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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Windsweeper » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:37 pm

Nothing worse than a repaint that's the same character. They could have given us any of the following:

Delta Magnus
Dragstrip or Fracture
Scorch, Swindle or Detritus
Clampdown, Deep Cover, Tiger Tracks, REV or Firecracker.

As much as I love the Siege Seeker mold and I will pick up Hotlink, I don't like his burnt colour scheme. Along with the Rainmakers, his colour scheme is disappointing. At least the Rainmakers had the excuse of cartoon accuracy which would have been great in Hotlink's case.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:47 pm

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Windsweeper wrote:Nothing worse than a repaint that's the same character. They could have given us any of the following:

Delta Magnus
Dragstrip or Fracture
Scorch, Swindle or Detritus
Clampdown, Deep Cover, Tiger Tracks, REV or Firecracker.

As much as I love the Siege Seeker mold and I will pick up Hotlink, I don't like his burnt colour scheme. Along with the Rainmakers, his colour scheme is disappointing. At least the Rainmakers had the excuse of cartoon accuracy which would have been great in Hotlink's case.

Those characters would have only worked if they were in the Netflix series. Mirage being repainted to reflect going undercover with the cons is no different then other repaints in the series history.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:53 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Windsweeper wrote:Nothing worse than a repaint that's the same character. They could have given us any of the following:

Delta Magnus
Dragstrip or Fracture
Scorch, Swindle or Detritus
Clampdown, Deep Cover, Tiger Tracks, REV or Firecracker.

As much as I love the Siege Seeker mold and I will pick up Hotlink, I don't like his burnt colour scheme. Along with the Rainmakers, his colour scheme is disappointing. At least the Rainmakers had the excuse of cartoon accuracy which would have been great in Hotlink's case.

Those characters would have only worked if they were in the Netflix series. Mirage being repainted to reflect going undercover with the cons is no different then other repaints in the series history.


Regardless, aside from the "battle damage" most feel like re-releases. Mirage, Scrapface and Hotlink don't, in fact they may have been designed to offset just that.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:25 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Windsweeper wrote:Nothing worse than a repaint that's the same character. They could have given us any of the following:

Delta Magnus
Dragstrip or Fracture
Scorch, Swindle or Detritus
Clampdown, Deep Cover, Tiger Tracks, REV or Firecracker.

As much as I love the Siege Seeker mold and I will pick up Hotlink, I don't like his burnt colour scheme. Along with the Rainmakers, his colour scheme is disappointing. At least the Rainmakers had the excuse of cartoon accuracy which would have been great in Hotlink's case.

Those characters would have only worked if they were in the Netflix series. Mirage being repainted to reflect going undercover with the cons is no different then other repaints in the series history.


Regardless, aside from the "battle damage" most feel like re-releases. Mirage, Scrapface and Hotlink don't, in fact they may have been designed to offset just that.

They're kinda supposed to be rereleases, though. Getting characters from the show back onto store shelves when the Netflix show comes out (of course events have mucked that up some, but that was the intent).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:25 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:34 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:They're kinda supposed to be rereleases, though. Getting characters from the show back onto store shelves when the Netflix show comes out (of course events have mucked that up some, but that was the intent).


But why tho?
4 of them are wave 1 toys that have been clogging shelves even to this day being Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Megatron. Chromia is also basically the exact same. This will also be the FOURTH time this Megs mold is being released (although it's the best one). They are way too similar to their previous release making them truly worth it only for the completist or the one who managed to completely miss the Siege line.

My only true regret is getting a trio of camera guys will be absurdly expensive and hard to get.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:42 pm

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They are probably there to get the attention of people watching the show (hasbro will be thinking that store shelves will be full of Earthrise)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:10 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:They are probably there to get the attention of people watching the show (hasbro will be thinking that store shelves will be full of Earthrise)


One thing is sure though. The store shelves will never be full of those Siege Netflix sets. At least, at my local Walmart. #-o
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:10 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:They're kinda supposed to be rereleases, though. Getting characters from the show back onto store shelves when the Netflix show comes out (of course events have mucked that up some, but that was the intent).


But why tho?
4 of them are wave 1 toys that have been clogging shelves even to this day being Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Megatron. Chromia is also basically the exact same. This will also be the FOURTH time this Megs mold is being released (although it's the best one). They are way too similar to their previous release making them truly worth it only for the completist or the one who managed to completely miss the Siege line.

My only true regret is getting a trio of camera guys will be absurdly expensive and hard to get.


I think that's exactly it. I'm betting Hasbro's expecting a significant chunk of the people who watch the show will be the type of people who watched Transformers as a kid but haven't really paid much attention to it in a while, and who might collect figures, so when the G1-ish Netflix show comes out, they'll go out wanting to buy toys for it.

Do I think that will actually end up being true, given how poorly Hasbro's marketing it so far? No, not at all, but that is what I'm betting Hasbro's logic is.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:19 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:They're kinda supposed to be rereleases, though. Getting characters from the show back onto store shelves when the Netflix show comes out (of course events have mucked that up some, but that was the intent).


But why tho?
4 of them are wave 1 toys that have been clogging shelves even to this day being Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Megatron. Chromia is also basically the exact same. This will also be the FOURTH time this Megs mold is being released (although it's the best one). They are way too similar to their previous release making them truly worth it only for the completist or the one who managed to completely miss the Siege line.

My only true regret is getting a trio of camera guys will be absurdly expensive and hard to get.


