Optimizzy wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:Optimizzy wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Seriously? We're almost a decade removed from kiss play and there are still pearl clutching reactions to it. Get over it.
Gosh. There are so many potential rebuttals to that. Anyway. I stated my opinion. Not going to argue to justify it.
If you aren't going to argue to justify it then don't be surprised when nobody takes it seriously. Either put up or shut up. Preferably the latter.
I'm not sure what everyone's complaining about really. I mean yes, Kiss Players was creepy as all f*ck, but these pictures? It's just the old Kiss Players driver figures sitting in Magnus. Nothing suspect or suggestive or creepy about it, just "LOL, cute girls driving the Magnus armour!". Yuki probably had the toys on hand and thought "hey, these little figurines are perfectly scaled to be "driving" Ultra Magnus! That'd make for a funny pic!". I think all these comments about how the pics are "creepy" shows more of the desire to be offended of some of our board members than any lewd intent by Yuki.
But then I suppose I'm not the best person to comment on these things as I firmly believe that anyone who is honestly "offended" by anything needs taking out the back and shooting.
and here lies the problem. In my post I said did not attack anyone, nor did I say, "you are dumb for liking this." I said that I am tired of these kinds of photos. You are inferring so much with what I said that it is way too defensive.
And this is a free forum and we have the right to tell you that your opinion is garbage. You of course have the right to tell me I'm wrong for thinking that, of course, because that's how free speech works.
So you're tired of seeing these kinds of photos yet you give no real justification for why beyond "Bawww kiss players!". Can you not see why that would be seen as confrontational and pretty damn stupid?
But ok. Here goes.
Oh boy, this is gonna be fun.
If people are still irritated by KISS PLay they have a right to be. They do not HAVE to "get over" it.
They don't HAVE to but they probably should and can expect ridicule if they don't. It's been, what, 9 years now? That's more than enough time to get over something. Kiss Players didn't rape you or murder your family. You've probably never even read it.
It was a stupid part of the fandom. It should never have been greenlit and the idea that it keeps popping up is a sign of the maturity level of the guy who likes it.
I don't think "making a brief visual gag with some appropriately sized figures" equates to actively endorsing Kiss Players, nor does it say anything about the "maturity level" of TFYuki.
I DO NOT want to offend anyone, and honestly, I think that's the litmus test. If you look at the words I type and are offended then get a grip. If you really have to reply to my two sentences with two paragraphs then man, get over yourself.
I am not "offended". Being offended is for lesser, weaker people. Nevertheless I find it ironic that you tell me I'm overreacting for taking the time to post two paragraphs in response to your two sentences when said two sentences were posted in response to a harmless picture.
The above is OPINION. I'm sure there are guys on here that see no problem with KISS Play or these photos. I have NO problem with them. They like it, that is cool. They are free to like it. They are free to say "I like this." Just as I am free to say " I don't like this."
Maybe, but that doesn't deny them their right to say "you're an idiot" for getting overly worked up about a harmless image.
But that guy looks at my post and says "that's just his opinion." And he is right. My opinion does not invalidate anyone else's. It is just my opinion.
You also have an awfully obnoxious way of voicing said opinion.
And if I feel like posting it, Damnit I will. If I don't want to go over the tired and often cited reasons why I feel that way, then I don't have to.
Then once again, expect ridicule. If you're going to make a loaded statement like "Ugh I'm so tired of these images" then you'd better be ready to back it up.
This is not a scientific process, nor a court of law. I do not have to justify or provide proof to my opinions. They are based on feeling. If I eat pistachio Ice Cream and don't like it, do I have to explain why?
Now you're just repeating yourself and making me do the same, which is something I hate.
Come on guys. Let's not pick everyone's opinion to death just because you disagree.
F*ck that noise. If you can't handle criticism then don't make loaded statements.