The Energon Pub

Immortal Starscream wrote:the only one for me that is a hard pass (at least for now) is the netflix leader box. Ultra magnus was a cool paintjob and all, but we knew it was at least ultra magnus. most people wanted it for the "spoilers" which just ended up being some lines from the show printed on the box in cybertronian. some people were very let down by this.

To do the same thing again, only to not even know whats in the box just puts a sour taste in my mouth. I was a fan of blind box toys untill they started getting expensive, which I was adamantly against. so a $60 blind box? All kinds of NO.

though I am nagged by the notion of "what's in the box?" I'm sure it's a con.

the walmart listing does have some interesting tidbits. I am at work so I couldnt watch the livestream, so IDK if these were brought up there, but heres what walmart says about the contents:

Includes: 2 figures, compound, 9 accessories, and instructions.
Figure scale: 7 inches
Ages 8 and up
Warning: Choking Hazard - Small parts. Not for children under 3 years.
CONTAINS WHEAT.
COMPOUND NET WT. 5 OZ (142g)
Not intended to be eaten.
Non-toxic. Conforms to ASTM D-4236.

I'm pretty sure it's Astrotrain because Optimus is there as a voyager. If it's Doubledealer, even without the cassettes minions but with a Battlemaster, it would be much more interesting.

As for that Optimus, it will be the ER almost leader price (10$CAN less) without the trailer but with two(?) Battlemasters or one Micromaster. Not too bad when we think about it.

Immortal Starscream wrote:just realized the new spiler box image on walmart does flash a decepticon symbol on top, so decepticon confirmed. magnus had an autobot on top. and magnus himself on the side.


a thought has occurred to me. we do have a lot of hints pointing to a specific g1 character getting a new toy (despite having one recently that had mixed feelings atached toit) between now and the kingdom line. Would make sense for him to be a decepticon leader class, and while earthrise would make more sense for him, we do basically now have earthrise figs in the siege netflix line. And since he hasnt been anounced yet, as previously stated it would make sense to keep him secret untill actually being announced in the main line.

"Megatron? Is that you?"

there's a hint!

It's implied in the trailer that Shockwave has to experiment on somebody to make the theory Megatron can reboot all the Autobots into Decepticons. It could be that Magnus was the experiment if you go by the 2nd trailer.

Speculation, but there's stuff out there to support it. That and there are 34 steps in a Magnus transformation.

So let me get this straight - the Siege netflix version of Optimus, which has a screen model that’s based on the Siege figure down to the 5mm ports, is a seemingly unchanged ER Optimus without the trailer?

Considering that both Netflix Prime and Soundwave are earth modes, though, I wonder if they’re actually preview figures for the ER show and not for Siege. Or maybe we’ll see their earth modes at the end of Siege.

Anyway, I’ll probably pick up the Bumblebee, although the partsforming is disappointing. Wasn’t there an upgrade kit/piece for Cliffjumper that allows you to transform it without removing the back?

Edit: I also checked the description for the magnus spoiler box, and it says he transforms in 26 steps.

Glad to have the seeker 2 pk preordered without having to constantly check for meaningless "You're items are back in stock..." emails, or hounding employees to find boxes in back of a store.
Can't believe I ever tried to fool myself that I may hold-off on this set... Even though I was tempted by ER Smokescreen... I'll pass on him now that I just dropped another $65.

I'm going to pass on all of the reveals unless the spoiler figure is Galvatron. But even then that'll depend on how he looks. Don't you all think there's a chance it's him considering Cyclonus is on the way?
It'll be really lame & a big disappointment if it's Shockwave.

Ironhide looks good, but no way do I want that 2 pack.
I guess the only one I'm considering is Soundwave... And what's surprising is that I may get him for the alt mode!
I won't ever take my MP to my workplace, so I think it would be awesome to have this new version as a tape recorder on a shelf behind my desk.
I can admit it's a small nit-pick, but I really dislike the yellow eyes of the bot mode... Although it's really good overall.
If I see him in a store, I could see giving in. Won't surprise me if that happens, just like the exclusive cell painted versions of Prime and Megatron were readily available in store.

Other than that, bring on Thrust!!

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Anyway, I’ll probably pick up the Bumblebee, although the partsforming is disappointing. Wasn’t there an upgrade kit/piece for Cliffjumper that allows you to transform it without removing the back?

Edit: I also checked the description for the magnus spoiler box, and it says he transforms in 26 steps.

Yes, 26 steps to put the armor on, but the truck and the small robot = 34. He's going to come in robot mode.

