ZeroWolf wrote:The Siege version was more intended to be a Cybertron mode Magnus like the rest of the Siege range...Kingdom was supposed to be earth mode Magnus. Hasbro would have counted both of them as "G1" Magnus in terms of people's collections. I do think that they should have given the slot to a much better character, someone who needed the price point. If it had to be a g1 character from the movie, maybe Astrotrain would have fit better. While I'm okay with the Siege version, there is no denying that a bigger budget could only improve things as far as hiding parts when in train or shuttle form. However we got...this.
So, c'est a vie.
But who intended the Siege version to be Cybertronian?
And don't get me wrong, I get that designing these figures based on established characters, that designers are going to go back to the well, so the bot mode definitely resembled the G1 character.
But Cybertronian still isn't necessarily G1. Again, the evidence is the ER version.
I didn't put it in my last post, but the alt mode obviously plays into the iteration of a character. It's a more extreme example, but Siege Soundwave isn't G1 because of that lame alt mode.
I also think some people have slightly lost sight of what Hastak is going to produce at different price points...
Meaning, some want one of the really large characters done at Commander Class scale, but don't consider that more plastic eats away at then what's allotted for engineering, paint, weapons, pack-in's, etc.
Do people really want CC figures to be huge, but essentially really basic, up-scaled younger kid figures? Even though you'd think the cost would get you everything, it doesn't. You won't get get size, engineering, paint, accessories, etc.; something will have to give.
And of course, like everyone, I want more bang for my buck. I truly wish $85 resulted in having a figure that really closed-in on MP level.
Hell, the main reason I'm looking to retire from this game is because I'm less and less okay with these costs... Spending $26+ for one deluxe figure doesn't sit well with me... These are toys.
Sure, I've said it's worth it to me to spend $50+ on each SS86 Dinobot... But that's not me saying those figures are actually worth that amount.
Back to UM, I'm just trying to be objective in this...
I don't love this character, and this isn't a figure I've been waiting for like I have been with the Dinobots and Insecticons.
I would've taken a CC Astrotain over Magnus in a heartbeat... I would have legitimately been excited had that happened. I
still don't have an Astrotrain in my collection.
But for me, this Magnus looks incredibly good in both modes. Assuming his next figure isn't CC, I believe this is the definitive version.
And even though the cost is steep, it's to be expected at this point.
If Siege Astrotrain was $50+, clearly could've used some improvement, and people seemed to be okay with that 3 years ago, it seems this large, vastly improved Magnus isn't a huge rip-off at $85.
Unlike Rodimus Prime, and more on par with Motormaster, my gut tells me I'll end up feeling this figure is legitimately worthy of CC.