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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:11 am

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The only problem I had with Prime executing Sentinel was that he didn't say something to the effect of "this is for Ironhide" or something like that.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby epicvoiceguy » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:12 am

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I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. I go into the theater to see movies based on things that I like with low expectations to begin with. I try very hard not to buy into the hype because if I go in with low expectations, no matter what, I won't be disappointed. This movie was truly entertaining. Great special effects, the surround sound blew me away (my heart was literally pounding most of the film), the 3-D was really, really cool compared to other 3-D films I've seen (most are dim and not clear and this one was bright and crisp), the stunts and action were spectacular. I have most of the same complaints as Ryan does. Shockwave's my favorite character and I felt he should have played a larger role than just being eye-candy and really should have been voiced by David Warner (or Corey Burton) rather than Frank Welker). Laserbeak speaks... not happy. Not because HE speaks but because he CAN speak and Ravage couldn't, Bumblebee can't, and Jolt doesn't get to. Ratchet has a truly great voice and he has less lines than the previous films. 9 Autobots get exiled? What's up with the private jet tattooed with Autobot symbols in the hanger then? Who is he and why isn't he included in the exiled group? Story stolen from the G1 cartoon? What can I say? Don't mess with the classics. I don't think Prime was out of character. He maintained his heroism and integrity, I think because of Sentinel's betrayal that it caused him to be more vengeful than he normally is. Don't think he should have executed Sentinel though. I think Sentinel should have died at Megatron's hands or gotten accidentally killed by his own space bridge... I love irony. Sideswipe has a few more words than in ROTF and I really liked the addition of John DiMaggio as Leadfoot although I didn't care for the accents. I really don't think Dino is Mirage anymore. I think he is more like the G1 mail-away figure Overdrive! Mirage was not a Ferrari sports car, he was a formula 1 race car and Overdrive was a red Ferrari, at least he certainly looked like one to me! Didn't care for the "Brains" character at all except for the guy who does the voice... he's a funny guy. You can see him every week on Mike & Molly on CBS as Mike's police partner. I liked Ken Jeong's part simply for the fact that he's funny but gets killed off quickly so we don't have all these non-essential comic reliefs in the movie like the previous films. Sadly, there was more character development of Skids and Mudflap in ROTF than any of the characters in DOTM besides Sentinel. I was glad to see Josh Duhamel having less of a role. Unlike Ryan, I didn't care for his acting all that much in the other films (perhaps it was bad direction or writing). There was a perfect opportunity to sneak some GIJOE cameos into this film but Hasbro didn't take the shot, that's just my opinion. I especially thought it was cool that Charlie Adler (the voice of Starscream) made a cameo in the film as himself, however I DIDN'T care for the over-salivic display and death. Soundwave was incredibly cool. I just loved him in this movie. I hated to see him killed but at the same time was happy to see Q killed... that was the worst representation of Wheeljack possibly conceived. I kept expecting him to say to Sam - "MARTY!!! WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO THE FUTURE!" I was THRILLED to see Barricade back but at the same time kind of angry that he just shows up as unexplained as he disappeared the first time only to be killed off. The general audience is going to be like "WHUUUU????" cuz you know they ain't reading the comics to understand where he went and why he's back.

All that being said, here is Optimus Prime's personal opinion about the film:

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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby I_AM... MEGATRON! » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:39 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't say it would have ended the series. But if it had to end, it would have been a better ending because had he rebuilt Cybertron he would have righted his wrongs. He has been an antagonistic maniac all this time, and rebuilding their home planet without Optimus's help and then telling him he could come back any time (I'm paraphrasing) would show a definite change of character. With the movie ending that did happen, it's just another "bad guy causes destruction, good guy makes him pay for it" If you can call Optimus a good guy. Seen it a million times. I haven't seen a main bad guy be seriously and fundamentally redeemed in a movie in a long time, probably since Darth Vader in return of the Jedi.



