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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:57 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:In regards to texture/smoothness, the CGI model did have a furry texture:

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It was just that his fur happened to always be extremely well-groomed. ;)


That's a weak excuse, they could mold more fur on the mp figure, the show version only had that because of cg constraints...
My point is that the show model did have fur and wasn't as solidly smooth-surfaced as this unfinished render looks.


Oh, that, yeah, that was a render without the texture layer active;
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Overcracker » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:00 pm

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The hinges on beast mode look strange. Though to be honest the original mold had them too. Not sure how much of an improvement over the original Convoy mold this is going to be.

But as it stands IMHO, the Telemocha SP-DX Convoy is still the best version of the Primal mold to date.
Great silver and glossy red paint. All the accessories and features including the mutant head/mask.

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Still will have to wait for a final product image before passing final judgement.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:04 pm

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Overcracker wrote:But as it stands IMHO, the Telemocha SP-DX Convoy is still the best version of the Primal mold to date.
Great silver and glossy red paint. All the accessories and features including the mutant head/mask.
If only that one had included the Beast Wars Reborn version's show-accurate head and chestplate.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Evil Eye » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:54 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:In regards to texture/smoothness, the CGI model did have a furry texture:

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It was just that his fur happened to always be extremely well-groomed. ;)

Let's look at it this way; at least they're not using actual fake fur on the figure. Primus what a mess that would be.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:06 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:In regards to texture/smoothness, the CGI model did have a furry texture:

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It was just that his fur happened to always be extremely well-groomed. ;)

Let's look at it this way; at least they're not using actual fake fur on the figure. Primus what a mess that would be.


And expensive :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Overcracker » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:47 pm

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Overcracker wrote:But as it stands IMHO, the Telemocha SP-DX Convoy is still the best version of the Primal mold to date.
Great silver and glossy red paint. All the accessories and features including the mutant head/mask.
If only that one had included the Beast Wars Reborn version's show-accurate head and chestplate.


You can always mix and match for the perfect version. If you have both. Though the silver on the chest plate may not match.

The Chest / gorilla head is easily swappable. And the Head can be unscrewed.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:53 pm

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So I just noticed that o/p has a joint in the collar to allow his arms to flex forward in beast mode, this could easily be the most dynamic mp released as far as articulation goes :shock:
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Robogeek1973 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:47 pm

Yup, I'll be ordering this guy for sure.


I'm not worrying about exposed robot bits in beast mode because let's face it, there's no way they can cover up all of those bits without making this guy one big panel former.

As for his fur, I'm sure they give it some texture so it'll look better.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Emerje » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:03 pm

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My only three real complaints:

1) His bot mode head seems a little too big. Hopefully it'll be slightly smaller next time.

2) It seems like there's a button on his back. Please don't give this figure the same gimmicks as the original. No spring loaded flip up missile launchers and no lame arm swinging action.

3) How the hell did they mess up his feet so badly in both modes? The original figure did a really good job with the feet and this feels like a step back. They should be able to hide the other mode's feet better than this.

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:03 pm

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Emerje wrote:My only three real complaints:

1) His bot mode head seems a little too big. Hopefully it'll be slightly smaller next time.

2) It seems like there's a button on his back. Please don't give this figure the same gimmicks as the original. No spring loaded flip up missile launchers and no lame arm swinging action.

3) How the hell did they mess up his feet so badly in both modes? The original figure did a really good job with the feet and this feels like a step back. They should be able to hide the other mode's feet better than this.

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1 - seems proportionate enough, but the longer I stare at it, the less sure I am

2 - please please please don't ruin this figure with that crap :PRAY:

3 - it may be to allow him to stand up in beast mode; I overlooked rattraps kibble for this reason, I can overlook it on o/p...
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Zeedust » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:39 pm

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I'll take it however it comes out, because it's apparently all we're gonna get.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby william-james88 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:06 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:I'll take it however it comes out, because it's apparently all we're gonna get.