Also, there is a kit to stop the partsforming for Cliffjumper. I forget who made it, but I saw it on youtube.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I can admit it's a small nit-pick, but I really dislike the yellow eyes of the bot mode... Although it's really good overall.
If I see him in a store, I could see giving in. Won't surprise me if that happens, just like the exclusive cell painted versions of Prime and Megatron were readily available in store.

Other than that, bring on Thrust!!

Toy accuracy FTW.

Doubting the mystery leader will be galvatron as he technically doesnt have a vehicle mode (unless they go against the grain and give him one). Evil galxy upgrade is my guess or astro train with a carriage of some sort.
Wave 2 has buckled the trend with bee and elita so it could be an all new leader.

blackeyedprime wrote:Doubting the mystery leader will be galvatron as he technically doesnt have a vehicle mode (unless they go against the grain and give him one). Evil galxy upgrade is my guess or astro train with a carriage of some sort.
Wave 2 has buckled the trend with bee and elita so it could be an all new leader.

But I also think it's possible that they're always going to refer to an alt mode as "vehicle mode" no matter what...
Definitely could be wrong about that... Maybe that's more just part of my hope that it is in fact Galvatron.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if any future release of Galvatron has some sort of vehicle alt mode instead of a cannon alt mode.
Imo, talk about a figure who is deserving of a proper update!!

Sowndwave76 wrote:Glad to have the seeker 2 pk preordered without having to constantly check for meaningless "You're items are back in stock..." emails, or hounding employees to find boxes in back of a store.
Can't believe I ever tried to fool myself that I may hold-off on this set... Even though I was tempted by ER Smokescreen... I'll pass on him now that I just dropped another $65.

I'm going to pass on all of the reveals unless the spoiler figure is Galvatron. But even then that'll depend on how he looks. Don't you all think there's a chance it's him considering Cyclonus is on the way?
It'll be really lame & a big disappointment if it's Shockwave.

Ironhide looks good, but no way do I want that 2 pack.
I guess the only one I'm considering is Soundwave... And what's surprising is that I may get him for the alt mode!
I won't ever take my MP to my workplace, so I think it would be awesome to have this new version as a tape recorder on a shelf behind my desk.
I can admit it's a small nit-pick, but I really dislike the yellow eyes of the bot mode... Although it's really good overall.
If I see him in a store, I could see giving in. Won't surprise me if that happens, just like the exclusive cell painted versions of Prime and Megatron were readily available in store.

Other than that, bring on Thrust!!

theres no telling. the general feeling is that it is shockwave, or decepticon ultra magnus. both would be insulting, though ultra magnus probably more so. but the transformation steps dont add up for either, unless you fudge the numbers.

also I think the cybertronian on the front of the box reads fangtron giza.... so.. Nemesis Prime?

Immortal Starscream wrote:
theres no telling. the general feeling is that it is shockwave, or decepticon ultra magnus. both would be insulting, though ultra magnus probably more so. but the transformation steps dont add up for either, unless you fudge the numbers.

also I think the cybertronian on the front of the box reads fangtron giza.... so.. Nemesis Prime?

I'm more of a fan of Decepticons (which has really helped streamline my collecting habits),
so if this ends up being Nemesis Prime, I would be interested!
Good guess based on the text... I'm hoping that something with giza and "...tron" could be referring to Galvatron.
Seriously, it's going be a slap in the face if it's Magnus or Shockwave.

Ok, hear me out...

Is it just me or is Netflix Soundwave just Siege Soundwave doing the fan-mode transformation with some adjusted molding to make the fan-mode look better?

Awesome, the gamble of preordering Rotorstorm last time and assuming the head would be fixed has paid off! They made too big a deal of the head in the product description for them to not fix it, I think, but I get some people were skeptical.

Dirge and Ramjet are already preordered, as well as Hubcap, and Exhaust and Greasepit will be on their way shortly, I presume.

Bee is more Cliffjumper-like than I was expecting after Warden kept saying they wouldn't share a mold, but I was never intending to get Bee and I don't have CJ anyway, so that doesn't matter to me. What does matter is that that mold looks like it'll make a pretty killer Bug Bite.

The only thing I actually disliked about this is no Tetrajet Sunstorm, everything else is cool or just not for me (or is a mystery Decepticon in a big box that I cannot trust).

EDIT: Upon going back and looking at Pulse, Greasepit has gone from being listed as in stock to being a pre-order for the 4th of next month?