Though I at first also liked the novel's ending more, think about now, it just wasn't in character for Megatron. It just came out of the blue "oh well, we've spilled enough oil/blood, lets be BFFs again Prime!" Maybe if the other two movies had given us SOME hint of Megs being more than a maniacal tyrant I could buy the novels ending, but as it standings, it just doesnt fit with what we know about Megatron IMO
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:46 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't say it would have ended the series. But if it had to end, it would have been a better ending because had he rebuilt Cybertron he would have righted his wrongs. He has been an antagonistic maniac all this time, and rebuilding their home planet without Optimus's help and then telling him he could come back any time (I'm paraphrasing) would show a definite change of character. With the movie ending that did happen, it's just another "bad guy causes destruction, good guy makes him pay for it" If you can call Optimus a good guy. Seen it a million times. I haven't seen a main bad guy be seriously and fundamentally redeemed in a movie in a long time, probably since Darth Vader in return of the Jedi.



Though I at first also liked the novel's ending more, think about now, it just wasn't in character for Megatron. It just came out of the blue "oh well, we've spilled enough oil/blood, lets be BFFs again Prime!" Maybe if the other two movies had given us SOME hint of Megs being more than a maniacal tyrant I could buy the novels ending, but as it standings, it just doesnt fit with what we know about Megatron IMO


That's a good point. Megatron was kinda thin as a character in Bayverse, so his fate isn't much better. But the book ending was still better, because in the book Megatron was built up just a bit more. In the movie, it seems he just interrupts Sentinel killing Optimus to get Optimus to help him kill Sentinel because he was convinced Sentinel would be the true leader if things transpire according to plan. In the book he actually helps Optimus up after Prime accepts the offered truce, even though Megatron has no hand in killing Sentinel, though Prime does it out of self defense in the book. But I still think it would have benefited Megatron's character and the story as a whole if Cybertron wasn't completely destroyed and Megatron returned and rebuilt it while Prime remained on Earth.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

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I just saw the movie. For those of you who will see the movie and are too exited to know what is the story, I have posted it below...


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In 1961, a Cybertronian spacecraft lands on the dark side of the moon. Known as The Ark, it was the last ship to escape a Cybertron devastated by wars. Piloted by Sentinel Prime, it carried "the Pillars", technology that could save the Cybertronians once and for all. On earth, the crash of The Ark is detected by NASA, and President John F. Kennedy authorises the mission to put a man on the moon. In 1969, Apollo 11 lands on the surface of the moon to collect samples from The Ark.

In the present day, the Autobots have forged a military alliance with the United States of America, but largely act independently in stopping humans from destroying themselves. During a mission in Chernobyl at the request of the Ukrianian government, Optimus Prime discovers a fuel cell from The Ark that the Soviet Union attempted to use as a power source, resulting in the Chernobyl disaster. Optimus is devastated at the news that humans lied to the Autobots - knowing as he does the contents of the ship - and launches his own mission to retrieve the Pillars and revive Sentinel Prime. Just five Pillars remain on-board The Ark, which the Autobots as describe as being the means to establish a mobile space bridge between two points and transport matter through. Charlotte Mearing, the Secretary of Defence is hurried at this revelation as the Pillars could be used to bring an invading army to earth.

Meanwhile, Sam Witwicky is frustrated by his life after graduating from college as he is unable to find a job. He takes his frustrations out on his girlfriend, Carly Spencer, and her close relationship with her playboy accountant boss, Dylan Gould. Sam eventually finds employment in a mail room in a high pressure working environment. One of his co-workers, Jerry Wang, takes an unusual interest in Sam's activities before revealing himself to be a conspiracy theorist. He passes information on to Sam about "the dark side of the moon" before being assassinated by Laserbeak, a condor-like Decepticon. After contacting the retired Seymour Simmons, Sam realises that the Decepticons are systematically targeting people connected to the American and Russian space missions. They are able to locate one of a handful of Russian cosmonauts who fled to America after the Soviet space program was shut down. The cosmonauts are in possession of photos taken by Soviet satellites that clearly show hundreds of Pillars being stockpiled. Sam realises that the Decepticons raided The Ark decades beforehand and are luring the Autobots into a trap: unable to revive Sentinel Prime on their own, they left him and five Pillars - including the Master Pillar, which controls all of them - for the Autobots to find. Sam manages to contact the Autobots and reveal that Sentinel Prime is being targeted by the Decepticons, and they manage to escort him to their base. Sentinel then reveals that he has made a deal with the Decepticons and betrays both the Autobots and the humans, destroying their base and executing Ironhide before fleeing with the Pillars.

