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Mkall wrote:The cons shuttle only repairs one at a time because most decepticons would rather cause damage than fix it.

Not to speak for all cons....but that is my personal line of thinking...damage can be repaired after the fight....if a con doesn't make it through a battle then upgrades are in order

Snarlus Prime wrote:

kaijubot_uk wrote:

Snarlus Prime wrote:Headmaster Creature [Headmaster/Bite/Avoid]

What is this thing?

It's a Trigon, from Warhammer 40,000. Giant organic wrecking machine.

they must have added units in the past year or two then...

thanks!
S.P.

They look like this

So will I finally be able to add Bighorn to my team?

Astrotrain wrote:

Mkall wrote:The cons shuttle only repairs one at a time because most decepticons would rather cause damage than fix it.

Not to speak for all cons....but that is my personal line of thinking...damage can be repaired after the fight....if a con doesn't make it through a battle then upgrades are in order

and you'll forever be a pawn in this great war.... when your level 3s start scoring 33k a mission come back and talk to me about medics


though the problem of each side having different feels is one of balance.....we're DOOOMED!

Mkall wrote:

Caelus wrote:

Thunderscream wrote:

Caelus wrote:Remember, the game uses vastly over-simplifying categories not for the sake of grouping the alts in an aesthetically pleasing way, but for the sake of pairing alternate modes with appropriate icons.

Personally, I think the alt classes for V2 are being made a little more complicated than they need to be, especially between the seperate factions, but that's just me.

Well, look at it this way: I think the general intent is to get as many tactic combinations as possible. Each alt carries 3 tactics in v2, and when you consider the number of tactics in the new game (a lot), and also the fact that the order of the tactics assigned to the alts is variable... Well, the short version is, you wind up with a lot of Alt-Classes to name.

Bingo. I'm also trying to get a different feel for each side. For example, the Autobots have air vehicles that can multi-repair because it's more "Autobot-ish" to have some who are willing to heal rather than fight. The cons shuttle only repairs one at a time because most decepticons would rather cause damage than fix it.

No offense, but in my mind, the whole reorganization still comes in my mind as the developers practicing the old mantra, "If it ain't broke, BREAK IT!" Not to say that some alt classes, like land animals, don't need to be a little less general, but in some cases, it just seems like overkill.

I also suspect that, even if players go :MAX: or RED:, that they'll still prefer land and air vehicle alts over animal alts, as they have since at least I started playing (Glyph did on chart on that a while back ago). I may be wrong, but that's just how I feel.

I just want a bull/buffalo like creature so then I can have Bighorn on my Chosen team...

Primus C-00 wrote::sad:

I just want a bull/buffalo like creature so then I can have Bighorn on my Chosen team...

You need to be a little more specific, are ya gonna be max/pred/bot/com?

By saying "I want a bison" all you've said is you want a bison in the game. chances are 1/4 that it'll be on the same side you'll be on

Heck, as it stands right now, the Maximals have a Bull and a Buffalo, and the Decepticons have bull - so his odds are 1 in 2!

found a con canon in the autobot alt list.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... er_page=20 from ref ,and it is the 2nd autobot Interceptor
i was wondering if the canon windsweeper alt is being updated,or what.
i mainly noticed because it is one of my canon TFs alts,when i get time i will check for others.

Well all my bots thus far are autobots, so does that preclude me from getting a buffalo?

Here's a couple I'd like in the Autobot list:

The Alternator Prowl Acura NSX: Currenly in the Decepticon list, for some reason... http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _car14.gif

G1 Wheeljack's Lancia Stratos: Currently in the Maximal list.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... cecar2.gif

This is my favorite dragon alt, I'd really like it back in the Autobot list:
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... ragon3.gif

oh well if we're going to go personal;

cos i just really like that alt

as a shuttle.

Caelus wrote:

Mkall wrote:Micromaster Tread Bolt: http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/TreadB ... adbolt.htm

Aaahhh... So obviously it is supposed to look like a Stealth Bomber, but being made in 1990, and having large amounts of robot-mode kibble, it fails painfully.

