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by **mblase75** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:03 am

WeatherManNX01 wrote:Sadly, Takara gets a points deduction for keeping with the regular Combiner Wars hands and feet while Hasbro gets the new extremities.

Disagree. I like the custom feet and fists, but I don't like how they can't be integrated with the individual figures the way the HFG can.

News Credits: 79 · by **Sigma Magnus** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:10 am

WeatherManNX01 wrote:Sadly, Takara gets a points deduction for keeping with the regular Combiner Wars hands and feet while Hasbro gets the new extremities.

That's why I'll be going with Takara and the Perfect Effect upgrade kit. A few extra dollars, but well worth it.

News Credits: 2 · by **Mr Skram** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:16 am

Crap. Might have to get both.

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:19 am

You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:22 am

These two figures are so different I definitely want to get both, just not sure if I can afford to. --There was a video on Youtbe where a couple of fans actually compared all 3 releases of Devastator (CW, UW, and SDCC) --While overall the UW version was probably better for its additional weapons, and additional pose ability, they did show how Takara missed some opportunities on the paint scheme.

This is how I feel about Computron. UW is clearly better. But the Hasbro version hand/feet, plus the two additional members make him worth purchasing. Additionally the mold use differences really make these two very unique.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:37 am

william-james88 wrote:You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

Exactly, now everyone there is just going to kinda roll their eye's during the presentation of how amazing hasbro's computron is and then bombard them with questions about whether the new hands and feet can be sold individually.

I wonder if hasbro picks up on being able to make a decent profit on them if they might make a run of hands and feet in black and white for us to use... I doubt it :-?

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:37 am

I'm sold. This is the one Takara gestalt I'm buying. Hasbros is beautiful too but I should get one Takara combiner.

News Credits: 2 · by **Rodimus Knight** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:38 am

I just don't understand why Hasbro uses cheap variations on already existing combiners, and Takara remakes the original ones. Better why why doesn't hasbro just wait until the Takara version is done and use that.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:42 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

Exactly, now everyone there is just going to kinda roll their eye's during the presentation of how amazing hasbro's computron is and then bombard them with questions about whether the new hands and feet can be sold individually.

I wonder if hasbro picks up on being able to make a decent profit on them if they might make a run of hands and feet in black and white for us to use... I doubt it

Considering the vocal fandom online are a fraction of the over all fandom and the fans who go for Takara stuff are also a fraction of the fandom Hasbros Computron will sell just fine.

Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:51 am

Randomhero wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

Exactly, now everyone there is just going to kinda roll their eye's during the presentation of how amazing hasbro's computron is and then bombard them with questions about whether the new hands and feet can be sold individually.

I wonder if hasbro picks up on being able to make a decent profit on them if they might make a run of hands and feet in black and white for us to use... I doubt it

Considering the vocal fandom online are a fraction of the over all fandom and the fans who go for Takara stuff are also a fraction of the fandom Hasbros Computron will sell just fine.

Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

I never said it wouldn't sell well, I just said people would be rolling their eye's while hasbro tries to hype theirs, knowing there's a vastly superior version that's been revealed already

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:51 am

Still hoping for an Abominus combiner set that has all new, actual beasts instead of yet more Stunticon remolds.

Still, it might be worth getting the CW Computron just to take the hands and feet, paint them silver, and give them to Bruticus...

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:55 am

This looks beautiful. I want it. :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:55 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

Exactly, now everyone there is just going to kinda roll their eye's during the presentation of how amazing hasbro's computron is and then bombard them with questions about whether the new hands and feet can be sold individually.

I wonder if hasbro picks up on being able to make a decent profit on them if they might make a run of hands and feet in black and white for us to use... I doubt it

Considering the vocal fandom online are a fraction of the over all fandom and the fans who go for Takara stuff are also a fraction of the fandom Hasbros Computron will sell just fine.

Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

I never said it wouldn't sell well, I just said people would be rolling their eye's while hasbro tries to hype theirs, knowing there's a vastly superior version that's been revealed already

Fans have been rolling their eyes since the first forum came up. Who cares what those people think?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:03 am

DeathReviews wrote:Still hoping for an Abominus combiner set that has all new, actual beasts instead of yet more Stunticon remolds.

Gonna be waiting a while for that >:oP

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:04 am

Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:07 am

william-james88 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:11 am

I do like to think that once Fun Pub saw CW breakdown they said "looks like we know who one of our Botcon 2016 figures is! G2 BREAKDOWN!" And then they saw G2 Menasor.... :lol:

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:12 am

Randomhero wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

No way is breakdown weaker than the first release of hasbro MM, that thing was disgusting

News Credits: 4837 · by **william-james88** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:13 am

Randomhero wrote:I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

Same here. But man, if you hate that breakdown mold then you would not be happy at Botcon. Turns out 3 of the exclusives use that mold and they cost 50$ each. Ouch!

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:22 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

No way is breakdown weaker than the first release of hasbro MM, that thing was disgusting

It still worked. I just acquired the fixed version of motor master literally 2 weeks ago. I had the one with messed up legs for 11 months and I didn't have problems with him. He still stood up fine and managed to do some good poses. I only picked up a second because I saw it at a store, checked the code and said "sure why not"

It is better I won't deny but I certainly wouldn't say some bad ratchets makes him completely awful. Again had it for almost a whole year.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:27 am

Randomhero wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

No way is breakdown weaker than the first release of hasbro MM, that thing was disgusting

It still worked. I just acquired the fixed version of motor master literally 2 weeks ago. I had the one with messed up legs for 11 months and I didn't have problems with him. He still stood up fine and managed to do some good poses. I only picked up a second because I saw it at a store, checked the code and said "sure why not"

It is better I won't deny but I certainly wouldn't say some bad ratchets makes him completely awful. Again had it for almost a whole year.

Funny, I can say the same thing about my pair of breakdowns (him and 'streaker), so I guess we'll agree to disagree

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:34 am

For me it's all how he looks. His body is really long and rectangular with theses wide legs and narrow arms. He's just not very attractive to me. Makes a great limb though so it balances out. Personally I have always liked the character of breakdown. He's the one stunticon that stood out when they showed up in the cartoon because the first time he spoke he was hesitant about joining the decepticons and that just stuck with him. I was just a little bummed with how he turned out in CW

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:35 am

The only change I would make to Unite Warriors Computron is making Afterburner just a touch more orange-red. That would put it over the top for me. Something akin to Hasbro's color choice, but even a shade redder, would do the trick. Otherwise, this looks amazing. Kudos, TakaraTomy!

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:40 am

Yeah, Takara's is the way to go on Computron for me. Not just for the extra love on each individual and Computron's torso: the hands and feet also do me in. It would bug the living crap out of me to have all my combiner's have the standard HFGs, and then here comes Hasbro's Computron with dedicated hands and feet throwing off the symmetry!

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:45 am

Mindmaster wrote:Yeah, Takara's is the way to go on Computron for me. Not just for the extra love on each individual and Computron's torso: the hands and feet also do me in. It would bug the living crap out of me to have all my combiner's have the standard HFGs, and then here comes Hasbro's Computron with dedicated hands and feet throwing off the symmetry!

Just tell yourself he invented them to give him enhanced combat abilities :-P