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Postby Magnus' Mate » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:37 am

Nemesis Primal wrote:Uh, Counterpunch? follow the link... Sunstreaker was suppposed to be gay in the Dreamwave comics. Even if it never really came across, the idea still did get out there. Then again, considering how few female transformers there are, this line of conversation could go somewhere WEIRD.

Speaking of weird... Kiss Players was not meant to be seen, much less understood, by anyone who was not born and raised in Japan, and that's why it comes across so creepy when we look at it.


This confirms just how utterly rubbish Dreamwave actually was. How the heck do you have a Transformer be gay!?! Gay is a form of sexuality, and um...the Transformers don't have that. They're not male and female for goodness sake so they can't be straight or gay, or bi, or anything else.

Oh, unless you go by the truly awful cartoon continuity (which Dreamwave in its infinite stupidity chose to emulate to appease the fanboys). Transformers should not have sexuality, so the idea of Sunstreaker as gay is ludicrous. Dreamwave really was a hack company, wasn't it? No matter what faults the IDW series has, it completely obliterates old Brad Mick and Chris wots-his-face's bad fan-fiction. They deserved not to be paid for that rubbish! :grin:

The Marvel comic continuity (UK-US) rules all. They even found a half-way decent explanation as to why Arcee exists. And no, it wasn't to give Hot Rod and Springer something to do! :?
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Postby Bonger » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:41 am

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Having a Transformer tattoo is awesome. However, that isn't the kind of tattoo most women find awesome. Now the other way around is a different story.



The clothes dont make the man-If u rock fire ahead-i've had my tf tats licked :grin: -But an over weight computer geek dosent need anything extra against him.

Which brings me onto,

Nerds should not have nerdy hobbies (like toy collecting), the need to get out more and they make me look bad by assosiation :P


LMAO. Thats such the biggest truth. OK, conferssion time: I collect TFs so that I can be nerdy by association. :?
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Postby Starscream227 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:48 am

Unicron is a poor MacGuffin device. Though he makes for great shelf support.
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Postby Dead Metal » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:01 am

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Postby Ballistic90 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:21 am

G1Blaster wrote:The new TF game based on the movie is going to blow; minus Cullen and Welker doing voices. Sure it's a sandbox type game where you can basically do what you want but I don't exactly remember Autobots running around randomly destroying a human city.

I don't remember hearing anything forcing you to randomly destroy a human city. I'm really certain that it's a choice. Check out the trailer, it's going to be a great game.

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Postby GrimSqueaker » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:23 am

Ballistic90 wrote:
G1Blaster wrote:The new TF game based on the movie is going to blow; minus Cullen and Welker doing voices. Sure it's a sandbox type game where you can basically do what you want but I don't exactly remember Autobots running around randomly destroying a human city.

I don't remember hearing anything forcing you to randomly destroy a human city. I'm really certain that it's a choice. Check out the trailer, it's going to be a great game.

Besides, the G1 characters are going to be unlockable.


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Postby Bonger » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:11 am

GrimSqueaker wrote:
Ballistic90 wrote:
G1Blaster wrote:The new TF game based on the movie is going to blow; minus Cullen and Welker doing voices. Sure it's a sandbox type game where you can basically do what you want but I don't exactly remember Autobots running around randomly destroying a human city.

I don't remember hearing anything forcing you to randomly destroy a human city. I'm really certain that it's a choice. Check out the trailer, it's going to be a great game.

Besides, the G1 characters are going to be unlockable.


Attack of the Autobots-soem people need to watch more g1


Great point!
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Postby GrimSqueaker » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:22 am

Bonger wrote:
GrimSqueaker wrote:
Ballistic90 wrote:
G1Blaster wrote:The new TF game based on the movie is going to blow; minus Cullen and Welker doing voices. Sure it's a sandbox type game where you can basically do what you want but I don't exactly remember Autobots running around randomly destroying a human city.

I don't remember hearing anything forcing you to randomly destroy a human city. I'm really certain that it's a choice. Check out the trailer, it's going to be a great game.

Besides, the G1 characters are going to be unlockable.


Attack of the Autobots-soem people need to watch more g1


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Postby Judge Deliberata » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:38 am

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The game looks like it is going to kick massive amounts of ass, but I'd say that we're going to be able to unlock all of two to four G1 guys in that game, at most, so my hopes aren't up for a smorgasbord; that's just the way game development works; it's a difficult process and the simplest solution is often what is implemented. We'll get Optimus & Megatron for certain, maybe Starscream, Ironhide or Ratchet if we're lucky. They'll go with familiar faces, and it probably won't be anyone who isn't a movie character already present.
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Postby skywarp-2 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:47 am

Beast Wars Megatron had an ascot!! his voice was like that of a gay man, or a really bad British accent!! he barely used his fusion canon, and was purple.. you do the math!!

