Not an excuse, just making an observant comparison.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:On the other hand, Takara caring so little about the MP humans also kinda seems like a reflection of the fandom, in how a large chunk of it cares so little about human characters in general, especially in the movies.megatronus wrote:With all the effort that goes into this line, it's kind of a slap in the face how little Takara actually cares about making the humans look like actual human beings.
That's a pretty lame excuse for poor workmanship... (especially since these are G1, not movie, designs...)
When Takara puts so much effort into making the exo-suit itself look sharp and accurate, you can't tell me it's okay for the human head to look like a melted crayon because the fans don't care about human characters.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by megatronus Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:38 pm
Sabrblade wrote:Not an excuse, just making an observant comparison.megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:On the other hand, Takara caring so little about the MP humans also kinda seems like a reflection of the fandom, in how a large chunk of it cares so little about human characters in general, especially in the movies.megatronus wrote:With all the effort that goes into this line, it's kind of a slap in the face how little Takara actually cares about making the humans look like actual human beings.
That's a pretty lame excuse for poor workmanship... (especially since these are G1, not movie, designs...)
When Takara puts so much effort into making the exo-suit itself look sharp and accurate, you can't tell me it's okay for the human head to look like a melted crayon because the fans don't care about human characters.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Blasphemous Prime Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:56 pm
Why is Takara selling to Ebay scalpers before retailers?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by shajaki Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:55 pm
takara sells directly to scalpers first. a widely known fact in the fandom.Blasphemous Prime wrote:Has this been delayed again? I've had my preorder on BBTS moved to a december release. What gives?
Why is Takara selling to Ebay scalpers before retailers?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Insurgent Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:48 pm
Blasphemous Prime wrote:Has this been delayed again? I've had my preorder on BBTS moved to a december release. What gives?
Why is Takara selling to Ebay scalpers before retailers?
Kapow have boxed theirs up to ship to preorders on monday, so its not delayed from takaras end.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by LOST Cybertronian Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:59 pm
Blasphemous Prime wrote:Has this been delayed again? I've had my preorder on BBTS moved to a december release. What gives?
Why is Takara selling to Ebay scalpers before retailers?
Hobby Link Japan started shipping theirs out yesterday or so. BBTS will be getting theirs in soon enough.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by shajaki Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:31 am
i kinda doubt that, most people have the opposite reaction to this set... keep an eye on ebayMoonshot wrote:Bumblebee looks great but I only want the exo-suit Spike. Don't want to pay the whole price for that and I know it will be hard to find just Spike.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by superchook6909 Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:34 pm
But it was Daniel that transformed in the movie. Either way, it's up to the collector to decide who is in the suit.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Hero Alpha Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:56 am
superchook6909 wrote:Daniel or Spike? Doesn't matter, as both Father and Son wore an Exo-Suit.
But it was Daniel that transformed in the movie. Either way, it's up to the collector to decide who is in the suit.
Don't matter to me who is in it, I just want it. The figure looks to be younger than what Spike would be but either way. Wasn't there another exo-suit figure a while ago?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by shajaki Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:07 am
yes, i dont recall the details, but i think said company went bankrupt before they could produce them.Moonshot wrote:Don't matter to me who is in it, I just want it. The figure looks to be younger than what Spike would be but either way. Wasn't there another exo-suit figure a while ago?superchook6909 wrote:Daniel or Spike? Doesn't matter, as both Father and Son wore an Exo-Suit.
But it was Daniel that transformed in the movie. Either way, it's up to the collector to decide who is in the suit.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Robogeek1973 Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:31 pm
So excited!
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Cyberpath Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:04 pm
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st11879140
My MP-21 shipped earlier today, it will take some time.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Prime Riblet Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:37 pm
Cyberpath wrote:Ambitron from TFW2005 painted one of the faces silver (I was hoping to snag an extra face and do the same actually) -- looks great doesn't it? Really brings out the details:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st11879140
My MP-21 shipped earlier today, it will take some time.
Strangely, that one simple change made a ton of difference for me. My opinion of the figure is immensely more positive. Doubt that I will be a buyer, but he actually looks pretty amazing with the silver face.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Diem Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:35 pm
masterpiece-bumblebee-review-p1626510.php#p1626510
Also officially the figure that comes with Bee is Spike.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Robogeek1973 Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:21 pm
Spike is so so.
If his face was painted I'd like him more though.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Blasphemous Prime Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:55 pm
like people are saying, Spike does need customizing in the face though. I think I'll add a 5 o'clock shadow to differentiate him from Daniel. I'll be doing a review on him tonight. Stay tuned...
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Cyberpath Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:55 am
Can't stop looking at this figure. Probably the MP I was excited for the most, after Optimus Prime. This is so well done, Hasui is an artist. I'm glad that his last figure was this iconic character, finally! (And who knows, maybe they'll lure him back to do a new Megatron.)
I wanted this for a long time. And the toy is even better than I had expected, I think some pix didn't do it justice. In fact, he's so awesome that by the time I transformed him I had almost forgotten about Spike in the box. (But I like Spike, the exosuit is pretty clever, actually!)
Now bring on Ironhide.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by shajaki Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:56 am
still waiting for mine, but i figured as much. all those complaining about his size, i thought "small package, big fun"! cant waitwilcosu35 wrote:i've had my bumblebee for a week now, and i can't help but marvel at what a fun little dude he is. he looks great, and the transformation is just so simple and nice to do, no irritating parts whatsoever
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by Agent-539 Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:14 am
shajaki wrote:still waiting for mine, but i figured as much. all those complaining about his size, i thought "small package, big fun"! cant waitwilcosu35 wrote:i've had my bumblebee for a week now, and i can't help but marvel at what a fun little dude he is. he looks great, and the transformation is just so simple and nice to do, no irritating parts whatsoever
They've done a very nice job with Bumblebee. I noticed that BB has a symbol on his hands. Not sure what it is. Thought at first it was a Cybertronian jet, then his Cybertronian mode but now I'm gonna have to look at him again to figure it out.
Anyone else notice the figure?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
Posted by fenrir72 Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:48 am
Agent-539 wrote:shajaki wrote:still waiting for mine, but i figured as much. all those complaining about his size, i thought "small package, big fun"! cant waitwilcosu35 wrote:i've had my bumblebee for a week now, and i can't help but marvel at what a fun little dude he is. he looks great, and the transformation is just so simple and nice to do, no irritating parts whatsoever
They've done a very nice job with Bumblebee. I noticed that BB has a symbol on his hands. Not sure what it is. Thought at first it was a Cybertronian jet, then his Cybertronian mode but now I'm gonna have to look at him again to figure it out.
Anyone else notice the figure?
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Isn't that WJ's number in his Lancia mode?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee Discussion
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