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(sorry for double post)....Him to be all Shockwave from Dreamwave would have been awesome but the poor Cyclops only got like two scenes. Megatron has pretty much become 2nd banana but can you blam him? guy's missing half his head. Sentinal Prime has pretty much proven no matter what continuity he's in he'll always be a dick. The music was good, fights are awesome, acting okay. I just don't understand why the "professional" critics are looking down and hating it? You not expecting academy award stuff gere it's Michael Bay blowing up half of Chicago. If you want a bad movie wait a week for Zookeeper and tell me which one you would rather watch s%#$heads. this does pretty much feel like the last movie it's now sequel proof with all the bad guys dead. then again there still all those other Con's in the world so hell if I know. final score: 7/10

So, I saw the movie this morning and haven't stopped thinking about it since. This review covers it fairly thoroughly though there were some things I'd add to it.
For one, I thought it really illogical that Sam was so removed from the Autobots in the beginning. After all he'd been through with them, he should have had a communicator watch, at minimum, so that they could all stay in touch.
Also, I would assume that having such close connections with the bot's, Lennox would have had him trained in some way, given that he's always in the thick of every conflict with the con's.
Finally, I thought Megatron had been misused and abused since ROTF. Here he is, all this time later with a new form yet he still has a wrecked half of his face? Also, he WAS pretty much Sentinel's b!tch (even without Carly(<--WTF?!) telling him so) and was easily dispatched by Optimus. He exuded zero amount of the power, confidence, and/or deadly capability he had in the first movie. Shockwave had more of all of that without spouting a single complete sentence. I actually felt bad for Megatron as he was punked by Sentinel.
Overall, I thought the movie was awesome and amazing. I was completely taken in and didn't want it to end. I'll be seeing it again in 3D if the reviews for it go well. I can't wait for a new trilogy.

When I left the movie, I was very..."meh." The only time I got really excited was hearing the Ferrarri's engine rev at one point, though I did laugh at a few of the appropriate, and sometime's not so inappropriate times (IE seeing Barricade made me laugh).
I'm not sure what it is - because when I remember all the individual parts of the film - I get excited and love them as I recall each frame. In many ways I agree with Autobot032's post/review.

I've been going over the various factors in my head of why I'm so "meh" when the whole is said and done...we were in an underwhelming theater (when location text came up in the bottom left of the screen, part of it was cut off because apparently the screen wasn't wide enough...), since they had a showing at 11 AM on the 29th, and I had to work later in the day....

Regardless, as I go over each part of the film, I loved it.
I'm hoping I can manage to get to see it once more in theaters, hopefully in a better locale. If for no other reason to see if a bad theater is the reason I was underwhelmed overall, but also just to get to see it once more before having to wait for it to come out on disc to examine it more closely.

The one thing I CAN review/comment on is that I felt very much like Shockwave could and SHOULD have been a more prominant character - Sentinel didn't have to be the big wig like he was. Shockwave could've easily replaced Sentinel in many later scenes of the Prime, though it would require some change to the script.
This would allow Shockwave to more or less take over the Decepticons (but Shockwave could logically deduce that Megatron wouldn't outright give up command of the Decepticons, hence having to sort of slowly uproot him) - and Megatron could still realize this and try to take it back at the end. And this would allow more speaking roles for him, and thus, characterization.
Sentinel wouldn't have to be such an outright traitor, though that card could still be played if they really wanted to.
Guess I'll have to wait 'till I've seen the film too many times to count, but at that point I'll probably be trying to write a full thing about how that could've worked, if indeed, it could.

edit: Oh, and on the mean Prime issue:
It seemed to me like Sentinel sort of pushed Prime over the edge, or, less negatively, actually changed Prime with something he said earlier - about Optimus never making "the tough decisions" or whatever. That IMMEDIATELY made me think about the typical hesitate before, if making a kill thing. When Sentinel said that - it may have hurt Prime to the point when he takes that to heart/spark ... and we see the results in the other's deaths, as he tries something different from the norm - perhaps out of desperation to end the rest of the killing/war - to see if it yields a better outcome.

I saw the movie Tuesday at 9:10 and I liked it.. didn't love it but didn't hate it. Laserbeak was one of my favorites! He's a classic creepy evil minion. The only thing I didn't like was near the end it felt a little rushed.