Sunstreaker was a pretty boy, and should never be portrayed as gay.. just more in love with himself, and I believe its all due to how cool the earth modes are, especially his!!

This is a Toy discussion thread, shouldn't this have gone into the general discussion??
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Postby Duke of Luns » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:48 am

Judge Deliberata wrote:The game looks like it is going to kick massive amounts of ass, but I'd say that we're going to be able to unlock all of two to four G1 guys in that game, at most, so my hopes aren't up for a smorgasbord; that's just the way game development works; it's a difficult process and the simplest solution is often what is implemented. We'll get Optimus & Megatron for certain, maybe Starscream, Ironhide or Ratchet if we're lucky. They'll go with familiar faces, and it probably won't be anyone who isn't a movie character already present.


That's more than the Armada game had.

Another truth: As awsome as the Armada game really truly is, there's so much more that honestly could have been done with it. More characters, bosses, levels, no problem. But hey, what they put in is gold, and it is the best Transformer game yet. And it went above and beyond the call of duty when it came to extras.
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Postby GrimSqueaker » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:17 am

skywarp-2 wrote:Beast Wars Megatron had an ascot!! his voice was like that of a gay man, or a really bad British accent!! he barely used his fusion canon, and was purple.. you do the math!!


BW megs rocks! He was accually evil, purple is the color of royality and he didnt need to fight in person when he could send lackys to die for him
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Postby skywarp-2 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:26 am

GrimSqueaker wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:Beast Wars Megatron had an ascot!! his voice was like that of a gay man, or a really bad British accent!! he barely used his fusion canon, and was purple.. you do the math!!


BW megs rocks! He was accually evil, purple is the color of royality and he didnt need to fight in person when he could send lackys to die for him



so he was a politician versus a war general like G-1 Megatron...
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Postby Counterpunch » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:29 am

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zodconvoy wrote:Oh, yeah? Vanity freakin' Smurf.


Exactly.

His name was 'Vanity', not 'RimJob'.

skywarp-2 wrote:This is a Toy discussion thread, shouldn't this have gone into the general discussion??


1. TFGD = Thread death.
2. I like this forum better.
3. You are 8 pages and like 10 replies late in getting to this point.
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Postby Lapse Of Reason » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:45 am

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Judge Deliberata wrote:The game looks like it is going to kick massive amounts of ass, but I'd say that we're going to be able to unlock all of two to four G1 guys in that game, at most, so my hopes aren't up for a smorgasbord; that's just the way game development works; it's a difficult process and the simplest solution is often what is implemented. We'll get Optimus & Megatron for certain, maybe Starscream, Ironhide or Ratchet if we're lucky. They'll go with familiar faces, and it probably won't be anyone who isn't a movie character already present.


So far it's Starscream, Prime, and Jazz.
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Postby Counterpunch » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:50 am

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skywarp-2 wrote:
GrimSqueaker wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:Beast Wars Megatron had an ascot!! his voice was like that of a gay man, or a really bad British accent!! he barely used his fusion canon, and was purple.. you do the math!!


BW megs rocks! He was accually evil, purple is the color of royality and he didnt need to fight in person when he could send lackys to die for him



so he was a politician versus a war general like G-1 Megatron...


Beast Wars Megatron send Optimus Primal in a rocket, into space, to his death.

Beast Wars Megatron conquers Cybertron and enslaves the entire planet.

Megatron built a big laser on a hill one time. :?



On topic: Since Armada, the "horrible rip-off" repaints of molds have been every bit superior to their original releases.
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Postby Ballistic90 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:57 am

BW Megatron nearly killed the original Optimus Prime, too.
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Postby Ballistic90 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:59 am

GrimSqueaker wrote:
Ballistic90 wrote:
G1Blaster wrote:The new TF game based on the movie is going to blow; minus Cullen and Welker doing voices. Sure it's a sandbox type game where you can basically do what you want but I don't exactly remember Autobots running around randomly destroying a human city.

I don't remember hearing anything forcing you to randomly destroy a human city. I'm really certain that it's a choice. Check out the trailer, it's going to be a great game.

Besides, the G1 characters are going to be unlockable.