Why do I have a feeling Soundwave and Bumblebee are going to be a pain in the a$% to find? Totally called Arcee repaint for Elita-1. I might pick her up. Already preordered The coneheads and Ironhide on Amazon. This line is going to ruin me lol

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Ok, hear me out...

Thunderblast.jpg

ER Elita1.jpg

I'm sorry, what?

Soundwave looks good but I don't like the cassettes hope the masterpiece cassettes fit in his chest . Ironhide I am nervous about becasue of no Ratchet . Already pre orederd the Dirge and Ramjet . I don't know why we did not see Thrust though . Elita 1 I think I ll get her but not the Arcee I have a better one . Getting Bee .

aronjlove wrote:


Is it just me or is Netflix Soundwave just Siege Soundwave doing the fan-mode transformation with some adjusted molding to make the fan-mode look better?

It's not you.

When I look at Siege Soundwave, the robot mode needs no adjust other than the possible removal of the jet boosters on his back, and I can live with those.

But Soundwave is one of those guys I have a sentimental attachment to - the original is my very first Transformer along with Buzzsaw of course, and actually - WTH didn't they remold Laserbeak into Buzzsaw?!

Bounti76 wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Ok, hear me out...

Thunderblast.jpg

ER Elita1.jpg

I'm sorry, what?

I more meant repainting Elita-1 into Chromia. So long as they don't make her an exclusive that costs a gorillion dollars.

Wouldnt mind a Waspinator repaint out of Bee but it's doubtful with bugbite.

Bombshell0001 wrote:Soundwave looks good but I don't like the cassettes hope the masterpiece cassettes fit in his chest .

They won't. He's a retool of the SIEGE figure, which can only hold the Micromaster "cassettes" and then only barely.

Bombshell0001 wrote:Ironhide I am nervous about becasue of no Ratchet.

I'm sure they'll reveal Ratchet soon enough. He'll probably be the mainline release this time around.

Bombshell0001 wrote:Already pre orederd the Dirge and Ramjet. I don't know why we did not see Thrust though. Elita 1 I think I ll get her but not the Arcee I have a better one. Getting Bee.

I'm the opposite. I might get Arcee but unless someone makes an Ariel conversion kit I'm not getting this joke of an Elita. As for why we didn't see Thrust? That's simple - because he's not an exclusive.

Every single figure in this round of reveals? Is an exclusive of some sort. Whether it's the Mall-Wart-exclusive Netflix line, the SELECTS line, or the Scamazon-exclusive two-packs (I hope Hasbro can be persuaded to give those packs proper releases, especially the Conheads).

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Ok, hear me out...

Thunderblast.jpg

ER Elita1.jpg

I'm sorry, what?

I more meant repainting Elita-1 into Chromia. So long as they don't make her an exclusive that costs a gorillion dollars.

I don't think that's very likely to happen, personally. Siege Chromia is already as close to her G1 cartoon altmode as we're likely to get, especially when viewed from the side. But you never know... maybe they'll remold the shell and give Chromia an earth style mode.

Not G1 Chromia. Fires_Of_Inferno is being a Jafanboy and insisting on referring to Cybertron Thunderblast by her Galaxy Force name.

The Soundwave preorder may have sold out, but I'm not worried. I have a hard time thinking that the Netflix subline will be the only way to get tapedeck Soundwave. And even if it is the elusive Hotlink is sitting at my local Walmart, making me feel real dumb for ebaying him.

Between the Amazon preorders and ehaust it seems like September and October will be two pricy months, geez.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Not G1 Chromia. Fires_Of_Inferno is being a Jafanboy and insisting on referring to Cybertron Thunderblast by her Galaxy Force name.

Wait... what? I could have sworn that I typed Thunderblast! I've never called her Chromia before! What the hell just happened?

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Not G1 Chromia. Fires_Of_Inferno is being a Jafanboy and insisting on referring to Cybertron Thunderblast by her Galaxy Force name.

Wait... what? I could have sworn that I typed Thunderblast! I've never called her Chromia before! What the hell just happened?

Ah. Maybe Chromia being her GF name combined with there being a Chromia on Elita's squad messed with your brain then.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Not G1 Chromia. Fires_Of_Inferno is being a Jafanboy and insisting on referring to Cybertron Thunderblast by her Galaxy Force name.

Wait... what? I could have sworn that I typed Thunderblast! I've never called her Chromia before! What the hell just happened?

Ah. Maybe Chromia being her GF name combined with there being a Chromia on Elita's squad messed with your brain then.

YOU HAVE FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME, BRAIN