I think they could have pulled a Harry Potter and split this film into 2 parts...erm....movies.

A few more thoughts...

Cybertron: The designers must've played a round or two of WFC, because that was the first thing that popped into my head when it appeared on screen. For a minute, I was expecting to see WFC style bots to appear. The layers, the holes, how it's all interconnected, the trenches, and so on...it was like seeing WFC on the big screen, in live action. It was awesome.

Shockwave: For the most part, yeah, he was a throwaway character. He was taken out with relative ease, considering his death. However, he controlled/piloted the driller, so it actually makes him one of the biggest bad asses in the whole thing. I didn't find the driller to be sentient. I found it to be a vehicle/remote control weapon. The novel implied it was sentient, barely. That never came through on screen. If you look at it as him using it as a weapon, then yeah, he was definitely a bad ass.

Starscream: His death was a bit much to swallow, all things considered, but if you look at it from the "fun romp" angle, it works. And yes, he did say "I will kick you", not kill. Starscream also didn't receive much screen time, nor was he all that impressive when he did.

This movie does not have to be the last. There are enough loose ends left open for them to carry on with the storyline.

1.) We don't know for sure that all of Cybetron was destroyed. Why? When the space bridge is temporarily disabled, the piece of the planet that did come through just sat in space. It was clearly disconnected from the rest of Cybertron. The only visible piece was destroyed for sure, so we cannot say with 100% certainty that the whole of Cybertron was destroyed. Admittedly, we can't say it wasn't either.

2.) Only some of the ships were destroyed and swallowed into the vacuum, specifically the ones around and above Chicago. There's still other ships and other Decepticons around the world. The ones that were sent out to deploy the space bridge are still out there.

3.) So, Sentinel is dead. Megatron is dead. The Fallen is dead. That does not mean that all deadly and dangerous Decepticons are gone. There could be some badass that makes all of them look like a Girl Scout, just waiting and biding his time.

You could seal up the trilogy, sure. You don't have to. There's too many loose ends left dangling. Will they continue with this storyline? Probably not. I'm not getting my hopes up. Will we see another big screen adventure? Probably.

All in all, end or not, this trilogy went out with a bang, and it was pretty fantastic.

Oh, and one more thing...Prime still has the Matrix of Leadership. We have no idea what it's truly capable of. Last we saw of Ironhide, he was rusting, but he was in pieces, and not everything (including his head) was obliterated. Could he be resurrected? It's possible. Of course, I'm grasping at straws here, and it's not my intention to make something out of nothing, just pointing out there are too many loose ends to make this just end and go away.

There are options, and Kruger has shown he's capable of great ideas. What about Junkions? Jhiaxus? Even Galvatron? I just hate to see them end this series simply because they can.

I have to say, it was better than I expected, and certainly a lot better than ROTF. There were of course thigns I didn't like about it, but instead of whinging I'll just say I really liked the destruction of Chicago, it was beautifully done. I completely had no idea that Sentiel would be the traitor. I liked the few easter eggs hidden throughout, and I did like the plot plucked from the G1 cartoon, albeit it was completely unreaslitic and could have been done better. The actress responsible for Carly I though could act a lot better than that last woman, although I had to wonder what she's had done to her lips? The sex jokes were toned down so that was good. I'm ever so glad they got rid of the "twins", and their replacements, thsoe little things, I tolerated them.

I was dissappointed and "groaned" at a few things, but far fewer less than the outrage I felt after ROTF. All up, it delivers what it promises, was a bit long though.

I have to say, as a G1er, I am contented with it.

The plot is taken from The Ultimate Doom from G1 and works well

It took parts of couple episodes. Megatron's Master plan, making the autobots leave the planet. Ultimate Doom with the obvious bringing Cybertron to Earth and enslaving us. Dark Awakening, having the return of a fallen mentor who turned out to be a trap, even down to Optimus wanted to immediately return the matrix to Sentinel the way Hotrod did with Optimus as the younger prime greatly doubted themselves.

hellkitty wrote:I think chees's point was that Optimus's ethics are a bit...darker than previous incarnations of Autobots? I remember being more than a little dismayed in ROTF when Bumblebee skinned Ravage and that whole 'gimme ur fais' meme. In my Geewunner head? AUTOBOTS DON"T DO THAT. They fight, but they're not brutal thugs.

