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News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:23 pm

A silly question but who are mp 29 and mp 30? I know one of them is shockwave...

Also I like him a lot with the advent of these new shots. :-)

by **MelRains** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:23 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:I say it again. MP28s greatest strength is making MP9 look good.

I couldn't disagree more. I think this guy shows everything wrong with MP9 and how much better Takara's MP designs have gotten since then.

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:49 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:A silly question but who are mp 29 and mp 30? I know one of them is shockwave...

Also I like him a lot with the advent of these new shots.

Shockwave anr ratchet. And MP 31 is Optimus Primal!

Ironhidensh wrote:I say it again. MP28s greatest strength is making MP9 look good.

He does make MP9's robot mode look good.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:51 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:A silly question but who are mp 29 and mp 30? I know one of them is shockwave...

Also I like him a lot with the advent of these new shots.

It looks like 29 is Shockwave and 30 is Ratchet.

[Edit] Sniped by WJ!!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:58 pm

Thanks guys, completely forgot about rachet for a moment there :lol:

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:38 pm

Rewatched the movie.

Other than the red gap thing on the torso in robot mode - the toy is actually pretty cool after giving it another look.

I'd buy it, if I hadn't missed the boat on other earlier MPs

News Credits: 2 · by **munkimus prime** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:47 pm

Hotrod still looks fine to me.

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:48 pm

Amelie wrote:Rewatched the movie.

Other than the red gap thing on the torso in robot mode - the toy is actually pretty cool after giving it another look.

I'd buy it, if I hadn't missed the boat on other earlier MPs

I started late (just last year) with my MP collecting, but there are enough reissues out there that I was able to buy everything at retail prices or just about. You could do the same.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:49 pm

munkimus prime wrote:Hotrod still looks fine to me.

Same here. :WRECKERS:

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:52 pm

william-james88 wrote:I started late (just last year) with my MP collecting, but there are enough reissues out there that I was able to buy everything at retail prices or just about. You could do the same.

Considering it, thats for sure. The more expensive ones like Grimlock, Prime, Starscream might be a bit tough to afford, but maybe I can stretch to them for Christmas or something

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:56 pm

Amelie wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I started late (just last year) with my MP collecting, but there are enough reissues out there that I was able to buy everything at retail prices or just about. You could do the same.

Considering it, thats for sure. The more expensive ones like Grimlock, Prime, Starscream might be a bit tough to afford, but maybe I can stretch to them for Christmas or something

Those are the ones that intimidate me, but Ratchet and Wheeljack are the ones I am really going for, though Hot Rodimus and some others are on my list too. (Oh and Shockwave.)

Edit: If Hasbro doesn't come out with a voyager Rodimus Prime in the TR line soon to go with Galvatron, I'll probably get the MP Hot Rodimus since they seem to scale well.

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:57 pm

Amelie wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I started late (just last year) with my MP collecting, but there are enough reissues out there that I was able to buy everything at retail prices or just about. You could do the same.

Considering it, thats for sure. The more expensive ones like Grimlock, Prime, Starscream might be a bit tough to afford, but maybe I can stretch to them for Christmas or something

Prime is still at retail price. I would recomend getting him first in your list of priorities because once he is no longer at retail, the aftermarket prices will be murder. We've lived through it before.

Places to get him:

http://hlj.com/product/TKT39840/Sci

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/10 ... issue.html

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:00 pm

Cyberpath wrote:

Its pics like these that still make me hesitate. I dont mind the backack so much but him having such a tiny waste makes any pose using the waist swivel look terrible.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:05 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:

Its pics like these that still make me hesitate. I dont mind the backack so much but him having such a tiny waste makes any pose using the waist swivel look terrible.

It doesn't look terrible, just more toy-like. >:oP

Doesn't look bad to me, just less Gundam-like. Though I wish Masterpieces had the same if not more articulation than the "Build Fighters Build Burning Gundam", I am reasonable.