Sentinel uses the Pillars to establish a space bridge with the moon, where hundreds of Decepticons have lain in wait for decades. Sam is forced by Dylan Gould - revealed to be the Decepticons' agent on earth - into finding out Optimus Prime's plans for retaliation. He manages to warn Optimus not to say anything as "no human will ever know". The Autobots are exiled from earth by way of a decommissioned Cybertronian spacecraft salvaged from the original landings. However, the Decepticons are lying in wait and shoot the rocket down before taking control of earth. With Gould's help, they establish themselves in Chicago and fortify the city. Gould reveals to a kidnapped Carly that the Decepticons intend to rebuild Cybertron, strip-mining the earth for resources and using humans as slave labour. In order to do this, the Decepticons have placed Pillars around the world to call Cybertron itself through the space bridge.

Angered at the betrayal, Sam finds USAF Chief Robert Epps and the two re-form Epps' disbanded NEST team to go into Chicago and rescue Carly. They are very nearly killed before they have set foot in the city and are saved by the return of Optimus Prime and the Autobots, who escaped the explosion of their shuttle by hiding in one of the booster rockets that was disengaged before the Decepticon attack. Sam, the Autobots and NEST advance on Gould's penthouse to rescue Carly and disable the Master Pillar before Cybertron appears in the sky. After battling through the city, NEST take out the Decepticon leaders while Carly convinces Megatron that he will answer to Sentinel Prime once Cybertron is restored, instead of leading the Cybertronians himself. Sam is able to get to the Master Pillar where he confronts Gould. Gould is electrocuted by the Pillar, which Bumblebee smashes to pieces. The connection to Cybertron is broken, and the half-formed planet collapses in upon itself. With Cybertron destroyed, Optimus and Sentinel fight one another in the ruins of Chicago. Optimus loses an arm and is about to be killed by Sentinel before Megatron intervenes, having believed Carly. This gives Optimus the opening he needs to re-enter the fight, ripping Megatron's head and spine from his body before executing Sentinel. Sam and Carly are reunited while the Autobots accept that with Cybertron gone, Earth is now their only home.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Starscream GaGa » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:48 am

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I_AM... MEGATRON! wrote:Though I at first also liked the novel's ending more, think about now, it just wasn't in character for Megatron. It just came out of the blue "oh well, we've spilled enough oil/blood, lets be BFFs again Prime!" Maybe if the other two movies had given us SOME hint of Megs being more than a maniacal tyrant I could buy the novels ending, but as it standings, it just doesnt fit with what we know about Megatron IMO


You can't argue that because Megatron still offered a truce with Optimus in the movie too.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby I_AM... MEGATRON! » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:53 am

Starscream GaGa wrote:
I_AM... MEGATRON! wrote:Though I at first also liked the novel's ending more, think about now, it just wasn't in character for Megatron. It just came out of the blue "oh well, we've spilled enough oil/blood, lets be BFFs again Prime!" Maybe if the other two movies had given us SOME hint of Megs being more than a maniacal tyrant I could buy the novels ending, but as it standings, it just doesnt fit with what we know about Megatron IMO


You can't argue that because Megatron still offered a truce with Optimus in the movie too.


Except the way it played out in the movie, it seemed pretty obvious Megs was just BSing
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Screamfleet » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:53 am

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Really though, I liked it better than the first one, but, I think I like the 2nd one best. What a big blow to beloved characters.
I'll be happy if they're just done with this universe.
They had some interesting elements in there. Laserbeak was a huge highlight for me. He spoke, big whoop, he was like rumble combined with laserbeak. I'd love him being all deceptive killing humans.
I wasn't expecting huge big differences from the first two. More michael bay explosions and some dumb plot.
This one probably has the dumbest plot of them all, but, the best action scenes of them all.
Worst use the of the decepticons, so many mindless grunts.
Using JFK was pretty horrible. I mean....come on. Buzz Aldrin too. Really? We're going to throw that bit of history in there for this little robot movie? This isn't forest gump, blech.
I guess I really just hate tying in american history to the transformers.