If they are, do they deserve to win?

HK, not had tea yet, and philosophizin'.

Yeah, what's up with that? I'd like to hear Bay's ramblings on why he decided to make Prime such a energon thristy arse. Call me old fashioned, but it doesn't make me think he's much of a hero or much to be respected if he can't at least think of other alternatives than just ripping someone's linkage out - though that was pretty cool. Would have perferred to see a Decepticon do it to an Autobot.

Megatronsdemise666 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So which happened first? Megatron's search for the Allspark which waylaid him on Earth, or the staged shoot-down of the Ark which subsequently landed on the Moon?

i really dont get how people cant figured out how the events happened.

the ark getting shot down happened after megatron going after the allspark

im guessing sentinal and megatron were planning to meet after megatron had found the allspark

The ark was shot down while Sentinel was in charge. The allspark was jettisoned into space by Optimus when he was in charge, so you have it backwards.

After reading and talking to people, everything makes more sense and it doesn't really retcon the older movies, just different last ditch efforts by the decepticons in each one. 1st: Allspark 2nd: Star Harvester 3rd: Transporting Cybertron near a planet full of slaves (humans).

After losing the main primes and the ability to harvest stars, cybertron starts dying, civil war breaks out, sentinel makes a secret truce with megatron to try and find a slave planet (maybe knowing of earth, maybe not. If it is known, earth could have been it's trajectory and when it was shot, it was still going in that direction). Megatron never hears back, sentinel is gone, Optimus takes leader role and when things look even worse on cybertron, he jettisons the Allspark, almost like their version of earth's golden disc (the real one we shot out into space) but also to keep it's power away from the decepticons.

However, when Megatron awakens he is immediately killed, so when he awakes in the first movie, it's a blur to him. When he gets rez'd again in the second movie, he goes straight to his master to find out what's going on and what to do. Allspark got transfered sam's brain which means the allspark always had the location of the matrix/harvester. The fallen's main agenda is destroying earth's sun because he never got to and he has some resentment for earth.

Can someone explain to me though, what/how/when Soundwave got to earth and started scheming?

