The Energon Pub

[aronjlove]

Finally found a Ross with a Siege Springer. They also had two Siege Screamers and a few of the Cyberverse Hot Rod and Sharkticons pack.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Has anyone recreated this scene with SIEGE Apeface and PotP Rampage?

[Rodimus Prime]

Has anyone recreated this scene with SIEGE Apeface and PotP Rampage?

Every time I see my Apeface on the shelf, this is the panel I think of! Every time! However, don't own Predaking in any form, so I can't. Does Apeface's arm detach easily?

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Has anyone recreated this scene with SIEGE Apeface and PotP Rampage?

Every time I see my Apeface on the shelf, this is the panel I think of! Every time! However, don't own Predaking in any form, so I can't. Does Apeface's arm detach easily?

His ape shoulders are on ball joints.

[Rodimus Prime]

Has anyone recreated this scene with SIEGE Apeface and PotP Rampage?

Every time I see my Apeface on the shelf, this is the panel I think of! Every time! However, don't own Predaking in any form, so I can't. Does Apeface's arm detach easily?

His ape shoulders are on ball joints.

Good to know. I have yet to open most of my smaller Siege and ER collection, (Horrorcons included) I'm making myself wait until the entire trilogy is finished and I will open ALL the figures I got in one day. It will be a glorious day when I will have no outside disturbances from anyone. Just me and my toys alone in a room. Like it used to be before I was forced to become an adult.

[Starseeker]

Has anyone recreated this scene with SIEGE Apeface and PotP Rampage?

This thought crossed my mind too haha! I don't own Predaking either though. But maybe someday!

In other Siege fun, I played around with Soundblaster and Spectro/Spyglass/Viewfinder and made a little base mode.

[bacem]

Messing with astrotrain accessories and created launch ststion mode.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Well, it already was one. But you've given it a nice support crane.

That's a pretty cool base, Starseeker!


I think Wipeout/Necro looks good on Apeface

[bacem]

HAMMER TIME!

[Rodimus Prime]

Holy crap you actually found a fun use for that unnecessary stuff! Good job! I can't help but think it might be better for Jetfire to wield it, though...

[ZeroWolf]

I'm getting GaoGaiGar vibes from that hammer, love it!

[-Kanrabat-]

HAMMER TIME!

Now that's awesome and OVERKILL. I like that!

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Reiterate statement that the tender [i]is[i] necessary, because it makes Astrotrain's locomotive mode complete finally. After 34 years of it being the engine equivalent of these:



That hammer looks awesome. And I'll bet you it'll show up in the Legends manga soon

[bacem]

That hammer looks awesome. And I'll bet you it'll show up in the Legends manga soon

When it does, just remember you saw it here first.

[Sabrblade]

That hammer looks awesome. And I'll bet you it'll show up in the Legends manga soon

The Legends manga died with the epliogue to the Big Powered set.

[Rodimus Prime]

Reiterate statement that the tender [i]is[i] necessary, because it makes Astrotrain's locomotive mode complete finally. After 34 years of it being the engine equivalent of these:

Did he have it in the cartoon or the animated movie?

Your comparison to Fire Convoy is inaccurate, since Fire Convoy was depicted with the back end of the truck in the cartoon. Unlike Astrotrain.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Reiterate statement that the tender [i]is[i] necessary, because it makes Astrotrain's locomotive mode complete finally. After 34 years of it being the engine equivalent of these:

Did he have it in the cartoon or the animated movie?

Your comparison to Fire Convoy is inaccurate, since Fire Convoy was depicted with the back end of the truck in the cartoon. Unlike Astrotrain.

Fire Convoy does look incomplete without the back half, though he did disconnect from it as part of an impromptu ram attack once in the cartoon.

And Zelda, there are steam locomotives without tenders around, instead carrying all fuel and water on board; they're referred to as Tank Engines.

*hears the old Thomas tune*

Anyway, those are usually limited to shorter lines or a rail yard that don't require much fuel and water.

[Sabrblade]

And Zelda, there are steam locomotives without tenders around, instead carrying all fuel and water on board; they're referred to as Tank Engines.

*hears the old Thomas tune*

Anyway, those are usually limited to shorter lines or a rail yard that don't require much fuel and water.

The thing is, Astrotrain isn't a tank engine. His G1 design is based on a JNR Class D51 steam locomotive, which is a tender engine. Meaning his design was always missing a vital component back when the original 1985 mold was produced.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

And Zelda, there are steam locomotives without tenders around, instead carrying all fuel and water on board; they're referred to as Tank Engines.