You can always get the one that came out last year:

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:12 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:I'll take it however it comes out, because it's apparently all we're gonna get.


You can always get the one that came out last year:

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Or the other one that came out last year:

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby william-james88 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:17 pm

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Yup, there are plenty of options. No one should feel forced to buy a toy. And plus from these early renders, it doesnt seem like such an extreme update.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Ultra Markus » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:17 pm

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so whats so special about this that the 10th anniversary one doesn't have
even though the 10th anniversary is from the original toy it was still very show accurate
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:22 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:so whats so special about this that the 10th anniversary one doesn't have
even though the 10th anniversary is from the original toy it was still very show accurate


A show accurate head, the disparity between the toy and show models is quite large, having never owned any version of the toy, the only thing I have or nostalgia is the show, so that's what I want from my show accurate o/p >:oP
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Cobotron » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:24 pm

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I have a feeling this thing will be large too. I'd guess at least MP-10 size.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby durroth » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:59 am

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Remember this is far from a prototype, or the final product. What worries me is what looks suspiciously like a switch in the middle of his back on the wireframe. I don't want my MP to have chest beating action. So far it looks alot like an update of the original figure transformationwise, and I don't think it will be as smooth when it's finished.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:43 am

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durroth wrote:Remember this is far from a prototype, or the final product. What worries me is what looks suspiciously like a switch in the middle of his back on the wireframe. I don't want my MP to have chest beating action. So far it looks alot like an update of the original figure transformationwise, and I don't think it will be as smooth when it's finished.


Yeah, it's the render with the texture layer unselected :-B
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby durroth » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:09 am

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yeah, I know that. I mean that sooner or later the texture is probably going to be sculpted onto the mesh, since you can't really print out/make a mold out of texture files and normal maps.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby MemphisR56 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:39 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:I'll take it however it comes out, because it's apparently all we're gonna get.


You can always get the one that came out last year:

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This is the one I might be getting for Christmas.

It has the new head and chest of the 10th anni version, but how does it stack up to the telemocha in terms of deco?

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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:57 am

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Yeah, at this point I am disapoint. :( Which sucks 'cause I love me some Beast Wars. It looks nice, but not Masterpiece nice. It feels like a generations style update to me, and I'm not paying MP prices for a generations toy.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:06 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, at this point I am disapoint. :( Which sucks 'cause I love me some Beast Wars. It looks nice, but not Masterpiece nice. It feels like a generations style update to me, and I'm not paying MP prices for a generations toy.


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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:35 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, at this point I am disapoint. :( Which sucks 'cause I love me some Beast Wars. It looks nice, but not Masterpiece nice. It feels like a generations style update to me, and I'm not paying MP prices for a generations toy.


Be patient, a picture in a magazine is hardly the sweeping presentation that ironhide got...

But, I mean, what were you expecting? The original figure was already pretty much perfect, and had more gimmicks than most mp's have, do you want that dumb chest pounding gimmick kept or something?

This was clearly made to celebrate bw and to give us the o/p that was in the show; hopefully he'll have cool pop-out lasers and the rocket pack and stuff.
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Re: Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:10 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Yeah, at this point I am disapoint. :( Which sucks 'cause I love me some Beast Wars. It looks niceot Masterpiece nice. It feels like a generations style update to me, and I'm not paying MP prices for a generations toy.


Be patient, a picture in a magazine is hardly the sweeping presentation that ironhide got...

But, I mean, what were you expecting? The original figure was already pretty much perfect, and had more gimmicks than most mp's have, do you want that dumb chest pounding gimmick kept or something?

This was clearly made to celebrate bw and to give us the o/p that was in the show; hopefully he'll have cool pop-out lasers and the rocket pack and stuff.

What am I expecting? That depends on the final price, honestly. I simply will not pay a masterpiece level price point for A generations level figure
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