I am not a professional reviewer but I do intend on being a filmmaker as a career. As far as I know this film is a movie that was ruined by Michael Bay. But there was a couple of things you forgot to mention. Words like "bitch" were in the film especially that scene where Megatron is told my Carly. But did anybody else notice that a lot of decepticons were "reused" for example. Barricade didn't have a line and was a "backround" decepticon. Long Haul made an appearance and was that Decepticon who scanned the Garbage Truck. The regular drones that were present in ROTF were also the regular drones in this one. Also there is a small clip where the Autobots are killing several of Decepticons but I couldn't help but notice that I saw Bonecrusher from the first film and I think I even saw Mixmaster from ROTF. This film took a lot of cues from Terminator, Battlefield: LA, and Independence Day. Terminator with the ability to instantly demolish human lives, Battlefield: LA with the tormenting Decepticon aircrafts that did the same thing as the ones in Battlefield: LA that is joining up in one bigger aircraft and also that invasion feeling. And from Independence Day, definitely when Cybertron came into orbit of Earth. Also there was a couple of ironic moments. Wheelie and that new guy were watching Star Treck and then they see Leonard Nimoy's character and Wheelies states "Hey this is the episode where he goes nuts". AS SOON AS I learned that Sentinel Prime was the bad guy, I was reminded of that clip, and at first I thought they used that clip because Nimoy voiced Sentinel but Sentinel did "go nuts". Also lately there has been a bit of copying going on with Transformers and the praised and great films by Christopher Nolaon, Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. I'll start with the not-so obvious first. Sentinel Prime taught Optimus Prime everything about being a leader and being noble, and then later betrays him and says its for his world's own good. Ras Al Ghul from Batman Begins was the exact same character. Ras believed that once cities get filled with crime that those cities should collapse for the sake of the planet earth. Well in that case, they should have used Liam Neeson's voice for Sentinel besides his voice is perfect. Hmm that throws in an interesting trivia point, Liam Neeson's body was the inspiration of the designers of Optimus Prime's body in this franchise. Well besides the unobvious lets get to the point. The score from the first Transformers film was scored by Steve Jablonsky took A LOT of notes from Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard. The first film's score sounded a lot like Batman Begin's score. Batman Begins released in theaters in 2005, Transformers in 2007. The Dark Knight releases in theaters in 2008, Transformers ROTF releases in 2009 and once again had the similar score to The Dark Knight, also scored by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard. I'm surprised that the Joker's theme wasn't Megatron's theme. And this new great big blockbuster once again takes the creative originality from Hans and Chris Nolan's new Inception released in 2010. This time Hans alone, well also with Zack Hempsy but he only did the trailer's music based on Hans Zimmer's already developed score (here's the links of the Third Inception trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66TuSJo4dZM and the music alone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOJqicM6x84) those deep blows on the trambone that Inception's soundtrack is highly known for is in nearly the whole film and even the first Trailer. And that inspirational fanfare from the that linked Inception trailer is present in Optimus Prime's sword slashing scene where his jet armor falls off. Don't get me wrong that scene was sick especially with the music I was familiar with, but COME ON. Steven Jablonsky is copying Trailers too? Seriously? WOW, hey Steve be original for once, Hans Zimmer isn't working his ass off just to get copied by you. Now my rant about GM. It's one thing that GM is pretty much the only car present in this whole Franchise besides the military vehicles, Barricade's Saleen, Soundwave's Mercedes, Dino's Ferrari, Q's mercedes, and Optimus Primes Peterbilt; you cannot have nothing but GM and then show a DODGE RAM in this film. That is absurd because to be honest I am a Ford man and I was anxious to see a Ford vehicle be a Transformer but no, not even a sideline vehicle like that dodge. If you are using nothing but GM I can't stand to see Dodge on the sideline while Ford is behind the camera transporting cameras and carrying rigs, but then again Ford is just the best at doing all the Tough work and won't go bankrupt. Anyways besides my rant on not showing a lovely Ford vehicle, now I want to say a few things about the designs, yes I agree WTF was Q. He looked like crap, like Skids and Mudflap from ROFL I mean not exactly but still. Shockwave wtf, that was WAY too simple for a film like this. Megatron didn't seem as menacing as before, even though he wasn't, but it would've been better if they would've kept him as a cybertronian something. Soundwave weak, laserbeak was ok, the Dreads were pretty cool I'm not gonna lie. Sentinel seemed simple, that Decepticon that had four feet was pretty cool, thats if you saw him, Dino was not what I expected in other words disappointed, the wreckers sucked especially that fat one. And last but not least Optimus Prime's Jet mode, that was awesome, better than the combo version. I completely agree with everything that was said about taking out unnecessary scenes and yes this franchise has used the robots as a plot device rather than a character, maybe to give us a feel of what it would be like to live with Transformers but nah these filmmakers are not in-depth artistic film makers expect for the once who made the designs for the robots. That's all I gotta say and even though I think the new girl was hot, Megan Fox should have stayed, and I am pretty sure if the character of Mikaela was hearing about a Decepticon invasion I don't think she would've stayed home. Also another thing this franchise lacked, did these new Transformers like pop out of no where I mean where did shockwave come in and Soundwave in the second. And Dino, the racist robots, Q, and sideswipe and the rest. This makes no sense. Thanks this is yours truly hatesbay, thanks for reading

I really enjoyed this film.I think that each film brought something to the franchise in its own special way. I don't think they should have involved Shockwave at all in the film watch the movie and you will see why. If they did have a new trilogy they could use Galvatron, Scourge, and Cyclonus as main Decepticons, but I will not say why if you haven't seen it. The view of Cybertron. The history lesson for the kids. Just think what about those people who actually remember when man first landed on the moon and what if this was their account untold that would have been priceless. Buzz Aldrin in a Transformers movie, a real American hero (no pun intended). This movie has a little bit of everything in it. I will say that there could have been a little more character development on the part of Starscream and Megatron. If I had written this film I would have had the plan hatched between Starscream and Sentinel Prime and then throwing it back to part one where Starscream was one of the fighters that fired on Megatron before actually going to the moon instead of I think it was a moon of Neptune or Saturn can't remember. Then there would have been reason for the Optimus/Megatron team up. I also thought the targetmaster jets were cool. It was a brutal movie by all accounts. They made Sam more heroic in this film, I think I like his character most in this film, (girly scream and all lol). Carly was amazing and I think her acting was way better and more involved than Mikaela's. She was more active in a way. She challenged Megatron works for me. I like Sentinel Prime I thought he was a good villian that truly wasn't a villian from a certain point of view. Really neither was Megatron for that matter!!! All they wanted was for Cybertron to be revived but Megatron wanted to rule, and Sentinel wanted it to exist again as it was! There was a lot of Megatron's Master Plan and The Ultimate Doom with an All Hail Megatron, and Highlander to boot. Gosh highway chase scenes are just so awesome and full of tension. Dino and the Dreads best scene to me!!!

