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Postby G1 Blaster » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:57 am

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Emperor Galvatron wrote:Grimlock is overrated. The only reason he is considered a badass is because he turns into a dinosaur and carries a sword. Optimus Prime is a better character.


QTF.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Optimus Prime is one of the most bland characters ever. Ultra Magnus and Rodimus are much better characters by far because of their flawed nature.


I should drag you out to the street and shoot you.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:The Matrix is a stupid plot device, as is Unicron and Primus. Transfomer gods?! Ugh.


Urge to shoot you... rising.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:G1 Megatron was a dumbass. As was Stascream.

Soundwave has no personality. He's a boot-licking toadie. Deal.


The only truth in that is the Starscream comment. The other comments just urge more shootings of you.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Takara does not make better toys than Hasbro. Or vice versa. They're the same damned toys from the same damned factories. The same sweat shop children make them all.


Again, we agree.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:TF's should not be made any larger than Voyager size. Any larger and they are drastically out of scale and do not lend themselves to play well either. Too bulky and hard to handle.


Or is it because you can't afford them?

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Headmasters, Targetmasters, Powermasters, and Pretenders rock. We need more. Packs of minicons that just turn into weapons would rule so much. Like the old GI Joe weapon packs you could buy years ago.


Except for the Mini-Con part, I disagree. Those four things sucked ass.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Transformers the Movie killed TFs. Think about it.


No, the movie killed Optimus, Screamer and a bunch of b-listers. The third season and Beast Wars were both good.
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Postby GobotFool » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:38 am

I'm new here, so I thought this would be a good place to introduce myself.

Gobots are awsome for what they are. You can creat an army of them with pocket change and they have better vehicle modes than any of the minicons, Microbots or minibots. Period.

I love overwelmingly complex transformations. If they made movie toys where you needed tweezers to manipulate the thousands of panels required for the transformation process I'd so be there.

Classics jetfire is a stupid attempt to fuse the old macross mold and the G1 cartoon look. It is not awsome looking, the way the arms pretty much hang off the side is just lazy. It is not cooler looking than a yamato 1/48 valkyrie or even the classic 1/55 jetfire mold.

I'd rather screw a wall socket than Arcee. (also this whole arcee is not hot trend is just people hoping on the bandwagon, BUT! it's still pretty fun. :grin: )

Beast wars is the best tranformers cartoon out there. The g1 cartoon is only cool because of nostalgia.

And the movie designs are pretty cool. What the hell did you want? Giant robots that looked like they were made out of plastic bricks?

Arguing for 11 pages about pet peeves regarding a toyline is a nerdy passtime, on the other hand, its still pretty damn fun.

A roth IRA is a better investment than AFA graded g1 transformers.
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Postby Bonger » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:42 am

GobotFool wrote:
A roth IRA is a better investment than AFA graded g1 transformers.


Haha, well said. I freaking hate when I'm asked if I am buying something, or keeping it in box as an investment. NO, NO and NO.

Hell, I wonder if the MISB "investors" even have their collections insured.

I have a theory that all these people "investing" in TFs are just using it as an excuse so that they can buy as many expensive toys as they can find without any feelings of guilt. ;-)
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Postby G1 Blaster » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:48 am

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I have some of my Mega Man figures still in the box but that's because I simply have no where to stand them so I've hung them up on the wall.
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Postby GobotFool » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:49 am

Well in fairness, I do have some MISB G1s. But I do it mostly because I enjoy having rare items, not because I'm using them as investments.
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Postby Bonger » Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:05 am

Oh, nothing against MISB. I have tons. Some G1s that I do not want to open, and tons of newer stuff that I just have no space for. So it's easier for packing them away to just leave them in box till I have the space.

However, they are by no means being held to pay for a beach house when i'm 55. :lol:
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Postby Counterpunch » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:14 am

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GobotFool wrote:I'm new here, so I thought this would be a good place to introduce myself.


You realize the irony inherent in introducing yourself to the TF fandom in a purely bitching thread? :grin:

Arguing for 11 pages about pet peeves regarding a toyline is a nerdy passtime, on the other hand, its still pretty damn fun.


You're black.[/Pot]

A roth IRA is a better investment than AFA graded g1 transformers.


Yep.

After seeing the new repaints for TF movie toys (the G1 inspired designs...), I've decided that I'm tired of buying the 20,000 alteration of the same character.

Not that I won't buy it.

I'm just tired of it.
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Postby skywarp-2 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:18 am

Minicons that transform into Transformer weapons are ther dumbest idea I have ever witnessed ina toy line.. it just is a rediculous premise all together.. Megatron from G-1 would be appauled!!!
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Postby Counterpunch » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:20 am

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skywarp-2 wrote:Minicons that transform into Transformer weapons are ther dumbest idea I have ever witnessed ina toy line.. it just is a rediculous premise all together.. Megatron from G-1 would be appauled!!!


How the F' can you begin to justify that statement?
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Postby GobotFool » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:37 am

Counterpunch wrote:You realize the irony inherent in introducing yourself to the TF fandom in a purely bitching thread? :grin:


I'm not sure about ironic. Indeed, I'd say its perfectly fitting. :grin:



Counterpunch wrote: You're black.[/Pot]


huh? :???:
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Postby Counterpunch » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:48 am

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GobotFool wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:You realize the irony inherent in introducing yourself to the TF fandom in a purely bitching thread? :grin:


I'm not sure about ironic. Indeed, I'd say its perfectly fitting. :grin:



Counterpunch wrote: You're black.[/Pot]


huh? :???:


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Postby Zombie Starscream » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:15 am

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Another one :grin:

1.Minicons suck. Period.