I had high hopes for them making sentinel a sympathetic villain, but he quickly fell into "humans are slaves" and that was really disappointing. His ending more so. Optimus sure is kill happy.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Great Atlas » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:55 am

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I just saw it. I liked it, but I wish some of the major Decepticons didn't die though. Technically this doesn't completely rule out a sequel bc Cybertron wasn't completely destroyed only a piece of it imploded. Overall though it was cool!
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Capt.Failure » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:57 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't say it would have ended the series. But if it had to end, it would have been a better ending because had he rebuilt Cybertron he would have righted his wrongs. He has been an antagonistic maniac all this time, and rebuilding their home planet without Optimus's help and then telling him he could come back any time (I'm paraphrasing) would show a definite change of character. With the movie ending that did happen, it's just another "bad guy causes destruction, good guy makes him pay for it" If you can call Optimus a good guy. Seen it a million times. I haven't seen a main bad guy be seriously and fundamentally redeemed in a movie in a long time, probably since Darth Vader in return of the Jedi.


That's because it gets exponentially harder to redeem a character as the atrocities they commit pile up through a series. I felt sympathetic for Darth Vader when I first saw Return of the Jedi. After the prequels less so.

Megatron is a backstabber, a war criminal, an omnicidal maniac, a racist (in a fantastic sense of hating organic life), and responsible for the deaths of unknown numbers of Cybertronians and hundreds of thousands of humans. Not to mention no less than three plots to destroy Earth (and vicarious of one, the entire solar system) and having already willingly assited in turning Cybertron into a lifeless husk. To draw a comparison Anikin Skywalker did what he did under the influence of a malignant power while Megatron was acting out of nothing but his own ego, hatred, and inflated sense of superiority.

While I admit they could have done better with characterization you gotta look at it from the perspective of the events in the series. Megatron is basically beyond the point of no return when it comes to changing his mind. To somehow imply Optimus is a villian for cutting him down is absolutely absurd.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Screamfleet » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:05 am

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Especially after megatron was already killed once before, and such.
I'm a fan of villains, and Decepticon's, but I agree that killing Megatron would stop him. I'm not really bothered by Megatron's death, who is one of my favorite characters. Megatron is suddenly going to turn good, he achieves his solutions through oppression and killing.

Sentinels death was more open to redemption. He doesn't take the matrix from Optimus when he has the chance. He doesn't kill Optimus twice when he has the chance. He was looking to save cybertronians...bah...
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby jjtb9 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:25 am

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Sorry for pointing this out, but Carly DOES refer to Megatron and "Sentinel's b*itch".
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby MINDVVIPE » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:25 am

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zenosaurus_x wrote:
It's mostly how it happened, Megatron dying in battle would've made sense...but he asks for a truce and Prime just kills him? Though technically, Prime in the G1 movie would've done the same thing, if it weren't for Hot Rod....



Uh, you really don't know that for sure, and its not really comparable from what i've read since in the toon movie, you SEE megatron eyeing the gun under the debris.... soooo
As for the whole Prime being out of character thing... Yea, I'd say it definitely seems non fitting, especially due to events in the movie preceeding this. its not the nature of Optimus to kill WITHOUT hesitation.. there needs to be a moment of hesitation, atleast, and backed up by a reminder that Megatron really does deserves to die. Its called 'good story telling', regardless of real life facts.
The fact that there are so many people who don't find this end fitting is proof that it is a bad execution as a movie in this scene. Just seems like another way to make Prime seem more appealing to kids and sell more merchandise, etc etc etc. marketing etc. :roll: :BANG_HEAD: =;
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Screamfleet » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:31 am

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jjtb9 wrote:Sorry for pointing this out, but Carly DOES refer to Megatron and "Sentinel's b*itch".


Yea, which was stupid, why does megatron care what a human thinks, and why didn't he just kill her?
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Starscream GaGa » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:39 am

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Screamfleet wrote:Yea, which was stupid, why does megatron care what a human thinks, and why didn't he just kill her?


I think it was more the realization that he was getting the short-end of the stick than caring what she thought.
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Postby LiKwid » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:44 am

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Anyone notice during Sam's and Starscreams fight scene, a over head shoit is shown and you can clearly see a peice of what looks like a fender from a red chevy beat? I know Mudflap is black with red stripes this time around, just thought that was weird how it was ded center during the shot and they panned down to the shot several times..

I liked it alot..Improved over ROTF in so many ways but it did have flaws. The technological advances and special effects though blew me away. My theater just recently got the new Sony 4k projectors and even in 2d the film POPPED..Got to see it a few more times to really soak it all in.. Freat Review Ryan, nice to see we had the same thoughts on alot of the film..

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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby ShinkenPrime » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:48 am

I don't see Prime as being out of character. If anything...this is Prime pushed to his breaking point. Prime in these movies is a character who has seen friends die in a pointless war. Seen his planet die. He has watched his brother destroy everything he cared about. And then he arrived on earth. He has a chance to start over. Friends, allies. And that same person who ruined his old home wants to ruin this one. Prime will not be making the same mistakes. He won't hesitate. He wont' back down. Prime has gotten more and more vicious as these movies continue. And that's in direct response to the Decepticon's own viciousness.

I know the classic G1 Prime was never this brutal. But honestly...he didn't fight as much as this one. That Prime had the bonus of essentially being in a coma for eons and then waking up one day with no wear and tear. Movie Prime has fought all this time. He's seen horrors and terrors. He's seen his planet destroyed. Each movie,Prime makes it a point to say he is home. That they will protect the planet.

Which is why he wouldn't take the truce of a bot who tried to kill someone to essentially prove a point.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Screamfleet » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:50 am

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Screamfleet wrote:Yea, which was stupid, why does megatron care what a human thinks, and why didn't he just kill her?


I think it was more the realization that he was getting the short-end of the stick than caring what she thought.


So, he needs a human to point things out to him? It was really sour and stupid.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Starscream GaGa » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:55 am

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Screamfleet wrote:So, he needs a human to point things out to him? It was really sour and stupid.


I think this is a situation where you just have to cut losses and be happy that there was a scene in which a Transformer was actually speaking for more than one line.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby MINDVVIPE » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:07 am

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ShinkenPrime wrote:I don't see Prime as being out of character. If anything...this is Prime pushed to his breaking point. Prime in these movies is a character who has seen friends die in a pointless war. Seen his planet die. He has watched his brother destroy everything he cared about. And then he arrived on earth. He has a chance to start over. Friends, allies. And that same person who ruined his old home wants to ruin this one. Prime will not be making the same mistakes. He won't hesitate. He wont' back down. Prime has gotten more and more vicious as these movies continue. And that's in direct response to the Decepticon's own viciousness.

I know the classic G1 Prime was never this brutal. But honestly...he didn't fight as much as this one. That Prime had the bonus of essentially being in a coma for eons and then waking up one day with no wear and tear. Movie Prime has fought all this time. He's seen horrors and terrors. He's seen his planet destroyed. Each movie,Prime makes it a point to say he is home. That they will protect the planet.

Which is why he wouldn't take the truce of a bot who tried to kill someone to essentially prove a point.


Your sorta missing the point... its not that it isn't possible for optimus to do what he does, but HOW its portrayed. After the truce offering, lets have some more dialogue, lets have prime and megatron clash philosophies just a little, so that prime can say "So you can come back to kill us all over again? No, your coming with me to be tried as a prisoner of cybertron, dead or alive!"
THEN have megatron lose it, fight, and prime win after a solid battle one on one...
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Postby ShinkenPrime » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:44 am

Your sorta missing the point... its not that it isn't possible for optimus to do what he does, but HOW its portrayed. After the truce offering, lets have some more dialogue, lets have prime and megatron clash philosophies just a little, so that prime can say "So you can come back to kill us all over again? No, your coming with me to be tried as a prisoner of cybertron, dead or alive!"
THEN have megatron lose it, fight, and prime win after a solid battle one on one...


