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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Can't recreate the scene without a proper Megatron anyway, and we'll never get that. The designers pretty much said so.

This is the closest they will likely ever allow.

Gut red is made of garbage materials!

ZeroWolf wrote:Still think Rachete is great for the price. Ironhide is a pleasant surprise being a new mold.

correction: Ratchete

Looks like I wasted my money on that pricy exclusive ER version. At least I have Prowl and Lifeline to show for it.

I mean it's about all I could hope for and, possibly, the final work on Ironhide. But it stings that they didn't get this right the first time around.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Looks like I wasted my money on that pricy exclusive ER version. At least I have Prowl and Lifeline to show for it.

I mean it's about all I could hope for and, possibly, the final work on Ironhide. But it stings that they didn't get this right the first time around.

Ebay sell it fast! Get tons of money!

I'm not sure it would be affected too much because it still has G1 Prowl that you cannot get elsewhere. Sure it probably won't command the uber ridiculously high prices it is/was currently but I suspect it will still be quite high and certainly more than Retail.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't have a problem with the robot mode of the ER figure, it was the vehicle mode. So if we do get a brand new SS86 Ironhide/Ratchet mold, that's what needs to be fixed.

Same here, since I keep them all displayed in Bot mode this is the part that concerns me most and both ER Ratchet and Ironhide are okay in that dept. Yes, the alt mode is what truly look bad so it would have to be all new ground up in that regard for it to be a major improvement.

That said, I do like the new chest being slightly more toon accurate. However, I'm not thrilled he's now at a Voyager price point. I personally can't see any difference from Siege/ER mold in terms of complexity/engineering to justify Voyager price. And since I already invested a lot of time and money tracking down the 2-pk I don't feel good about rebuying him.

Personally I'd have preferred they used this opportunity to get G1 Hound knocked out and revisit IH another time.

I have Siege Ironhide & Ratchet and I'm very happy with their bot mode. I cancelled my Earthrise preorders of the two because Hasbro didn't change the stupid feet. I got DK Guard for the same Earthrise mold experience anyway...

So this SS86 Ironhide & the possible Ratchet: It's all about the alt mode for me to MAYBE rope me in. I said MAYBE because with the ridiculous prices, I'd rather look at my MP Ironhide whenever I want to "vroom vroom" with a red van.

william-james88 wrote:Crazy to think that there was a time when there were no decent G1 style Ironhide molds outside of one convention exclusive redeco. But now, not only do we have a G1 mold with the Siege toy, plus a more G1 accurate G1 mold with the Earthrise retool we now have an EVEN MORE accurate G1 mold with the upcoming Studio Series 86 toy. You can see the first image of it below. It's a cropped out image of the robot mode but it gives us a good enough idea that the mold is new. So, if this is indeed the toy we are getting, would you be replacing your Earthrise version? And most of all, are you glad that you no longer have to chase down that Earthrise version?

One last bit, we do not know the original source for the image so if you are the owner, let us know.

Color me intrigued. Skipped Siege and Earthrise, so this may be my Ironhide.

Maybe it's the image, but that Ironhide looks derpy NGL.

From what I can see, I’m calling it that the feet are the top-rear section of the van. There is just enough of a diagonal from the top of the feet towards the “toes”, plus under the “toes” are hinges;
I’m betting the panels under the bot feet unfold to become the back of the van.
Just looked at a couple photos, & the back of the van of the original toy and the animation model show the back being completely flat.
All this to say it looks like the foot issue of the previous versions have been resolved.
Another reason I may get this version is because there’s not nearly as much greebling!!

I get the SS86 aesthetic, but he looks TOO cartoony to me. I have both Siege Ratchet and Ironhide, and will stick with those. Love the bot modes, really interesting and different transformation, and the feet hanging off the back aren't as jarring on a cybertronian vehicle as they are on an Earth vehicle.

Yeah.... not really tempted by this Core class Ratchet. I'll stick with the Siege/Walgreens version for now.

The Ironhide looks like a heavily modified version of the ER mold. The weapon looks similar at least. We must wait and see more...

OMG!

WHAT IF RATCHET IS CORE CLASS SO WE CAN RECREATE THIS ANIMATION ERROR?

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:OMG!

WHAT IF RATCHET IS CORE CLASS SO WE CAN RECREATE THIS ANIMATION ERROR?

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That is Core class Ratchet.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:OMG!

WHAT IF RATCHET IS CORE CLASS SO WE CAN RECREATE THIS ANIMATION ERROR?

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That is Core class Ratchet.

I know. I was saying what if they made him like that for this scene.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:OMG!

WHAT IF RATCHET IS CORE CLASS SO WE CAN RECREATE THIS ANIMATION ERROR?

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That is Core class Ratchet.

I know. I was saying what if they made him like that for this scene.

Oh. I doubt it, but Starscream did get a new release with a bunch of accessories just for 1 scene, so I guess its not impossible. I would also say that Hasbro is not into homaging animation errors, but we also got Hauler, and mini Shockwave, so maybe?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:OMG!

WHAT IF RATCHET IS CORE CLASS SO WE CAN RECREATE THIS ANIMATION ERROR?

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That is Core class Ratchet.

I know. I was saying what if they made him like that for this scene.

Oh. I doubt it, but Starscream did get a new release with a bunch of accessories just for 1 scene, so I guess its not impossible. I would also say that Hasbro is not into homaging animation errors, but we also got Hauler, and mini Shockwave, so maybe?

Then we NEED a titan class ultra magnus!
note: (I've already posted about core class ratchet animation error some time ago, we've already discussed this! )

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:OMG!

WHAT IF RATCHET IS CORE CLASS SO WE CAN RECREATE THIS ANIMATION ERROR?

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That is Core class Ratchet.

I know. I was saying what if they made him like that for this scene.

Oh. I doubt it, but Starscream did get a new release with a bunch of accessories just for 1 scene, so I guess its not impossible. I would also say that Hasbro is not into homaging animation errors, but we also got Hauler, and mini Shockwave, so maybe?

Then we NEED a titan class ultra magnus!
note: (I've already posted about core class ratchet animation error some time ago, we've already discussed this! )

I'll also want a tiny Hoist and a big Huffer

Well, bring on Prowl, Ratchet and Brawn!

So a core Hoist and a titan huffer eh?

ZeroWolf wrote:So a core Hoist and a titan huffer eh?

No, an transformable headmaster size posable figure of hoist!

I hope Core Ironhide and Voyager Ratchet aren't exclusives.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I hope Core Ironhide and Voyager Ratchet aren't exclusives.

Same

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I hope Core Ironhide and Voyager Ratchet aren't exclusives.

Same

They definitely could be
But I hope not, cause I need a Ratchet!

I really like Siege Ironhide, and still consider him the definitive G1-ish Ironhide. ER went backwards, and this one looks like it continues that trend. I really wish his voyager slot would have gone to someone else, just like Starscream's leader slot

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I really like Siege Ironhide, and still consider him the definitive G1-ish Ironhide. ER went backwards, and this one looks like it continues that trend. I really wish his voyager slot would have gone to someone else, just like Starscream's leader slot

We must be looking at two different pictures, cuz I think he looks better than either of those. Still, this is early, so I'm willing to reserve judgement until we get better visuals.