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News Credits: 1 · by **Windracer** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:38 pm

Oh wow.

Being a Maximal is going to be fun, indeed. :grin:

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:42 pm

Psychout wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Goribus wrote:So the Decepticons don't get this alt anymore: ? Does that mean that the other Final alt lists aren't final?

They are now that I've trimmed them down to 280. they were over by a couple

Is there any chance we could swap it for this one please?

I never really considered Movie Arcee as a relevant 'con alt in the first place and the superbike does look way cooler.

Sorry, but I placed Arcee in the Autobots class first, then as a con as a secondary. Moving her to the max/preds would take her out of the bots/cons too.

Sorry.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:44 pm

Mkall wrote:
Psychout wrote:
Mkall wrote:
Goribus wrote:So the Decepticons don't get this alt anymore: ? Does that mean that the other Final alt lists aren't final?

They are now that I've trimmed them down to 280. they were over by a couple

Is there any chance we could swap it for this one please?

I never really considered Movie Arcee as a relevant 'con alt in the first place and the superbike does look way cooler.

Sorry, but I placed Arcee in the Autobots class first, then as a con as a secondary. Moving her to the max/preds would take her out of the bots/cons too.

Sorry.

And we still didnt get the toaster!

I kid, its still a great set, thanks boss. :-p

News Credits: 14 · by **Jetfire Masta** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:48 pm

quetzalcoatl wrote:you want the zoid mechanical animal alts? then go autobot! Deceptacons already get some of the best zoid alts (trex beserk fuhrer) so don't try taking our command wolves!

But the Autobots are a bunch of newbs

Those Zoids alts are damn cool though. I could never get around to using alts that I'm already familiar with (Pokemon for example), but Zoids and that Dragoon Booster alt are damn cool.

Hey Mkall, looks like you're almost done and only have the Preds left. It looks like the last edit was done today, but I see none of my requests. Perhaps you missed them because they were the last post of one of the pages. Hope the Preds can get some of them

News Credits: 2 · by **GreenLantern of Cybertron** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:56 pm

Shouldn't dragons have Fireblast?
It could be the reason why they have their own alt class, after all they are living flying fire cannons.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:57 pm

GreenLantern of Cybertron wrote:Shouldn't dragons have Fireblast?
It could be the reason why they have their own alt class, after all they are living flying fire cannons.

*Throws a cloack over GL*

Down Thunderscream. Don't hurt the innocent.

by **Knives** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:58 pm

I guess I can take one last stab at suggesting this alt.(

) for the Maximals. Please, please consider this one. :PRAY:

It really is the most wanted on my request list.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:04 pm

GreenLantern of Cybertron wrote:Shouldn't dragons have Fireblast?
It could be the reason why they have their own alt class, after all they are living flying fire cannons.

Fireblast is a poor name for that tactic it describes. Basically it is shooting from a ships/bigger structures turrets.

Maybe a new tactic, "Flamethrower" or something like that could be what dragons need (or a weapon that has that ability)

At the tactics side, I'm missing the tactics that I can only descibe as "vampiric skill" meaning that if you hit the enemy, you will be repaired -> see Ratbats ability

News Credits: 3 · by **Archanubis** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:06 pm

I still say dragons don't need their own alt class...

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:30 pm

Burn wrote:
raphaelprime wrote:
Burn wrote:Don't be fooled by pale imitations, accept only originals.

And by that statement im guessing your secretly telling folks to go Autobot since their the original deal

Decepticons actually.

But we're so good we don't need to advertise. Our body odor speaks for it's self. I just thought i'd do the Predacons a favour.

By at least 1 canon, The cons pulled from the bots, so you are KOs.

(yeah, we could start throwing around the other 12 billion canons out there for G1, but let's save the board the pain, shall we?)

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:42 pm

Knives wrote:I guess I can take one last stab at suggesting this alt.() for the Maximals. Please, please consider this one. It really is the most wanted on my request list.

I know, but its been classified as a walking vehicle, something that the maximals/predacons don't have at this time.

It's staying where it is. Sorry

by **Rat Convoy** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:14 pm

Two little nitpicks on the Maximal list... Why do the Maxies have the Displacer Beast, a Chaotic Evil monster from D&D, under opportunistic land animal? Even if you do leave it with the Maximals, it ought to go in a category with both Avoid and Stealth, cause being hard to hit's kind of the point of a Displacer Beast. And also, I'd like to repeat my request for another ape (yeah, I know the list is supposed to be final but maybe you missed it, and I really don't think the tactics for nimble land animal fit Primal at all)... The tactics for Tough Land Animal would fit BM Optimus Primal to a tee.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:32 pm

There are now 280 alts for all sides. Aside from a few small changes I may make, I am no longer going to entertain requests.