I got your point. That you feel it needed more explanation. But honestly...I don't think it did. I think Prime said it quite well. Megatron said "What would you be with me?" and Prime picks up the axe and says "Time to find out." That one line says everything. Prime will no longer be defined by this war. By his relationship with Megatron. By his fear that Megatron will come back. Rather then have a huge discussion or dragged out cliche speech, he just makes a line and makes the kill. At this point...their philosophies have been explained well enough. Megatron will do whatever it takes to bring Cybertron back. Prime will do whatever it takes to protect earth, their new home. There really isn't anything more that needs to be said on that front.

Megatron's truce in the movie just seemed like a typical "I killed him, so let's just keep the status quo" truce. And Prime basically said no. The book actually made a point to show that Megs meant it.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby zenosaurus_x » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:03 am

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zenosaurus_x wrote:
It's mostly how it happened, Megatron dying in battle would've made sense...but he asks for a truce and Prime just kills him? Though technically, Prime in the G1 movie would've done the same thing, if it weren't for Hot Rod....



Uh, you really don't know that for sure, and its not really comparable from what i've read since in the toon movie, you SEE megatron eyeing the gun under the debris.... soooo
As for the whole Prime being out of character thing... Yea, I'd say it definitely seems non fitting, especially due to events in the movie preceeding this. its not the nature of Optimus to kill WITHOUT hesitation.. there needs to be a moment of hesitation, atleast, and backed up by a reminder that Megatron really does deserves to die. Its called 'good story telling', regardless of real life facts.
The fact that there are so many people who don't find this end fitting is proof that it is a bad execution as a movie in this scene. Just seems like another way to make Prime seem more appealing to kids and sell more merchandise, etc etc etc. marketing etc. :roll: :BANG_HEAD: =;


Well, I meant as far as Prime was about to shoot, then Hot Rod jumped. The line he said was "You, who are without mercy now ask for it?" while still aiming his gun at Megatron. I figured he was going for the kill.

As for this scene, it seems pretty similar, though I would've had it as Megatron offers the truce, Optimus says something along the lines of "You know it can never be" or something, and they go for their final epic battle. Seems a bit more in character than just HACK, dead.
I haven't SEEN the scene yet though, going based off what I've heard.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby crispy5 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:19 am

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There were no words like "pussy" or "bitch" in this movie, which made me feel a little squeamish in ROTF. Either Wheelie or Brains says "dickhead" if I recall correctly, but it seemed rather appropriate.



Thanks for the review. As a former Chicagoan, I, too, was awed by the depiction of Chicago's destruction on screen.

Just a small correction... the word "bitch" was indeed uttered in a conversation with Megatron.

Also, I thought Laserbeak's faux-Bumblebee mode was more pink. It would make sense since he was playing with a little girl while in that mode.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Chaoslock » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:22 am

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Well, Prime wasn't out of his character, that's sure. He's Bayformer "Brutallicus" Prime, the Barbarian, and Megatron found him in berserk mode.
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Re: Share your reviews of Transformers Dark of the Moon here!

Postby Megatronsdemise666 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:19 am

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ShinkenPrime wrote:
Your sorta missing the point... its not that it isn't possible for optimus to do what he does, but HOW its portrayed. After the truce offering, lets have some more dialogue, lets have prime and megatron clash philosophies just a little, so that prime can say "So you can come back to kill us all over again? No, your coming with me to be tried as a prisoner of cybertron, dead or alive!"
THEN have megatron lose it, fight, and prime win after a solid battle one on one...


I got your point. That you feel it needed more explanation. But honestly...I don't think it did. I think Prime said it quite well. Megatron said "What would you be with me?" and Prime picks up the axe and says "Time to find out." That one line says everything. Prime will no longer be defined by this war. By his relationship with Megatron. By his fear that Megatron will come back. Rather then have a huge discussion or dragged out cliche speech, he just makes a line and makes the kill. At this point...their philosophies have been explained well enough. Megatron will do whatever it takes to bring Cybertron back. Prime will do whatever it takes to protect earth, their new home. There really isn't anything more that needs to be said on that front.

Megatron's truce in the movie just seemed like a typical "I killed him, so let's just keep the status quo" truce. And Prime basically said no. The book actually made a point to show that Megs meant it.


i liked the ending. and it wasnt a fight but more of a surprise attack. megatron wasnt really paying attention, as he was focused on sentinel.

and the whole truce thing. i mean come on its megatron. he wouldnt have kept it
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