2.Beast Wars is a tad overrated. Without G1 there would be no precious Beast Wars.

3.I hate the time travel idea in Beast Wars. If it was simply the Tf creatures that were around 4-5 million years ago crashing onto an unknown planet, instead of TRAVELING BACK in time and then crashing into that planet, the show wouldn't be as odious.

4.I make my own continuity. I don't follow what goes in the shows, simply because I just don't like everything that got set in the shows. I don't like any of the shows that came after G1 seasons 1 & 2 and the movie. I like some of the ideas in the later shows, but not the shows themselves.

5.Not all toys are created equal. I don't know why some people will get stuff just because it has a Tf name on it. Clearly some toys are actual crap. But some folks will say, "I don't like it, but it is Transformers, so I'll get it anyway."

6.You can do other stuff with your Tfs besides pose them and stand them on shelves. Sometimes my Mp Starscream will hold a pencil for me so I don't have to store it somewhere. Tfs can even hold your rings and jewelry for you. Wouldn't you have a Swindle hold your gold ring in his hand? Or you can dress them up. Wouldn't you love to dress up a Transformer? I would. :grin:
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Postby zodconvoy » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:55 am

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Zombie Starscream wrote:Or you can dress them up. Wouldn't you love to dress up a Transformer? I would. :grin:


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Postby Brakethrough » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:12 pm

Minicons!

1- better than headmasters, targetmasters (there were some of each kind in fact, and they were better), powermasters, cyber keys and minibots.

2- Should be made into many, many more targetmaster-type figures.

3- are often more posable than many, many G1 bricks.

ALSO

This new cartoon, while highly stylised, will almost certainly be better animated and more engaging than everything since Beast Machines.
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Postby skywarp-2 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:54 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:Minicons that transform into Transformer weapons are ther dumbest idea I have ever witnessed ina toy line.. it just is a rediculous premise all together.. Megatron from G-1 would be appauled!!!


How the F' can you begin to justify that statement?


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Postby G1 Blaster » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:00 pm

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Zombie Starscream wrote:Another one :grin:

1.Minicons suck. Period.


Liar. These littles guys are some damned awesome.

Zombie Starscream wrote:Or you can dress them up. Wouldn't you love to dress up a Transformer? I would. :grin:


That comment is going to give me nightmares.
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Postby skywarp-2 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:34 am

Unpopular Opinion...


Arcee from Hasbro sucks ass!!! the only true Arcee to date that i have ever seen is that expensive ass kitbash that we have seen on the web before..

this is the mold that Hasbro should fork out cash to get and Mass produce..that motor cycle fembot is stupid compared to this!!!!


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Postby GobotFool » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:55 am

Counterpunch wrote: You're black.[/Pot]
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Wholly guilty as charged, I thought the whole toung in cheek tone of that statment was made clear with the, "but it's still pretty damn fun" part of the statement ;)
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Postby G1 Blaster » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:58 am

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skywarp-2 wrote:Unpopular Opinion...


Arcee from Hasbro sucks ass!!! the only true Arcee to date that i have ever seen is that expensive ass kitbash that we have seen on the web before..

this is the mold that Hasbro should fork out cash to get and Mass produce..that motor cycle fembot is stupid compared to this!!!!


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I have always wanted one of those. :sad:
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Postby skywarp-2 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:11 am

G1Blaster wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:Unpopular Opinion...


Arcee from Hasbro sucks ass!!! the only true Arcee to date that i have ever seen is that expensive ass kitbash that we have seen on the web before..

this is the mold that Hasbro should fork out cash to get and Mass produce..that motor cycle fembot is stupid compared to this!!!!


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I have always wanted one of those. :sad:


Wow your "sig" image and this bot mold look almost like twins!!!

Hasbro fork over the money Now!!! or Takara GIVE US AN ARCEE!!!
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Postby Counterpunch » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:36 am

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GobotFool wrote:Wholly guilty as charged, I thought the whole toung in cheek tone of that statment was made clear with the, "but it's still pretty damn fun" part of the statement ;)


It's cool, if I didn't give you a hard time, people would accuse me of selling out. 8)
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Postby Zombie Starscream » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:57 pm

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That Arcee's alright, she needs more colored detailing though. The way she looks right now it looks like she is made out of some molded white and pink gummy candy.
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Re: Unpopular Transformers Opinions Volume 1: aka The War Within

Postby Brain Control » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:17 pm

Counterpunch wrote:1. Arcee is not Hot in any way shape or form. Metal vaginas are not cool.

2. RiD was a great show, with a great plot, and it appealed just as well to kids as it should to collectors.

3. Armada Megatron was more bad-ass than G1 Megatron. His plots actually work.

4. Armada/Energon/Cybertron/Classics is a superior group of toys than G1. I said it. It's true. Stop living in denial. :grin:


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Postby Brain Control » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:26 pm

Fang Wolf wrote:A GUN CANNOT SHOOT BY ITSELF.


A gun that is actually a sentient alien robot made of hyper-advanced technology can shoot by itself if it feels like it. Transformers is science fiction.
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