I realize that some of you aren't too happy with how I've done things, and while I wish I could appease you all, I simply can't. I apologize to those who think I've dropped the ball, but I've done things to what I believe is the best overall for the factions and the game. If things don't work out the way I envision I'll do my best to fix things.

There are other ideas being discussed that may change the whole layout, but this is the closest thing we have to show you guys now.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:49 pm

Deadboy wrote:Two little nitpicks on the Maximal list... Why do the Maxies have the Displacer Beast, a Chaotic Evil monster from D&D, under opportunistic land animal? Even if you do leave it with the Maximals, it ought to go in a category with both Avoid and Stealth, cause being hard to hit's kind of the point of a Displacer Beast.

Well, if it helps, don't think about the source image, think of what that icon would represent in Transformers terms: A Cheetah/Squid Fuzor!

by **Bun-Bun** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:55 pm

Over-all I'm satisfied

though I coulda done without the Preds getting the butterfly, Angelfish, and Starfish Alts

But then again maybe it'll tempt some of those Maxi's to join us if they know they can still be pretty.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:34 am

Bun-Bun wrote:though I coulda done without the Preds getting the butterfly, Angelfish, and Starfish Alts

Read up on how Starfish feed on their prey.

You'll come to appreciate how Predaconly brutal and disgusting they are.

As far as the Butterfly and Angelfish...

Predacons have double-agents don't they?

I mean, butterfly is a better disguise than a Black Widow Spider if you're playing double-agent.

News Credits: 1 · by **Kaijubot** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:45 am

While I'm a little dissapointed that the Maximals didn't get Godzilla or a more obvious T-rex stand-in, I'm not going to complain outside of this post as the rest of the alt selection is great.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:08 am

Ive got no complaints. (A few moans and grumbles, but as im a Brit, i'd be betraying my heritage if i didnt... :lol:

)

Thanks for all your hard work on these Mkall. Its obvious you've had to make a few tough choices,[size=0]*cough*toaster!*cough*[/size] but you finished it with style.
Nice work.
:APPLAUSE:

by **Violater** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:30 am

I agree with Psych!
Thaaaaaank yoooouuuuu.

News Credits: 3 · by **Archanubis** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:48 am

Bun-Bun wrote:though I coulda done without the Preds getting the butterfly alt

Just tell yourself it's a moth alt

I have a few " :???:

" moments, but overall, nice work, Mkall.

by **DtreetViper2** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:17 am

Excuse me oh kind lady's and gentlemen while I pick my jaw of the ground :grin:

Makes me wish that the Bots and Maxs were still on the team. :sad:

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:50 am

kaijubot_uk wrote:While I'm a little dissapointed that the Maximals didn't get Godzilla or a more obvious T-rex stand-in.

Yeah, the closest we got is the "hunter-class" dinosaur, but we've got a great selection otherwise:

Icthyosaurus
Elasmosaurus
Raptor (x2)
Stygimoloch
Spinosaurus
Triceratops (x2)
Ankylosaurus (x2)
Sauropod (x4)
Dimetrodon (x2)
Stegosaurus (x3)
Styracosaurus
Parasaurolophus
Ceratosaurus
Pteradactyl (x2)
Archaeopteryx (x2)
+ A couple I can't tell for sure.

Makes it tempting to run a team of Maximal Dinobots in v2.

by **Starlock** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:37 pm

Now if I was to go by which faction has best alts by rating half point to probably will use and one point to will use this is how it turn from my view:

Autobot

Sea: 1
Land: 9
Air: 1.5

Decepticon

Sea: 2.5
Land: 12.5
Air: 3.5

Maximal

Sea: 3.5
Land: 12.5
Air: 6.5

Predacon

Sea: 5
Land: 11
Air: 4.5

Don't think I be going bot in V2, other then Grimlock alt not as appealing. Maximals had some better ones, but they also had some of worse ones, most of those birds look like they die from one touch. Preds has best sea selection easily and Cons has good choices overall.

by **DemonWolf** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:08 pm

Oh big time yeah oh yeah. All the alts I ever wanted as a Max thank you very much Oh great Mkall. I kneel down in front of you and kiss your feet. :grin: