The Energon Pub

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:19 am

Wow these are realy nice and at last a Bulkhead worthy of buying.

News Credits: 1 · by **Lord Onixprime** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:29 am

WHY IS CLIFF A ZOMBIE!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I want a clean, regular Cliffjumper so I can pretend he never died in the first place.

Prime, Bulkhead and the Eradicon/Vehicon will be mine (might even troop build a little with the Eradicon) but I don't know about Cliffjumper. Probably will. I'd hate to skip it and that be the only Cliffjumper they give us.

Prime can't come soon enough. I want me a Starscream.

by **Swindle01** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:43 am

urghhh...these just look like someone mixed together the crappy movie line toys with a simplistic ko version of the ko movie toys

easy easy pass. id rather have something that looks good IE FP Insecticons ect

News Credits: 4 · by **KnightStrike** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:55 am

I can't wait to get ahold of that Voyager Optimus. I really hope pics of Arcee pop up soon as she is one figure I have been wanting since the show premiered. Come to think of it, Breakdown should make a cool looking figure too. Sort of surprised that zombiecon CJ was even made, must less released in the first wave. Wonder if he might be an exclusive for someplace or maybe just a serious shortpack variant of the normal CJ?

by **warwik311** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:03 am

Catalyst_Prime wrote:
5150 Cruiser wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous

You asnswered your own question. They used dark energon to revieve Cliff Jumper and a shard piece from the all spark was used to bring Megatron from ROTF back to life. Every bot that was brought back with dark energon was a zombie.

BUt then explain why in WFC when all the decepticons were infused with dark energon that they didnt turn into zombies or I could make the point that if Megatron wanted more disposable drones he could have taken the corpses of dead decepticons and revived them with dark energon then he would have his own zombie army!!!

Different universes, Different Rules.

by **prowl123** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:16 am

I need Prime and Bulkhead!

The others are meh. Cliffjumper would be cool if he weren't a zombie. The back kibble ruins the Vehicon for me.

by **griftimus prime** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:34 am

i will never buy cliffjumper while he is looking damaged like that. ugly as sin.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:05 am

Must... have.... Optimus.... and.... Vehicon.... plus Bulkhead... =P~

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:07 am

warwik311 wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:
5150 Cruiser wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous

You asnswered your own question. They used dark energon to revieve Cliff Jumper and a shard piece from the all spark was used to bring Megatron from ROTF back to life. Every bot that was brought back with dark energon was a zombie.

BUt then explain why in WFC when all the decepticons were infused with dark energon that they didnt turn into zombies or I could make the point that if Megatron wanted more disposable drones he could have taken the corpses of dead decepticons and revived them with dark energon then he would have his own zombie army!!!

Different universes, Different Rules.

Exactly what I was thinking. Just because it happens in one continuity doesn't mean that others should follow suit. However, there could be an homage or similar effects, but never the same in different universes. Don't make me go Einstein on you, pal. :-B

by **esclavo** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:08 am

I am sooo loving these!!! Good thing I don't spend my money on crappy movie toys. Now I can use it for these!!! Though I did break and got Skyhammer!!

News Credits: 2 · by **Overloaded** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:09 am

Will they be released before Christmas

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:11 am

Those look good. Very good, actually.

News Credits: 17 · by **cannonfodder4000** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:26 am

griftimus prime wrote:i will never buy cliffjumper while he is looking damaged like that. ugly as sin.

You focus on the negatives too much, have you noticed that? :roll:

News Credits: 1 · by **bluecatcinema** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:28 am

Looks good. Can't wait until they bring out Knock Out, Breakdown and Airachnid. I'm also hoping we get to see the aerial Vehicon variant, and maybe even Skyquake and Wheeljack.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:10 am

Looking pretty good so far, although they are all mistransformed.

News Credits: 187 · by **GetRightRobot** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:28 am

Anyone else ready for the Generations Scourge fiasco again? I know my standard for troop building was defined by Fun Pub with their Botcon troopbuilders consisting of 3. So I will have 3 vehicons. These are all must haves for me, even Drooling Idiot Cliffjumper.