*hears the old Thomas tune*

Anyway, those are usually limited to shorter lines or a rail yard that don't require much fuel and water.

The thing is, Astrotrain isn't a tank engine. His G1 design is based on a JNR Class D51 steam locomotive, which is a tender engine. Meaning his design was always missing a vital component back when the original 1985 mold was produced.

Then the Micromaster D-Go is guilty of that too.

[Sabrblade]

And Zelda, there are steam locomotives without tenders around, instead carrying all fuel and water on board; they're referred to as Tank Engines.

*hears the old Thomas tune*

Anyway, those are usually limited to shorter lines or a rail yard that don't require much fuel and water.

The thing is, Astrotrain isn't a tank engine. His G1 design is based on a JNR Class D51 steam locomotive, which is a tender engine. Meaning his design was always missing a vital component back when the original 1985 mold was produced.

Then the Micromaster D-Go is guilty of that too.

And GoBots Loco.

[King Kuuga]

The coal car is still a separate car from engine. As an alien robot, Astrotrain was presumably capable of self-propulsion and would only have adopted a coal car if someone at the station hooked one up to him.

[Sabrblade]

The coal car is still a separate car from engine. As an alien robot, Astrotrain was presumably capable of self-propulsion and would only have adopted a coal car if someone at the station hooked one up to him.

Half a train still makes for a poor disguise.

[ZeroWolf]

The coal car is still a separate car from engine. As an alien robot, Astrotrain was presumably capable of self-propulsion and would only have adopted a coal car if someone at the station hooked one up to him.

Half a train still makes for a poor disguise.

Indeed, though I wonder how Takara would have handled the tender if they'd included it on the original toy? Would it have been completely fixed to him? (think cw Ultra Magnus where you can't disconnect the cab) or would it have become a fold out gun platform?

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Reiterate statement that the tender is necessary, because it makes Astrotrain's locomotive mode complete finally. After 34 years of it being the engine equivalent of these:
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Did he have it in the cartoon or the animated movie?

No, because the toy didn't include one and the animation was too cheap and too toy-bound to correct that. But whether it was in the cartoon or not is, in this case, irrelevant.

Your comparison to Fire Convoy is inaccurate, since Fire Convoy was depicted with the back end of the truck in the cartoon. Unlike Astrotrain.

No, it isn't. That doesn't. Slagging. Matter.
Because depicted with a tender or not, Astrotrain's locomotive mode is just as blatantly incomplete without one as RiD and Cybertron Optimus Prime's truck modes are without the back half. Or as incomplete as G1 Optimus Prime's would be if you removed his fuel tanks.
Steam locomotives need a source of fuel and water - no ifs, ands, or buts. And for Astrotrain's loco mode, that would obviously be a tender because there's no sign of a bunker or water tank anywhere on the main body. Without that tender, he's only a partial locomotive. No two ways about it.

The coal car is still a separate car from engine. As an alien robot, Astrotrain was presumably capable of self-propulsion and would only have adopted a coal car if someone at the station hooked one up to him.

Half a train still makes for a poor disguise.

EXACTLY. The tender - which in almost all cases carries not only the fuel but also the water, so don't just call it a "coal car," Kuuga - is technically separate, but it's essential.
So going without it makes for a poor, incomplete disguise. Especially when its absence exposes the rocket bells on the back of the cab. With no tender his loco mode is only a couple rungs more disguised than this:

...Well, maybe not quite that bad, but still pretty blatant.

Indeed, though I wonder how Takara would have handled the tender if they'd included it on the original toy? Would it have been completely fixed to him? (think cw Ultra Magnus where you can't disconnect the cab) or would it have become a fold out gun platform?

I think it would have detached and either become a launch pad or gun platform. In fact, I'm pretty sure the designer actually originally planned on a detachable tender. Because two of the G1 toy's shuttle engines are simple pegs rather than proper engine bells. Pegs that have no apparent function.

[Emerje]

The coal car is still a separate car from engine. As an alien robot, Astrotrain was presumably capable of self-propulsion and would only have adopted a coal car if someone at the station hooked one up to him.

Half a train still makes for a poor disguise.

Only if you really, really know your trains. Most people wouldn't even notice, a train is a train.

I'd be much more alarmed seeing this thing on the road.


Emerje