The TFs were so realistic, it was insane. Trying to wrap my brain around it was just...I couldn't do it.

Characters:

Barricade: Freaky lookin' fella, with a hell of an attitude. One of the best new characters to come along. Made me love his figure version even more.

Blackout: ...TOTAL BAD ASS. (You don't f*ck with this guy and make it out unscathed. He simply pwns.)

Bonecrusher: Friggin' insane and loves every moment of it. You can't not love him either, he was one of the greats.

Brawl/Devastator: Just one massive machine of death. He didn't give a sh*t and that was what made him cool.

Bumblebee: The most human of the Autobots (with Prime a very, very close second.) Gentle as a summer breeze, yet deadly and accurate at a moment's notice. Great sense of humor (loved to f*ck with Sam...a lot.)

Frenzy: I don't care what anyone thinks, and they can complain about it all they want, but his selling point for me was....how adorable he was. He was cute as a button and equally deadly. That's partly what made him work, he was cute enough to get your attention, and that's all he needed to get the job done.

Ironhide: Pissy, pissy, pissy. Got the "old man" routine down just fine. His love for his weapons was a nice touch, and his initial interaction with the humans was nothing short of hilarious.

Jazz: He was a chuckleworthy character. "'Sup lil' bitches?" had me rollin'.

Lennox: An excellent portrayal. Human and knows it, but willing to stand up like he too, was made of metal. Strong, confident and with a sense of humor to boot.

Megatron: While his screen time was short, he DOMINATED the final act. He was absolutely incredible. Nothing short of WOW. He was humorous, violent, and pure evil. He just flat out worked.

Mikaela: To borrow a cheesy line from the film, there truly was more than meets the eye to this girl. She's not only beautiful, but intelligent, and she can kick some ass.

Prime: Stern, a little pushy, but kind (very), and even sweet. (His interaction with the kids was what got me misty eyed.)

Ratchet: Just what I thought he'd be...a no nonsense, but gentle country doctor. The kind we all want taking care of us.

Sam: Oh what Spike wishes he could've been. Spike was never good enough to even be the sh*t on Sam's shoes. Genuine, awkward, tough as nails, and a true hero.

Sam's parents: ...I so want to hang out with his family. His dad was one funny sonuvabitch, and his mom was just hardcore cool. "You're cheap, you know that?" "You hurt my dog, and I'll kick your ass!"

Scorponok: Creepy bastard, but he lived up to his hype and then some. So glad I bought his figure now...

Starscream: The same old, sneaky bastard he's always been. Do a little damage, run from the fight. Physically and personality wise, captured perfectly.

Dialog: While some may consider it childish or hollow or exaggerated, I found it to be spot on perfect for the material. Excellent one liners, memorable quotes, and all handled expertly and deftly by each of the actors.

Running Time: PERFECT. It wasn't too long, wasn't too short, and had enough oomph to drive it (and at 70 MPH no less) the entire time. Not once did I find myself bored or wishing for an exit. I just became more and more engrossed in it.

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Cons:

Character usage:

All of the TransFormers were underused. In fact, the entire cast (humans included) was underused. There was so much they could've done with the Sam/Mikaela issue and milked even more comedy out of it.

Ratchet got shafted, but none of them got shafted like Barricade, Brawl, and Bonecrusher. (Brawl was the biggest victim of this terrible faux pas) Hell, does anyone even know what the hell happened to Barricade? He just...disappeared!

Loose ends: As stated with Barricade, there were too many holes left open (which is good in a way, SEQUEL!) but the government cover up at the end was just too far out there. I mean, how the hell do you cover up that many humans dying, and the fact that 15-35 foot tall machines were smashing the sh*t out of themselves and the downtown of a major city? That's got to be one hell of a spin doctor. He's well worth his weight in gold if he can pull that one off. Dumping their bodies in the ocean? Whoopity friggin' doo. Starscream survived for sure, so what's to stop him from diving into the ocean, retrieving the parts, and rebuilding the army? Seriously...

Cut scenes: After the movie was over, all I could think of...right off the bat was "Wow. That friggin' rocked, but WTF?!" (NOTE: I might be incorrect in some of these, but I do know some were missing, and I watched intently)

1.) Glen at the computer "The killer robot is very annoying!" why would you cut that?!

2.) Lennox seeing and holding his baby for the first time, again...WHY?

3.) Starscream leaping into the air, tfing, and blowing Ratchet off his feet

4.) Fig's death, Lennox holding his hand as he fades away. (this was one of the better parts of the leaked script and it should've stayed in.)

5.) Megatron bitching at Prime for using the human language (it was showed even more, how much he hated us "insects")

etc...plenty of scenes cut, and they should've stayed in.

Camera work: Bay was the correct director for this, he did an excellent job...except with the shaky cam parts. You missed so much good stuff while trying to keep up with the jitters, not to mention...it was a tad nauseating.

Overall, the film was excellent. It was better than I expected, and well worth innumerable viewings, but quite a few things that could've been worked on and tweaked.

No jittery camera crap, more character development, and less of the Decepticons getting the shaft screenwise...it would've been flat out perfect. I kid you not, it would've become my favorite movie...period.

Starscream, while captured perfectly, was pathetically used. Could've been tremendous, yet they just had him sit on the sidelines, save for a few pieces of destruction.

Megatron didn't have enough screen time, however...his performance was so good, it was entirely forgivable. (Hugo Weaving btw...was absolutely the perfect choice. No offense to Welker, who is a childhood hero, but he just couldn't have evoked the same "WHOA!" factor that Weaving did.)

Bonecrusher was just a ridiculous fiasco. Getting his head lopped off without causing any tremendous damage was just...well...sad. Yeah, the way he tossed the cars and the bus explosion was captured nicely, plus the fact that he was a pain in the ass for Prime, but to die that quickly was a terrible misuse of him. Though I did love how his eyes popped out when he was punched. I chittered like a rabid spider monkey during that segment.

Barricade just disappears with no explanation, just...gone.

Brawl...I can't even find the words...his treatment in the movie (time, plus no defining scene) was absolutely despicable. Spending the time rendering him was a waste of money because the poor guy wasn't even there long enough to even really see. (I think I saw his face once, I kid you not...once.)

Blackout had his shining moment, so I can't really complain too much...

I didn't care for the foul language, or the "almost" instances of it.

The bitches line didn't bother me.
Frenzy dying with "Aw ****" had me chuckling.
The rest of the language didn't bother me either, except for when they tried to work f*ck in there. "Motherf..." and the like. Granted, they never actually said the word, but it wasn't necessary to either. That was just one element of the film that wasn't required to make it work. I'm sorry, I might be old fashioned, but it shouldn't even be a thought when making this film. Yes, kids have foul mouths these days and what not, but should we really be encouraging that? People would say "Well the violence should be your main concern". No. It was too outlandish and cartoony for the kids to believe, but to hear a good guy drop the f-bomb..."Well they said it, must be alright for me to do so as well." Call me a whiner, but it just wasn't needed.

All in all, it was an excellent movie going experience, and I can't wait to see it again. It had a nice ending with Prime's voice over, I loved that part, but the shaky cam has to go, and more character development.

I do recommend it, I do believe it'll make a convert out of those who don't give a damn initially, and I give it a solid 8.5 out of 10.

...and the TransFormers designs were nothing short of fantastic. They will completely wow you the moment you see them.

[KoH4711]

So, we finally managed to make it out before work tonight. All along, I've said my measure for this film was simple. Was I entertained, or not?

I was. The movie proved to be a lot of fun and, honestly, that's why I go to these things in the first place. It fell about along the lines I thought it would. It's not a particularly deep movie, and you can spend plenty of time nitpicking it... but you can do that with ANY movie. When you're in trouble is when you're nitpicking it WHILE it's playing. That didn't happen here.

SPOILERS to follow. Duh. =p

PROS:

o The CGI. I once read that if you point out that it's "really good CGI", it wasn't. The good stuff is when you DON'T think about it. The Transformers were characters, plain and simple. A good amount of credit goes to Bay's insistance to work with as much in the "real world" as possible. The Transformers lived for the duration of the movie, and there was not a moment where bad CGI took me out of it. Usually in CGI heavy films, I notice at least one bad green screen. Never did in Transformers. Also, the actors did a heck of a job making it all seem real, and reacting and interacting with it quite well.

o Sam and Mikaela. I actually really liked the development between them and, unlike a lot of people, I thought Megan Fox did a pretty good job with what she had. The fact that there's not even a kiss until the end of the movie was something I liked(I'm SO glad the kiss didn't happen before the chase at the end). And Shia proved he's the real deal. Some actors play the same character in every movie. Shia's are real distinct. I can hardly wait to see him in Indy 4.

o The Autobots. I liked all of them, and the parts were acted, between ILM and the voice actors, to give us little aspects of character each time. I wish there'd been a little more, especially with regards to one character, but I'll get back to that a little later. But I loved all the 'Bots. Special note from the Prime fanatic: Cullen will always be Optimus Prime, and he was tremendous.

o Megatron. I was real skeptical of him, but this may well be the most evil S.O.B. to ever carry the name. The chase with Sam was exceptionally well done, and "the flick" just really made the character.

o Frenzy. There will be a million avatars of Frenzy slamming his head against the computer terminal. He was a fun character.

o Banachek. A minor thing, but I'm a huge fan of Michael O'Neill, and he made Sector 7 legit. Again, more on that in a bit. But they did a great job of casting the smaller roles in this movie. Sam's mom also gets point as a total scene stealer. But O'Neill made Banachek likable in a short amount of time. On the other hand, the man has a knack at this sort of thing, so I'm not terribly surprised.

o The score. Steve Jablonsky did a tremendous job. I'm not sure the main themes are as memorable as the Pirates of the Caribbean score(the closest thing to the instantly recognizable John Williams scores in recent years), but it really added a lot to the movie. The music playing when the Autobots arrive is terrific.

o Avoiding the Cliche. Lennox talked about his wife and kid back home. And survived. How's that for novel? =p

CONS:

o Simmons. I'm not sure what Turturro was going for. Maybe he was trying to do an offbeat performance like Jack Sparrow? While he was funny much of the time, it also really killed Sector 7 as a credible threat to me. Banachek redeemed it somewhat, but it really didn't help matters with the movie.

o The Hacker Subplot. It's not so much that it was bad(hey, Rachael Taylor was gorgeous, and Anthony Anderson was entertaining), but it ultimately didn't have to be there. Decoding the signal didn't mean much, as right after they were taken to Sector 7 anyway. If they have plans for them in the sequel, that'd be one thing. But it took away from things.

o Jazz's death. Hey, I get why Jazz died. The recurring "No sacrifice, no victory" assured that. And I don't have a problem with it being Jazz, either. Ironhide, Ratchet, Prime and even 'Bee have died in various incarnations, so it was Jazz's turn in the barrel. But I wish he'd done more in the fight before losing to Megatron. He went out a soldier, never flinching, but it wouldn't had more impact if he'd been shown more. Then again, Prime does have a shard of a certain something, so who knows if this will stick?

o Rapid Motion Cam! With all the beautiful cinematography in the film, why does every battle have to have the camera moving like the operator's been on a four day bender with Everclear? Whatever it is, Bay's no the only one guilty of it. Spiderman 3 was far worse, and even some of the battles in Lord of the Rings pulled this, too.

All in all, it was a good movie. It could have benefited from another revision of the script to tighten it up, but it's difficult to walk out of this movie and not feel pretty stoked about it. If nothing else, one of my favorite characters was not killed by some annoying young punk who was told multiple times to stay out of it, and who winds up with a promotion instead of a court martial... but eh, that's just me. =p

[T Honk]

, but kind but the government cover up at the end was just too far out there. I mean, how the hell do you cover up that many humans dying, and the fact that 15-35 foot tall machines were smashing the sh*t out of themselves and the downtown of a major city?

Let me start with I loved the movie. Yeah more is needed with Starscream and Megs and a few other plot points but that is what sequals are for. Dont want another Spiderman 3 f up with too much/not enough going on. Everything else was jawdropping.

Anyways, the cover up bothered me alot at first for the same reasons, but then I thought about the computer virus that shut down all forms of communication and media. This would make it eye witness only testamony and maybe some poopy pictures if some guy was insane enought to wip out his camera phone in the middle of all that. The general populous would more likely believe the governments "terrorist attack with heavy assault vehicals" spin than some jackass on the news claiming he saw giant fu*king robots.
Just ask anyone who saw a UFO with a large group of people with them. They got witnesses. They got crappy pictures. I still dont believe in UFOs.

[Bender Prime]

I was going to go see the film a third time tonight but my stupid boss made me work late. Will have to see it on the weekend.

In my experience you pick up a lot more on second viewing on a film like this, it's kinda like films like Revenge of the Sith, you can't catch all the details the first time round.

[Autobot032]

, but kind but the government cover up at the end was just too far out there. I mean, how the hell do you cover up that many humans dying, and the fact that 15-35 foot tall machines were smashing the sh*t out of themselves and the downtown of a major city?

Let me start with I loved the movie. Yeah more is needed with Starscream and Megs and a few other plot points but that is what sequals are for. Dont want another Spiderman 3 f up with too much/not enough going on. Everything else was jawdropping.

Anyways, the cover up bothered me alot at first for the same reasons, but then I thought about the computer virus that shut down all forms of communication and media. This would make it eye witness only testamony and maybe some poopy pictures if some guy was insane enought to wip out his camera phone in the middle of all that. The general populous would more likely believe the governments "terrorist attack with heavy assault vehicals" spin than some jackass on the news claiming he saw giant fu*king robots.
Just ask anyone who saw a UFO with a large group of people with them. They got witnesses. They got crappy pictures. I still dont believe in UFOs.

Valid points, but how do you lock down an entire city?

1.) Freeway chase. (There's no way on Earth they could track down all the people on that freeway.)

2.) Prime/Megatron crashing into the building. (Those that did survive certainly would do their best to tell of their experience.)

3.) All the bystanders on the street caught in the crossfire. (Those people, perhaps you could shut them up, but there's so many of them.)

4.) Glen's a hacker. (If anyone can find a way to leak that kind of info, someone like him would do it.)

It might be tied up for a while (which is doubtful) but the public knows and the info's spreading like wildfire.

Besides, no amount of cover up or people talking will make a difference. As long as Prime and the boys remain in vehicle mode, no one's the wiser. (Although I think Sam's parents clearly know Bumblebee is living with them.)