News Credits: 1 · by **Heavy B** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:30 am

I like prime and bulkhead. (Really surprised at how sho acurate he is. I wondered how they would pull it off)

Cliffjumper, i'm waiting for the non zombie version

Vehicon, want 10. (army buillding)

News Credits: 1 · by **Lord Onixprime** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:53 am

KnightStrike wrote:I can't wait to get ahold of that Voyager Optimus. I really hope pics of Arcee pop up soon as she is one figure I have been wanting since the show premiered. Come to think of it, Breakdown should make a cool looking figure too. Sort of surprised that zombiecon CJ was even made, must less released in the first wave. Wonder if he might be an exclusive for someplace or maybe just a serious shortpack variant of the normal CJ?

Pictures of Arcee were released like 5 or 6 months ago. Google then and you should find them. They released them along side of pics of Deluxe class Megatron, Optimus, Bumblebee, and Starscream who are all the first wave of Prime figures. What you see here is Wave 2.

by **CrimsonPrime** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:56 am

Wow ! Just wow...Amazing

. Although I have said before in peaugh video of Starscream that I wont be buying any Prime toys...But after seeing this...I think I would consider having myself some Prime toys

. So now on my Prime list would be Voyager Optimus and Deluxe Vehicon. I dont really dig the Cliff mould and I dont like this Bulkhead either. But I gotta agree that this Bulkhead looks more badass than Leader TFA Bulkhead.But still not that badass for me to buy xD.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:14 am

WINNING!!!

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:54 am

Varia31 wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:BUt then explain why in WFC when all the decepticons were infused with dark energon that they didnt turn into zombies or I could make the point that if Megatron wanted more disposable drones he could have taken the corpses of dead decepticons and revived them with dark energon then he would have his own zombie army!!!

You can't be turned into a zombie if you're not dead. Megatron knew enough about the Dark Energon to where he knew he could harness it as a power source. And also, WFC and Prime are different, and inconsistent. Dark Energon in WFC was a substance guarded by Starscream in Trypticon Station for millennia, and it had the properties to infect and corrupt.

In Prime, Dark Energon is also known as the "Blood of Unicron", and Starscream exhibits no knowledge of past experiences of it whatsoever, other than his understanding of the "legends". Dark Energon also had the properties to infect and corrupt, but could also resurrect the dead in a zombified state, something that was never shown in WFC. Megatron and Starscream even shove a Dark Energon shard into their Spark Cavities and it does what it did in WFC, supercharge them with power. Although in Prime, Megatron had symbiosis with, and had the power to control, the zombies because of his powerful mind and will.

Lastly, Dark Energon can restore the dead, but in a negative way that would create the whole zombie situation. On the other hand, the Allspark is the giver of life in the Movieverse, it is the only thing other than the Matrix of Leadership that can fully restore a Transformer's Spark to full life in a positive way, think the breath of life. Whearas Dark Energon's life giving power is artificial, thus why zombies end up being the result.

Well, while I'm here, I think I'll just say that I WANT THAT OPTIMUS! Yes, yet another to add to my collection of Optimus Primes. lol

It was stated at BotCon 2011 that Dark Energon acts differently in the present (Prime cartoon) than it did in the ancient past (WFC games/Exodus novel). The Terrorcon effect of the stuff didn't come into play until closer to the present day.

The bit about Starscream acting like he had not seen it until episode 2 was done so that viewers who had neither played the games nor read the book could be formally introduced to the stuff.

Flashwave wrote:One, I'd bet soemone else's life that Normal Cliffy is gonna be an exclusive.

You'll lose that bet since it won't be.

KnightStrike wrote:I can't wait to get ahold of that Voyager Optimus. I really hope pics of Arcee pop up soon as she is one figure I have been wanting since the show premiered. Come to think of it, Breakdown should make a cool looking figure too. Sort of surprised that zombiecon CJ was even made, must less released in the first wave. Wonder if he might be an exclusive for someplace or maybe just a serious shortpack variant of the normal CJ?

From days of long ago...

warwik311 wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:
5150 Cruiser wrote:
Catalyst_Prime wrote:Question!: So if cliffjumper is now a zombie, then explain to me why Megatron wasnt a zombie when he was revived in ROTF hhhmmmmmmmmm??????? was it the lack of dark energon or did Bay not want to make ROTF's story seem even more ridiculous

You asnswered your own question. They used dark energon to revieve Cliff Jumper and a shard piece from the all spark was used to bring Megatron from ROTF back to life. Every bot that was brought back with dark energon was a zombie.

BUt then explain why in WFC when all the decepticons were infused with dark energon that they didnt turn into zombies or I could make the point that if Megatron wanted more disposable drones he could have taken the corpses of dead decepticons and revived them with dark energon then he would have his own zombie army!!!

Different universes, Different Rules.