Attack of the Autobots-soem people need to watch more g1

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Postby Bonger » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:31 am

Wait up there. G1 Megs conquered Cybertron too. He also got to kill Prime, Magnus, and pretty much every G1 autobot.

That is not too shabby.
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Postby GrimSqueaker » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:02 am

Ballistic90 wrote:
GrimSqueaker wrote:
Ballistic90 wrote:
G1Blaster wrote:The new TF game based on the movie is going to blow; minus Cullen and Welker doing voices. Sure it's a sandbox type game where you can basically do what you want but I don't exactly remember Autobots running around randomly destroying a human city.

I don't remember hearing anything forcing you to randomly destroy a human city. I'm really certain that it's a choice. Check out the trailer, it's going to be a great game.

Besides, the G1 characters are going to be unlockable.


Attack of the Autobots-soem people need to watch more g1

So what, you're Megatron and you poisoned the Autobot's energon supply?



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Postby Dagon » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:35 am

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So I just got out of looking at the new Botcon seekers pictures and reading everyone bitch about how they're exclusives. I didn't order the set nor am I going to Botcon, but damnation, people need to stop complaining about the FACT that the other seekers are exclusives and not general release figures. Geez. I didn't get them, do I like them? Yes. Would I love a set of them? Yes.
But seriously, do we really need to keep going around and around about how we all would have bought 9 of them at retail or how Hasbro is run by godless fornicators because these won't be at Target????
Even if we ignore that overworn path of complaining, we still have people saying "Dirge looks great, but his eyes are supposed to be yellow!! ARGGGHHH!!!" or some such other crap. You really can't please anyone. Here's an idea, since Hasbro keeps 'screwing everything up', let's petition them not to release the Classics seekers at retail, or to release the Seacons again, but let's all sign a petition asking them to stop producing these toys altogether, so that way we'll have nothing to bitch insessantly about. That way we'll all be happy, finally.
Oh wait, then we'll all cry that there are no new Transformers available! Damn it!!!! As hard as I try to please everyone, I can't, and I have no connection to Hasbro whatsoever.
I think it's official: we are the bitchiest fandom alive. I've heard legend about the cranky nature of Star Wars diehards, but hell, from the movie designs to the Botcon figures to the movie toys, there has been little to no positive input around here in a while.
Yeah, I wish I had the money to grab the Botcon set, or even better to go to Botcon so I could spend more money and grab all the goodies. But I can't. So rather than piss and moan, I'm just gonna try and score them later on if I can. If I can't, well, I just have to keep in mind that not everyone can have everything. People train their whole lives and then someone still gets last place at the Olympics you know.

Once I was sad because I had no Botcon Seekers, and then I met a man who had no Transformers at all, nor the means or retail outlet to ever obtain any.
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Postby The Mad Asshatter » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:37 am

Dagon wrote:Once I was sad because I had no Botcon Seekers, and then I met a man who had no Transformers at all, nor the means or retail outlet to ever obtain any.


You met Ghandi?
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Postby GrimSqueaker » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:52 am

The Mad Asshatter wrote:
Dagon wrote:Once I was sad because I had no Botcon Seekers, and then I met a man who had no Transformers at all, nor the means or retail outlet to ever obtain any.


You met Ghandi?


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Postby The Mad Asshatter » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:54 am

GrimSqueaker wrote:
The Mad Asshatter wrote:
Dagon wrote:Once I was sad because I had no Botcon Seekers, and then I met a man who had no Transformers at all, nor the means or retail outlet to ever obtain any.


You met Ghandi?


Yes

Really?

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Postby Zombie Starscream » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:15 am

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Ohh another one!

1. Transformers tattoos are NOT cool. They might be cool looking now, but not when you are 70-80 yrs old and have a lot of wrinkles.

2. Sometimes it gets ridiculous when we have a flame war over a TOY, and people are flinging insults back at each other like a chimpanzee flings poo.

3. When people claim a figure is "fragile," sometimes I wonder if they are manhandling it instead. Mp-03 is fragile, but only to those who are used to treating their toys roughly.

4. G1 is the best!!!!!! Hardcore Geewhunner Oh Yeah!!

5. I like the movie designs, but I also think the G1 designs could have worked if they took away the blockyness.

6. Skywarp is cool, sometimes even more so than Starscream.


7.Starscream is a Giant Winged Rat. He's one of those creatures that tends to make a mess on statues and multiplies like crazy. Plus he's filled with disease.

8. Thundercracker is a closet(sp?) good/nice guy, though sadly he's too afraid of Megatron for this to be expressed much.
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