A Bay film is a Bay film and I didnt have any expectations and was quite entertained but when I left the cinema there was only one question I had. And it surprised me. I mean I really wasnt expecting to be asking this question.

What happened to wheelie and Brains??

I really didnt like wheelie in ROTF (in fact I thought he was terrible) and I hadnt liked the look of Brains from the trailer at all, but over the course of the film I suprisingly grew very fond of the two of them. They had almost as much screen time and interaction together as Optimus and Sentinel and one of the only times I felt something during the film was when the pair were locked up in a cage about to board the Ark. And their final act of bringing down the warship pretty much saved the Autobots and the Earth.

I know they stated they were going to die but The ship didnt explode and I thought maybe they would pop up again at the end but they didnt. Ihavnt read the novelisation which many are comparing to. Is there any mention in this?

IMO it was the strongest relationship in the film and I was disappointed to see them go.

I loved the film but there was one thing that bugged me. Why would any human want to be a slave? Other than that it was great IMO.

When it comes out on DVD and Blu-RayI want to see the full scene of the Sentinel Prime betrayal (Which was a WTF moment for me). The twins were part of that scene and I really wouldn't mind if there was an uncut version of the movie when it drops on DVD.

Dark of the Moon wraps up the trilogy nicely, but IF there is going to be a 4 or another trilogy I would like to see:
Galvatron w/ Cyclonus & Scourge
Astrotrain(I honestly thought that the driller was Astrotrain haha)
Trypticon
Metroplex
Stunticons
Aerialbots(Really wished that they were in DOTM but oh, well)
Ultra Magnus
Prowl
Maybe the Dinobots but I wouldn't care if they were in a film or not
Note that the battle doesn't necessarily have to happen on Earth but it would be cool for more robots.

I would like to see a director's cut with the twins put back in.

The humor involving his parents...seemed a little mean spirited. I mean, it was always mouthy and jabby, but it was good natured and never cruel. This movie? They both seemed rather....quick to cut him down to size.

After what happened in Egypt, and how his parent reacted when he died/came back, and seeing them now, they just seemed...well, like total dickheads.

Speaking of the movies, the movie going audience doesn't follow the comic books. We do. To our fandom, they're official canon. To Bay, the producers and the rest of the audience, the movies are the only canon. Can't rely on the comics as a crutch for every explanation.

The original Primes use the sun harvester to create more Energon. The Fallen betrayed them, they died on Earth, in 10,000 B.C.

The Allspark, was sent out into space and crash landed on Earth sometime after The Fallen's betrayal.

Megatron and Sentinel found the Allspark, devised their plan and Megatron went to find it, and then Sentinel would follow with space bridge pillars. Megatron crashed sometime after 10,000 A.D.

Sentinel crashed on the Moon in the 1960's.

The Fallen was in hiding on one of Saturn's moons all along, waiting for the last Prime to die. Truly, Sentinel was the most dangerous of them all. He could've defeated The Fallen, and become a God as he saw himself.

This also fits with Sam going to robot Heaven in ROTF. They told Sam they had been watching him for some time. My guess is they knew what was going on but without a messenger to deliver said message, all they could do was watch and wait. If anything, this movie and all of it's story gives ROTF an even deeper meaning.

