Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:People were offended by the Twins for actually using terms like ehhh "**** taco" and the like combined with the attitude.
Nitro Zeus never actually said anything like that he just had a tough guy voice like many other Decepticons in any other continuity do.
The article still doesn't answer my question: Were the Twins specifically identified as black? Either by themselves on screen, or with exposition by other characters? If not, then all this racism stuff is just other people's opinions. One that I don't share. And Kurtzman's backpedaling is just response to the reaction. I don't think he would have said that if no one said anything about the Twins.william-james88 wrote:Here is an article all about skids and mudflap, enjoy :
http://www.slashfilm.com/no-one-wants-t ... nsformers/
The screen writer even owned up to their embarassement of what they saw onscreen:Kurtzman: It’s really hard for us to sit here and try to justify it. I think that would be very foolish, and if someone wants to be offended by it, it’s their right. We were very surprised when we saw it, too, and it’s a choice that was made. If anything, it just shows you that we don’t control every aspect of the movie.
To me Nitro Zeus came off like a punk-ass thug. That has nothing to do with race. It has to do with lack of intelligence. I agree that more people should be going "what the hell is the problem with the writers for putting this kind of character on screen?" but not because the caricature is offensive. Because it's a waste of screen time, serves no purpose to the story, and thus feels like stealing my money as a paying viewer of the movie.Its cool if you are not offended. I wasnt offended, just annoyed at the use of annoying earth based charicatures for alien robots (doesnt matter if Nitro was acting like a gangster or a celebrity, both are annoying charicatures). But I was curious as to how skids and mudflap had people reacting, when Nitro Zeus doesnt. I personally found all these characters annoying, Mowhawk included.
Rodimus Prime wrote:To me Nitro Zeus came off like a punk-ass thug. That has nothing to do with race. It has to do with lack of intelligence. I agree that more people should be going "what the hell is the problem with the writers for putting this kind of character on screen?" but not because the caricature is offensive. Because it's a waste of screen time, serves no purpose to the story, and thus feels like stealing my money as a paying viewer of the movie.william-james88 wrote:Its cool if you are not offended. I wasnt offended, just annoyed at the use of annoying earth based charicatures for alien robots (doesnt matter if Nitro was acting like a gangster or a celebrity, both are annoying charicatures). But I was curious as to how skids and mudflap had people reacting, when Nitro Zeus doesnt. I personally found all these characters annoying, Mowhawk included.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Also Mohawk was still talking after being blown up do you guys think me might still be alive then?
I don't care what other people do. I liked the Combaticons in the original comics and considering Bay's penchant for the military, I'm surprised he hasn't put them in yet, being a military group and all. I want to see them on screen because they had alt modes that could actually be useful to the story of fighting aliens on Earth, as well as the concept of Bruticus, even though we have seen how disastrously the combiner concept was handled in Bayverse.Deadput wrote:Why should the Combaticons get on the screen anymore then all the others people clamor for even though their going to get angry due to not matching with their nostalgia just like with Hot Rod.
Given their attitudes when they were released, they were typical thugs who would serve the purpose of destruction and combat against the Autobots, the reason for which Megatron wanted them released.Rodimus Prime wrote:They were supposed to be total badasses.
Were they? Because they clearly weren't because the Decepticons besides Megatron were not the main villains of the movie since that would belong to Quintessa.
Yeah, some parts definitely make you feel that way. But so did the other movies, didn't they? For me, the parts with the Autobots bantering and Cogman and Edmund Burton outweigh the pointless jackassery of the Decepticons and TRF.william-james88 wrote:can anyone tell I really want my money back from watching this film?
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, some parts definitely make you feel that way. But so did the other movies, didn't they? For me, the parts with the Autobots bantering and Cogman and Edmund Burton outweigh the pointless jackassery of the Decepticons and TRF.william-james88 wrote:can anyone tell I really want my money back from watching this film?
And, considering the credit scene, I look at TLK as the 1st part of a story, so some things are supposed to be left unanswered and kind of pointless. Hopefully the writers can pick up the slack for the next film and make the pointless parts in this film worth it.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, some parts definitely make you feel that way. But so did the other movies, didn't they? For me, the parts with the Autobots bantering and Cogman and Edmund Burton outweigh the pointless jackassery of the Decepticons and TRF.william-james88 wrote:can anyone tell I really want my money back from watching this film?
And, considering the credit scene, I look at TLK as the 1st part of a story, so some things are supposed to be left unanswered and kind of pointless. Hopefully the writers can pick up the slack for the next film and make the pointless parts in this film worth it.
breacher wrote:take these movies for what they are, movies marketed to a younger audience
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:He knew of the staff because she was using him and the cons to get it, but then she used Optimus as either a backup plan or when he fell into her lap, Megatron became the backup, which makes sense seeing as how he dropped in after Optimus broke from the corruption.
Insurgent wrote:I liked Megatron. I liked Barricade. I liked Izzy.
william-james88 wrote:Insurgent wrote:I liked Megatron. I liked Barricade. I liked Izzy.
Thats great, it means you liked at least 30 minutes of this 2+hour film, which is the amount of time they are on screen combined
My Parents (mostly my father, with mom agreeing) wrote:Izzy's useless, she brought nothing to the movie in terms of plot. Sqweeks is just there for the kids. Megatron's group was unnecessarily/overly 'gangsta'. How many more times can we do the whole 'save the Earth' shtick? Let them go into space or something. Go back in time, tell the story of the Great War.
The movie wasn't bad, action was great. Writing wasn't the best, there was a lot of forced comedy, like they were trying too hard to be funny.
Overall, I enjoyed the movie. It was a little better than AoE. I liked Anthony Hopkins, and the Knights thing, though the 12 Knights should have done more. Cogman was fun, design was a bit too C-3PO-ish. Hope he comes back in future movies.
Sigma Magnus wrote:Feel free to ask any of my opinions on specific stuff from the movie! I haven't seen it enough or had enough time to fully collect my thoughts.
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