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original sin wrote:Riddler>all Batvillains except the Joker

I know he is the probably among the tops, but Cat Woman, and Two face are above him I would say.

Personally, I'd like to see Clayface.

original sin wrote:




The resemblance is uncanny. It would fit perfectly in Nolan's darker movie style.

Never and I do mean NEVER go by that gay looking animated Riddler

I would rather go by the Batyman Animated instead

Christian Blae has said he would never want to be in another Batman movie if Robin is included

Wheeljack35 wrote:Never and I do mean NEVER go by that gay looking animated Riddler

I would rather go by the Batyman Animated instead

"Gay looking"? He actually looks a bit like a cross between TDK Joker and the Riddler.

Personally I believe that Riddler should only wear a suit. That's how he's depicted in recent comics, how he was in BTAS and the most logical thing for him to wear in a movie. Jim Carrey repeat would spoil the whole deal.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

original sin wrote:Riddler>all Batvillains except the Joker

I know he is the probably among the tops, but Cat Woman, and Two face are above him I would say.

Personally, I'd like to see Clayface.

Catwoman bores me to tears to be honest. I never saw the appeal

I'd still really love for Mad Hatter to make an appearance, but I know I'm just grasping at straws for that one

original sin wrote:Riddler>all Batvillains except the Joker

Onoz. I'm gonna have to slap you back down to earth, mister.

The following is a list of villains who are both a) better than the Riddler, and b) suitable for Nolan's quasi-realistic style:

Black Mask
Mad Hatter (no, really, think serial rapist with a fondness for kid's tales, with the paedophilic edge presented in "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth")
Bane (minus the Venom cocktail, just a brilliant tactical mind backed up with massive physique)
Harley Quinn (as a continuation of the Joker plot)
Catwoman (as long as it's not Angelina Jolie, that was a horrible rumour)

In regards to Robin, I could see maybe giving Dick an introduction, like say, have Bruce adopt him as a little kid, and leaving it at that. Maybe hint that one day he'll follow in Bruce's footsteps, but for now just leave him as an adopted son. Maybe eventualy introduce him as Nightwing rather than Robin. Or they could use Jason Todd and keep it real and shock audiances by blowing him up.

And I would love to see Nolan's version of Bane and Deadshot. Lady Shiva could maybe work to. My biggest beef with the Dark Knight was that they killed Two-Face. In my mind, after the Joker, he might just be Batman's best villian.

If robin does appear he should be shot in face as soon as he walks on screen.

Id love to see the Bane from Knightfall though, that would be brilliant, as long as they didnt just get some crap wrestler to play the part.

If he was to tank himself out a bit more, Brian Austin Green would be awesome as Bane.

original sin wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:

original sin wrote:Riddler>all Batvillains except the Joker

I know he is the probably among the tops, but Cat Woman, and Two face are above him I would say.

Personally, I'd like to see Clayface.

Catwoman bores me to tears to be honest. I never saw the appeal

It's the old screwed up good guy meets equally screwed up bad girl and while both want each other badly they want each other to become what the other is, (Batman wants Catwoman to be a hero and Catwoman wants Batman to be a villain) a LOT more.

IF done right Catwoman would be a great villain for an emotional wounded Batman (he lost Rachel and thinks that she was waiting for him when she really wasn't) to deal with a woman who really is his equal in every way except she's a bad girl with lot of emotional issues of her own.

Still doesn't sound appealing to me, then again most of DC bores me to tears

Jeep? wrote:Onoz. I'm gonna have to slap you back down to earth, mister.

The following is a list of villains who are both a) better than the Riddler, and b) suitable for Nolan's quasi-realistic style:

Black Mask
Mad Hatter (no, really, think serial rapist with a fondness for kid's tales, with the paedophilic edge presented in "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth")
Bane (minus the Venom cocktail, just a brilliant tactical mind backed up with massive physique)
Harley Quinn (as a continuation of the Joker plot)
Catwoman (as long as it's not Angelina Jolie, that was a horrible rumour)

And they all pale in comparison to the awesome, the mighty the one and only Mysterio!

Batman villains<Spider-Man villains.

Relatively surprised no-one wants robin. Not many of you read Batman then?

Shame on whoever said Nolan's films were darker. More realistic, certainly, but they're not as grim as the comics.

Dead Metal wrote:And they all pale in comparison to the awesome, the mighty the one and only Mysterio!

Batman villains<Spider-Man villains.

Purge this heresy!

I could go on about how Joker>everyone else, but I'm tired.

I could actually see Jason Todd as the Red Hood. Think about it. A crime orphan like Bruce, who adopts a "Rorschach-meets-Punisher" crime-fighting style, viewing Batman's no-killing policy as weak and stupid. Have Batman try to juggle this psycho and throw in Black Mask as a secondary, mob boss baddie, and you've got yourself a great movie. Oh, and Shia Lebeouf would work, but wouldn't be my first choice.

As soon as I saw it was in the Sun, i sighed in relief.

UltraPrimal wrote:"What is heavy forwards and not backwards?"

"When is a door not a door?"

"Why is six afraid of seven?"

"The more you take away, the larger it grows. What is it?"

"Tear one off and scratch my head, what once was red is black instead. What am I?"

For posterity's sake,

1. A Ton
2. When it is ajar
3. 'Cause 7 ate 9
4. A Negative number
5. A Match

I hate leaving open questions on a message board...

JaAm wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:And they all pale in comparison to the awesome, the mighty the one and only Mysterio!

Batman villains<Spider-Man villains.

Purge this heresy!

I could go on about how Joker>everyone else, but I'm tired.

Heresy?
Spider-Man villains are cooler and more interesting.
Mysterio is just a personal favourite as he's a bit of a B-Movie type guy who's in fact a big looser.
The real Villains are:
Green Goblin (I'm actually a little tired of him)
Venom (The real not the Scorpion one)
Carnage (He rules)
Doc Ock
The Kingpin
Kraven

I want a Batman/Spidey cross over where Carnage possesses The Joker. How freaking awesome would that be??

Make it an Elseworlds story and have Spidey have the Venom costume and Toxin can possess Batman

Symbiote over load!!!

original sin wrote:I want a Batman/Spidey cross over where Carnage possesses The Joker. How freaking awesome would that be??

Make it an Elseworlds story and have Spidey have the Venom costume and Toxin can possess Batman

Symbiote over load!!!

That I would so buy!
Carnage Joker
Blacksuite Spider-Man
And Toxin Batman would just be freaking hilarious together if the suits kept their own personality on top of the hosts.

Batman arguing with Toxin would be freaking amazing!!

Especially with Batman's no killing policy and Toxin's huge urge to slaughter everyone

Actually there was a crossover, and rather than posses him, Carnage got into an argument with Joker over killing, Joker wanting to do his standard, "Kill in a mysterious pattern for some ridiculous reason," while Carnage just wanted to murder every person he saw.

Also, going back to my idea, Rather than have Black Mask be deformed and into Saw-style torture, go back to his roots and make him actually wear a mask, and be a major mob boss. (He can sill have his jaw shot off, though.)

Matrix. wrote:Relatively surprised no-one wants robin. Not many of you read Batman then?

Yes. And Robin's always at best an embarassment, at worst a drag on the story. The character was created to draw in a younger audience, which is pretty much exactly the opposite direction the films are going in. And we mustn't forget the Great Unpleasantness:

No, sometimes Robin is a good character. I liked him in Dark Victory, and in the animated series. Besides, would you rather have Batgirl as a sidekick? Her greatest victory was over Killer Fraggin' Moth. Even I could beat Killer Moth.

I'd rather Batman didn't have a sidekick. As Christopher Nolan seems to feel the same way, I'm pretty happy.

Yeah, Batmas alone > Batman with anyone. The character doesn't work with a sidekick, he loses all of what makes him the Batman.

umm no just no no more batman and robin type movies pleash