It is very upsetting to know that my favourite character Ironhide dies at the hands of that Schmuck Sentinel! I knew Sentinel is/was shady and not right... he lives up to his G1-G2 personality. At the time, I could not place my finger on Sentinel but I knew something bad was gonna happen and it revolved around Sentinel. I heard rumours about Ironhide being killed but it was unknown by who. When I read the Spoiler about Ironhide being killed, it bothered me, but as I read onward thru all the responses from othres about Optimus and his hidden personality just does not see right to me. Nevertheless, who am I to Judge a character. I too grew up w/Transformers, as I got older; I kinda forgot them and grew up. After seeing, the movies rekindled my interest in Transformers again. I went to BotCon and it was a blast from my stand pointe. I fell in love w/Transformers again. I went out and bought an used 2006 Black TopKick exactly like Ironhide, w/a plate that has Ironhide on it, I had the Autobot emblem added to the tailgate(no, it's not the same GMC TopKick from BotCon), mine looks much nicer. I was gonna take my TopKick w/me to the Theatre to watch DOTM. I talk to my TopKick like it's Ironhide... I won’t feel right getting into Ironhide now that he's dead... I have been in tears over reading it and im glad that I did read it. I won’t be so shocked over his death now in the movie. I probably will breakdown and cry afterwards, after it hits me a few hours after watching the movie sitting in my (TopKick) "Ironhide". What am I to do now? My Favourite Character is dead, I was thinking of taking my TopKick to the next BotCon where ever it is gonna be held at, now I don’t think I will, however, I will take the Chevy Volt AKA Jolt(blue car like the character Jolt) instead and leave my TopKick at home in Phoenix. In the original movie, the Arrival to Earth song and scene, is stirring to me every time I hear it over the speakers in eithre vehicle or the Semi-Truck, even on the laptop, I tear up every time. I sing the part Ironhide emerges from the Pool then trans-scans the owners TopKick and rolls out. Ironhide will always be my Favourite Character Dead or Not... he's yesterday’s model, built to last! The biggest protector...and that Stupid, Crappy, Betrayer Sentinel kills him!! Sentinel is no Prime to me...he is a CON ! I am Glad that Optimus Prime Kills Sentinel !! He deserves it!! My poor Ironhide, I love you!! I sit in Vegas in a Truck Stop, I drive a Semi-Tractor Trailer which I call Optimus Prime!

I loved the film but there was one thing that bugged me. Why would any human want to be a slave? Other than that it was great IMO.

Dylan had betrayed humanity, he'd been tried for treason and literally crimes against humanity. He was all in when it came to Sentinel shafting humanity. Any deal they would give him would likely be better than what we'd do to him. He had no where to go but up. That's why he likely stayed on the course as it was the only path he knew.

It is very upsetting to know that my favourite character Ironhide dies

Yeah I'm a huge Ironhide fan. He died in atleast 3 continuities now(probably more, G1/IDW comics/bayverse for sure.possibly in animated as his fate was unclear...which also involved cosmic rust.). His death here felt lot like his death in G1, as he was mercilessly slaughtered. It's tough to watch as I had a bad feeling about it. I heard rumors he didn't survive, and was worried he was going fall to the dreads. I was like ok, he made it out of the woods there then BLAM. Like G1 he probably isn't coming back from it as there wasn't much left of him. (In Dark Awakening his body was destroyed.) Likely why they used cosmic rust to kill him so Prime couldn't just use the matrix to fix him quickly removing any tension for his death.

His death definitely dimmed my enjoyment of the film. Like why couldnt we just had the twins(it'd give them a purpose to shield more likeable characters if we had have autobots go down.) offed instead as now autobots were down yet another heavy hitter since Sentinel Prime defected. He atleast gets to lay down the law on the cons one last time before he goes out.

This was easily my favorite incarnation of good old Ironhide. I loved playing as him in the Revenge of the fallen game because of that. They nailed Jazz, and Ironhide...Prime really short on second in commands in this universe.

People complained about the TWOK line being used by Sentinel, but I found no problem with it at all. It actually fit this storyline. Considering how massive Cybertron is compared to Earth, and God only knows how many Cybertronians are on it, we clearly were the few and they were/are the many.

I will say, Sentinel was one vicious sumbitch. He was more ruthless than Megatron and The Fallen, really. Megatron didn't beg, The Fallen didn't beg, even Starscream didn't beg and he was a coward.

An amazing story though. It's going to be hard to imagine that in two years there WON'T be a new TF movie. I've been at this for so long now, I'm just used to it. lol

I know they've no reason to, but I'd like to see Hasbro keep up with the movieverse and create figures in movieverse design. Plus, with Generations/Classics/Universe still alive, they could give us a Blackout and/or Bonecrusher when they get to it.