I think that's exactly it. I'm betting Hasbro's expecting a significant chunk of the people who watch the show will be the type of people who watched Transformers as a kid but haven't really paid much attention to it in a while, and who might collect figures, so when the G1-ish Netflix show comes out, they'll go out wanting to buy toys for it.

Do I think that will actually end up being true, given how poorly Hasbro's marketing it so far? No, not at all, but that is what I think Hasbro's logic is.


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I'm pretty sure you nailed it. As a child in the 1980's I loved the original Transformers show and my childhood toys were only G1 Optimus Prime, Defensor, and Apeface. None of them survived my childhood obviously. My family was poor and it's a miracle I managed to get an Atari 2600 and a Sega Master. As a teen, I completely gave up on toys to be only into video games.

Only at 30-ish years old, when the first Bay movie came out in 2007 did my interest in Transformers was renewed. And only well after ROTF did I started collecting Transformers in 2010. The Bay movies brought me back.

So I can see that the Netflix series could do the same to many adult fans. That is, if the Netflix series is good and well done compared to the horrible Machinima series. The Siege line is pretty much gone from store shelves by now so those Netflix boxes make perfect sense.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:27 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Doesn't deluge have more green on him? Mirage works though because it's his con disguise.


Which Deluge? The G1 Aquaspeeder?


Or the G2 Color Changer (I'm assuming him)?


Looks more like blue.


The one that appeared in IDW during All Hail Megatron so the Color Changer, I forgot that the Aquaspeeder was a separate character.

He's not perfect but there isn't really much else to use in place for him.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:36 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:But isn't scrapface a Decepticon?

Guess I had a total mental block. I'm sure I knew that, I did order him, but for some reason I still keep thinking he's an Autobot. Probably because we've already got this mold in four different colors and it's hard to believe they'd give it the Seeker treatment and do it a fifth time and still be a Decepticon. His name doesn't really fit the others either. Spyglass, Spectro, Viewfinder, Refractor, and Scrapface.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:41 am

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I have 2 of Refraktor, once I get Scrapface he'll be the center of the camera. Kinda break up the boring and monotonous purple.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:58 am

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@Emerje Well, obviously Scrapface is not meant to be a part of the Reflector team.

However, his name does still fit the camera theme. Ever heard of a scrapbook?

Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally spotted the Netflix figures in the wild, and I gotta say I was not impressed. Hotlink seemed dull, the paint is just not sharp. I thought about getting it, but in-hand it was a turn off.
Maybe he'd be better if they'd made purple - you know, his actual main color - the base plastic color like sensible people would do. I'm emailing them to ask what the hell they were thinking.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Same with Megatron. The paintjob just didn't seem right for him.
How come? Just going by photos the silver (which cartoon-based Megatron toys should be when budget permits, since that's what his animation model is trying to approximate) looks way better than the original release's dull gray.

Rodimus Prime wrote:The only things I wanted out of the packs are the Battle masters.
Another difference between you and me, then. Aside from Orange Lionizer I honestly have little interest in them considering how SIEGE cheaped out on the gun Battlemasters.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:06 am

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But that's just it, Megatron's paint is not silver. It's more like shiny charcoal. He looks like a highly polished shoe, instead of something metallic.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:11 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:@Emerje Well, obviously Scrapface is not meant to be a part of the Reflector team.

Of course, still the same mold nonetheless, just strange seeing the mold without a camera themed name.

However, his name does still fit the camera theme. Ever heard of a scrapbook?

If that was intentional (I really doubt it) then that's some BotBots level naming.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:52 am

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I think it was intended, Emerje. I mean, I can't think why else they'd give him that name.
I'd still like to see a brown-and-black redeco named "Brownie" (assuming they could get away with that trademark-wise).

Rodimus Prime wrote:But that's just it, Megatron's paint is not silver. It's more like shiny charcoal. He looks like a highly polished shoe, instead of something metallic.
Ahhh. It looked silver in the photos. Sigh...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:08 am

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Not the one I saw at the store. It's darker than silver, it's more like gun metal gray.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:56 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Not the one I saw at the store. It's darker than silver, it's more like gun metal gray.


I think its just how we interpret colours. I personally feel it's silver.
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Postby LinaNui » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:26 pm

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So can someone who found the Netflix figures share some pictures of the bar-codes so that I can scan them at my local stores?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:46 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Not the one I saw at the store. It's darker than silver, it's more like gun metal gray.


I think its just how we interpret colours. I personally feel it's silver.

Looks like the same treatment that SS KSI Boss got, definitely something I would call silver, if not a bit tarnished, which is perfect. The difference between regular Siege Megatron and Netflix Megatron is similar to the difference between SS DotM Megatron and battle damage Megatron.

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Netflix Transformers Series Ultra Magnus and Deluxes Found at US Retail

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:03 pm

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The Walmart exclusive Netflix Transformers Series Spoiler leader pack which includes Rung, some energon cubes in putty and a crispier version of Siege leader Ultra Magnus has been found at Walmart by The Real Magnus P.I. (what an apropos username). It was specifically found in Utah and the price was just a few pennies shy of $60.

The deluxes were also found. This particular sighting come from the Queen City, Cincinnati, and was posted on the forums of Allspark.com.

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Postby Seibertron » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:19 pm

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Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:25 pm

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A jolly rancher flavored Rung :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:28 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Have we found out what's the spoiler in the Ultra Magnus box?

It's Rung in spoilerific colors, IIRC.
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