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Burn wrote:The **** was that?
10 years before Kirk...Spock...THE ENTERPRISE? They're just going to disregard the actual show called ENTERPRISE?
And that's some fancy CGI ... bet it costs a lot! Yep, this isn't going to last, not because of bad ratings, but because it won't turn a profit.
Burn wrote:You completely missed my point...
Stuartmaximus wrote:Not really a Star Trek thing
Stuartmaximus wrote:Someone wanna promote Sto to chief Oracle or Curator of anything Star Trek![]()
coz he seems to only wake from his slumber to answer any questions or queries posted on this page! and in doing so....finding fault within the question/query ect
mind you.....to his defence....he seems to be the ONLY one that's answering questions/queries on hereof late.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
there are other examples of time displaced artifacts fading away s when history is changedInsurgent wrote:Ablative armour that the defiant and Promethius used is different to what Voyager got from the future. Their armour is more like thick hull plating that gradually gets worn down from impacts, designed to be broken down without having the actual hull integrity being compromised. But once it's been worn out and gone, it's direct hits to the hull and then the ships get into trouble.
And Future Janeway never faded away. She was assimilated by the Borg, but then her virus screwed up the collective which meant she and most drones collapsed and died (it was implied). To my memory, Star Trek has never done the whole 'time travellers fade away when the timeline changed'. They've either died, gone back to the future or remained in the present.
Except for that one episode in TNG season 1 or 2, where we got a second Picard from the wormhole and the exploded Enterprise. He vanished when they broke free from the wormhole. But apparantly that was meant to be a test by Q (never stated on screen, but was author intent) so..... normal rules can't be reliably used.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Stuartmaximus wrote:Discovery to get Mirror Universe ep
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-discove ... e-episode/
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:there are other examples of time displaced artifacts fading away s when history is changedInsurgent wrote:Ablative armour that the defiant and Promethius used is different to what Voyager got from the future. Their armour is more like thick hull plating that gradually gets worn down from impacts, designed to be broken down without having the actual hull integrity being compromised. But once it's been worn out and gone, it's direct hits to the hull and then the ships get into trouble.
And Future Janeway never faded away. She was assimilated by the Borg, but then her virus screwed up the collective which meant she and most drones collapsed and died (it was implied). To my memory, Star Trek has never done the whole 'time travellers fade away when the timeline changed'. They've either died, gone back to the future or remained in the present.
Except for that one episode in TNG season 1 or 2, where we got a second Picard from the wormhole and the exploded Enterprise. He vanished when they broke free from the wormhole. But apparantly that was meant to be a test by Q (never stated on screen, but was author intent) so..... normal rules can't be reliably used.
Stuartmaximus wrote:Discovery to get Mirror Universe ep
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-discove ... e-episode/
Your question confused me a bit, and I'm not trying to be argumentative I just want to make sure I am I answering correctlyInsurgent wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:there are other examples of time displaced artifacts fading away s when history is changedInsurgent wrote:Ablative armour that the defiant and Promethius used is different to what Voyager got from the future. Their armour is more like thick hull plating that gradually gets worn down from impacts, designed to be broken down without having the actual hull integrity being compromised. But once it's been worn out and gone, it's direct hits to the hull and then the ships get into trouble.
And Future Janeway never faded away. She's was assimilated by the Borg, but then her virus screwed up the collective which meant she and most drones collapsed and died (it was implied). To my memory, Star Trek has never done the whole 'time travellers fade away when the timeline changed'. They've either died, gone back to the future or remained in the present.
Except for that one episode in TNG season 1 or 2, where we got a second Picard from the wormhole and the exploded Enterprise. He vanished when they broke free from the wormhole. But apparantly that was meant to be a test by Q (never stated on screen, but was author intent) so..... normal rules can't be reliably used.
When? Things like first contact and the bell riots were because the crew went into an alternate timeline. Not because of dissapearing things from the past.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
thanks for clearing that up, wake me to think of starting to show my age because I can't remember things as well as I used to or recall them anyway so give me a few days and I might be able to compile a list but right off the back I can give you want exampleInsurgent wrote:When things disappeared because of a change in timeline. In tue film first contact, the crew saw an assimilated earth because they jumped timeline. In the episode with the bell riots, starfleet disappeared because the defiant jumped timelines. City on th edge of forever, the landing party lost starfleet because they jumped timeline. Srorm front, the nx jumped timelines. And so on. I'm not being argumentive either, I'm just curious as each event i can think of in trek where something disappeared was because the crew jumped timeline. Not because something disappeared in our timeline like that episode with two picards in tng season 2, which is the only time i can think of someone disappearing because of a change without jumping timelines, which i believe was my original point
Enterprise's series 3 ep E2 with the future nx doesn't count because we don't know if that ship disappeared or was destroyed.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
I get what you're saying but I don't consider it "iffy" because the hair didn't disappear because the ship was that Scheels but because that small container broke,but I will say that it actually further complicates the issue and he was the reasonInsurgent wrote:I forgot about that. And I'm currently going through Voyager, just started season 5. And I always loved Year of Hell.
I'll give you that one, although it is a bit iffy as it was on the Time ship that was outside the timeline. If it wasn't protected, like Voyager before they got their temporal shielding in place, it would have dissapeared because they jumped timelines to a timeline where she didn't exist so it should have dissapeared then. So it could be argued that it dissapeared because the ship jumped timelines, it was just a 200 (or was it 2000?) year lag.
How many times can I say timeline? Lol.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Insurgent wrote:Oh! I got one! The defiant finds that colony of their descendants but old odo stops the ship going back in time and the colony vanishes.
So i guess we can say it's not the usual trek way of disappearing but it does sometimes happen.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Stuartmaximus wrote:Anyone watched The first 2 episodes of Discovery yet?
Burn wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Anyone watched The first 2 episodes of Discovery yet?
Yes
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Burn wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Anyone watched The first 2 episodes of Discovery yet?
Yes
Well what did you think
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