I really hate to see this series end.

ok everyone else has pretty much covered the good so ill just stick with the bad.

it was **** BORING in places.

seriously a good 45 min couldve been knocked off it and it wouldve been a much tighter film.

editing wise it was all over the place and as a result had no tension, drama or intrigue.

hell they tried for that but forgot they told us the bloody ansers in the first 5 min of the film and speaking of that they spent too much time on stuff that didnt bloody matter while FLYING through stuff that merited a bit of concentration.

its fecking criminal that the trailer did a better job building tension and AWE on the scenes with the moon landing than the film did.

unsurprisingly for a flim called "transformers" its at its best when they bother their arse to actually focus on them. the action is alot more fluid and detailed with virtually none of the shakey cam effect of the others an the last act battle scene is really the best part of the whole show.

yes theres still **** all characterisation going on outside those necessary to further the plot but at least guys like sideswipe get more than one line now.

that said there is some good stuff from the humans, mcbastard was great as a villain. even somewhat sympathetic as he was trapped in his postion by his families prior commitiments to the deceps , and mcdormand was great as galloway 2.

but all in all its another film that'll play better on DVD when ya can skip whole swathes of it.

ive enjoyed the action and the spectacle but im glad bays gone after this. he was starting to repeat himself (look at the highway scene) and TBH never really got the character side of things at all, which is what seperates TF from go bots.

cant wait for the reboot and hope we do as well as the batman franchise did after burton.

Autobot032 wrote:People complained about the TWOK line being used by Sentinel, but I found no problem with it at all. It actually fit this storyline. Considering how massive Cybertron is compared to Earth, and God only knows how many Cybertronians are on it, we clearly were the few and they were/are the many.

I will say, Sentinel was one vicious sumbitch. He was more ruthless than Megatron and The Fallen, really. Megatron didn't beg, The Fallen didn't beg, even Starscream didn't beg and he was a coward.

An amazing story though. It's going to be hard to imagine that in two years there WON'T be a new TF movie. I've been at this for so long now, I'm just used to it. lol

Dude, we're agreeing multiple times in a week.

I waited to read this after I saw the film, very well written Ryan!

JacobPGalvatron wrote:So after orchestrating the whole plot to drain earth of all it's resources and possibly rip the planet apart by having cyberton and earths gravity collide, not to mention the thousands of human deaths from the invasion and the murders of all the humans HELPING the deceptions, megaton deserves a second chance when asks for a truce AND keep his army?


You're nuts. That's like having bin laden coming to help us in conflict and ask the US for truce.

See, that's one of the things I hated about the Generation 2 comic. Megatron wiped out THE HUMAN RACE. Completely decimated the planet. Prime's strategy? Let's recruit him, because there's a bigger threat. Forget that. Megatron tried creating a truce here, and Prime did what he should have done there: he took him down for his crimes.

Now, in the real world, the idea of taking in a human despot as a prisoner would have been possible, but Megatron would only be held so long. I mean, he survived his last death, why would a prison stop him?

Yeah, Prime is brutal in these movies, but he was pretty brutal in the Animated one, too.

Loved the movie. They took out ironhide no way didnt like that. Love the fact that some things were in slow mo so you can really ger the feel of it. I would now like my 25000 dollars because the twins were in the movie for a few seconds. At the beginning when the autobots come back to base you can see they are the last two on line driving in. Where do I collect? I really need this money.

i loved Eps line during the colapsing building with the decepticon worm scene, i don't recal it word for word, but i'm pretty sure it went something like this....... "The Decepticons allways get the good sh*t!!!".....LOL!!... funny....

Roadbuster was obviously meant to have a Glaswegian accent (probably a Celtic supporter too, judging from his colours!) and whoever wrote his dialogue is obviously familiar with the way us Scots speak; I laughed out loud when he said "I WILL BOTTLE YOU!"

Leadfoot sounded like he was meant to be cockney.

insanity 22 wrote:I loved the film but there was one thing that bugged me. Why would any human want to be a slave? Other than that it was great IMO.

Me. Not for any other human, but for an advanced alien race, hell yeah I would.