I win! I win! 10 points for me!

Can I please request that this alt mode be shared with the cons as it was repainted in to a decepticon (flamewar) as a bot con exclusive.


Plus I really don't want my biker girl to have to use that ugly Armada Sideways alt.

EDIT: Never mind, just noticed it's in a class the cons don't have.

Uncrazzimatic wrote:EDIT: Never mind, just noticed it's in a class the cons don't have.

Take a close look - Tankor is in a different class to CATalyst. The latter is Burn's kitbash based on the former.

EDIT: I should probably clarify what I actually mean... If the cons had something similar to that, there's no reason it couldn't be in a different class.

Jesus Prime wrote:

Uncrazzimatic wrote:EDIT: Never mind, just noticed it's in a class the cons don't have.

Take a close look - Tankor is in a different class to CATalyst. The latter is Burn's kitbash based on the former.

EDIT: I should probably clarify what I actually mean... If the cons had something similar to that, there's no reason it couldn't be in a different class.

aye, we've got to zoid Genosaurers in different classes, and several f-15s scattered amongst our two jet classes.


it's a world gone insane!

Don't really fancy reading through 10 pages of this to see if anyone else has mentioned it but the Decepticon Targetmaster Air Vehicles have Headmaster listed as their first skill. Is that a typo?

waaaaghlord wrote:Don't really fancy reading through 10 pages of this to see if anyone else has mentioned it but the Decepticon Targetmaster Air Vehicles have Headmaster listed as their first skill. Is that a typo?

But you're fine with reaing 74 pages of the Ugly Mugs thread?

Jesus Prime wrote:

Uncrazzimatic wrote:EDIT: Never mind, just noticed it's in a class the cons don't have.

Take a close look - Tankor is in a different class to CATalyst. The latter is Burn's kitbash based on the former.

EDIT: I should probably clarify what I actually mean... If the cons had something similar to that, there's no reason it couldn't be in a different class.

Good idea JP. You know we could do with more than one bike on the con list wherever you choose to place them Mkall. Pretty please?

I would like to request that these two icons(, ) be made available to Maximal alt classes aside from the targetmaster/headmaster classes they are currently in. These are very interesting designs I may very well want to use, but I have always hated the *master concept with a passion. It would make my day to have these made available elsewhere.

Also I would like to request these alts from the Autobot side for some added variety to our current selection of robotic looking animals(, ) as well as the movie Arcee icon() and the Archangel() to give us a motorcycle alt and large ship alt respectively.

But I would trade all those Autobot alts for the Tachikoma alt. mode() for the maximals.

what's wrong with 'masters?

and if you dont like using 'masters, dont use em, you've still got two other tactics.

Redimus wrote:what's wrong with 'masters?

and if you dont like using 'masters, dont use em, you've still got two other tactics.

Or you could go with the Takara idea of them being Micromasters that control larger mindless bodies if it's the idea of them being squishies that you hate.

That's how I prefer to see it.

Uncrazzimatic wrote:

Redimus wrote:what's wrong with 'masters?

and if you dont like using 'masters, dont use em, you've still got two other tactics.

Or you could go with the Takara idea of them being Micromasters that control larger mindless bodies if it's the idea of them being squishies that you hate.

It is more the idea of two independent parts that bugs me. Oddly enough though I am ok with geshstalts... But back to point, I would prefer they be duplicated into other animal classes like heroic or tough so I can utilize three tactics.

Knives wrote:

Uncrazzimatic wrote:

Redimus wrote:what's wrong with 'masters?

and if you dont like using 'masters, dont use em, you've still got two other tactics.

Or you could go with the Takara idea of them being Micromasters that control larger mindless bodies if it's the idea of them being squishies that you hate.

It is more the idea of two independent parts that bugs me. Oddly enough though I am ok with geshstalts... But back to point, I would prefer they be duplicated into other animal classes like heroic or tough so I can utilize three tactics.

Just think of the master tactics as being entirely unrelated to the concept of masters. The in-game execution seems to be based around enhancing the character's basic attacks.