Like LegendaryAntiHero on Facebook · by **LegendaryAntiHero** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:20 pm

Agreed but I wonder if Gundam joints can hold the weight of the thick plastic Matserpiece Transformers use

News Credits: 2 · by **Prowl4** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:34 pm

Going to pre order this on Monday or Tuesday really love the look of it.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:56 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:

Its pics like these that still make me hesitate. I dont mind the backack so much but him having such a tiny waste makes any pose using the waist swivel look terrible.

It doesn't look terrible, just more toy-like. Doesn't look bad to me, just less Gundam-like. Though I wish Masterpieces had the same if not more articulation than the "Build Fighters Build Burning Gundam", I am reasonable.

Depends on the actual full figure design. Gundams don't transform while TF......

Like LegendaryAntiHero on Facebook · by **LegendaryAntiHero** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:51 am

So far, I like the most recent picture of the new Hot Rod better than the others

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:50 am

fenrir72 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:

Its pics like these that still make me hesitate. I dont mind the backack so much but him having such a tiny waste makes any pose using the waist swivel look terrible.

It doesn't look terrible, just more toy-like. Doesn't look bad to me, just less Gundam-like. Though I wish Masterpieces had the same if not more articulation than the "Build Fighters Build Burning Gundam", I am reasonable.

Depends on the actual full figure design. Gundams don't transform while TF......

Some Gundams do transform ;-)

though it didn't become a thing till zeta Gundam aired (which broadcast in the era where macross had really populised transforming mecha in Japan)

by **wilcosu35** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:00 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Some Gundams do transform though it didn't become a thing till zeta Gundam aired (which broadcast in the era where macross had really populised transforming mecha in Japan)

Some do indeed, but as an ex-collector of gundam models, i can tell you that most transforming ones are quite flimsy and fiddly, and not a pleasure to transform. They're best left in 1 form. I even went so far as to buy doubles, for mecha mode and alt mode.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:09 am

wilcosu35 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Some Gundams do transform though it didn't become a thing till zeta Gundam aired (which broadcast in the era where macross had really populised transforming mecha in Japan)

Some do indeed, but as an ex-collector of gundam models, i can tell you that most transforming ones are quite flimsy and fiddly, and not a pleasure to transform. They're best left in 1 form. I even went so far as to buy doubles, for mecha mode and alt mode.

Oh I agree, I remember how fiddly my 1/144 scale gundam wing kits were, with wing zero being a nightmare, the 1/100 scale version managed to be worse somehow.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:11 pm

wilcosu35 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Some Gundams do transform though it didn't become a thing till zeta Gundam aired (which broadcast in the era where macross had really populised transforming mecha in Japan)

Some do indeed, but as an ex-collector of gundam models, i can tell you that most transforming ones are quite flimsy and fiddly, and not a pleasure to transform. They're best left in 1 form. I even went so far as to buy doubles, for mecha mode and alt mode.

Yeah even the transformable Master-grade guys from Bandai are pretty junky and fiddly from what I've heard. If I get any Gundams, they'll probably be the non-transformable ones with the great articulation like in the build fighters line. Now this is about Takara Masterpiece Hot Rodimus, not Gundam, so let's get back on topic before Burn or William get upset.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:20 pm

wilcosu35 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Some Gundams do transform though it didn't become a thing till zeta Gundam aired (which broadcast in the era where macross had really populised transforming mecha in Japan)

Some do indeed, but as an ex-collector of gundam models, i can tell you that most transforming ones are quite flimsy and fiddly, and not a pleasure to transform. They're best left in 1 form. I even went so far as to buy doubles, for mecha mode and alt mode.

And that answers your questions. The example wj88 used is a "non transformable" type. It is easy to proportionally design non transformable figs. Zeta Gundam, Wing-0 and ZZ (it's a combiner of sorts and I do own the MG versions are designed within their own structure and not built around an earth vehicle with wheels like Hotrod. Hotrod's shape is, well you get my drift while a Gundam is proportional already.

News Credits: 4862 · by **william-james88** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:23 pm

To be clear I never mentioned gundam. All I said is that with such a bulky top, hot rod looks way off as soon as the waist swivel is used.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:29 am

william-james88 wrote:To be clear I never mentioned gundam. All I said is that with such a bulky top, hot rod looks way off as soon as the waist swivel is used.

My bad. It was SS :HEADHURTS: