The Energon Pub

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:46 pm

The problem is, in order to easily add content (and modify existing content) you need a well organised, laid out and planned piece of code. This game is anything but that. There's variables and values all over the place if what we've been told is true, and that makes changing and improving the game *very* difficult, possibly to the point where OS was right, it really is easier to write a new game.

But that isn't the real problem. The real problem is Ryan's insistence that a new game will be quick to write/test/implement.... That and programmers insisting on having a life... lol

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:48 pm

Psychout wrote:*shrug*

The game will never be 'balanced' as its PvP. Ill conceed the one about the stats though, but the point is that the pressure to rewrite a new game whilst this one is so obviously incomplete is what breaks the programmers. Get this looking suitable shiny and then the pressure is off.

The way I see it, add a warmap to conquer/defend and give the players an achieveable (and repeatable) win condition, and then the game becomes less of a grind and more like an online game. At that point 99% of people will forget about V2 and get back to basics.

The current Autobot Savior supports this idea. I think that Hippy Kid with the brass sack will too.

News Credits: 42 · Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:05 pm

Redimus GTS wrote:The problem is, in order to easily add content (and modify existing content) you need a well organised, laid out and planned piece of code. This game is anything but that. There's variables and values all over the place if what we've been told is true, and that makes changing and improving the game *very* difficult, possibly to the point where OS was right, it really is easier to write a new game.

A warmap could be added as a normal page here and only needs to draw on the mission results in a definable way - i.e. it doesnt actually have to be coded into the game itself, just capable of reading and interpreting the results to any given mission.
So, all it needs to be is a larger graphical version of the current mission counter at the top of the registry that either: filters wins by mission #, like we do in tourneys (e.g: missions ending in 0=Kaon, 1=Iacon, 2=Tyrest etc.) or uses a clone of the special toruney missions code to label them as warmap misisons and recording the results (if doing it the hard way).

Remember the Warmap chess we all played a few years back?

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:26 pm

That's true. And it certainly could (should) work, for a short term fix. But it's a very sloppy and slapdash fix (which would fit into the current game programming rather well), which would only need one poorly chosen modification to the game code to be rendered utterly useless.

News Credits: 42 · Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:45 pm

Bloody pessimists. :lol:

This entire game has been a short-term fix for the last 5 years, a modification like this will either save the universe or divide it by zero.

Either way it will give the game some kind of goal - image us and the AWC warring over a zone, or actually having the cons obvious superiority visible in red and blue for all to see...
An actual win condition might also get some of those Arena dwellers out into the sunlight too.

Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:02 pm

I think the first new feature of HMW 2.0 is to make the game not bore me to tears. If the game wasn't boring as Hell more people would play it. Oh and if it were stable enough not to have a complete nuke or reset accidentally happen three times a year.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:07 pm

All these games are what the users make of them. You can program this game to represent almost anything, but if there isn't a community to enjoy it with and to build up the lore with, then it;s just a tedious text based grinding exercise. In the past this game really excelled at this, but thanks to many mistakes made by various people, it's lost that. At the moment this forum's very spammy, and that makes the forums a lot more fun, but hopefully it'll lead to more ingame community building too, which will help the game become more interesting.

Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:10 pm

Eh, you have a point. If the Autobots didn't hide in their private pillow fort and actually posted I probably wouldn't have gotten so bored. None of them trash talk. None of them post. It's like they don't know how to have fun. Not even the girls. And Girls Just Want To Have Fun.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:29 pm

I resemble that! I'm trying to lead my people out of their hovels and caves, but between that damn hippy kid and that whole "we're afraid of the big bad cons" thing... It's not easy being the autobot savior...

Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:56 pm

You need to teach them out to be a man. Even the women.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYfxIILz1tc[/youtube]

NSFW.

News Credits: 1 · Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:56 am

Awesome. Hmm... I need a woman with big titties to lead the Autobots then?

News Credits: 2 · Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:58 am

Absolute Zero wrote:Awesome. Hmm... I need a woman with big titties to lead the Autobots then?

I've tried to defect and they told me no.

News Credits: 1 · Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:21 am

Sustain wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:Awesome. Hmm... I need a woman with big titties to lead the Autobots then?

I've tried to defect and they told me no.

To bad. I'm starting a OBGYN practice in Iacon. I receintly graduated top of my class, magna cum laude, from University of Latvia. I apprenticed under the good Doctor, who also happened to be the head master of the U of L, and oddly, ruler of the country.

News Credits: 1 · Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:13 am

I'm sure I've met that guy before.... Always asking me to spot him 50p for a cup of coffee or the bus home....

News Credits: 1 · Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:54 pm

Are you sure it was him and not one of his doubles? Did he sing the Doom song? I've never seen Victor asking for anything... He usually takes it.

Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:10 pm

Dr. Doom is from Latveria, not Latvia. I know, he used to let me kick it there before Asgard moved to the skies above Chicago. Also before the batshit insane Superman Sentry destroyed the whole damn thing and killed me. I'm still bitter about a proxy Clark Kent killing me after I had solidified myself as a bad ass. If you're reading this Joey Q, I'm the one responsible for your donuts tasting like feces, but given the way you eat I really doubt you noticed you half witted lummox.

News Credits: 226 · Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:29 pm

I think it's safe to say his donuts have been tasting like feces since "Brand New Day"

News Credits: 1 · Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:39 am

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Dr. Doom is from Latveria, not Latvia. I know, he used to let me kick it there before Asgard moved to the skies above Chicago. Also before the batshit insane Superman Sentry destroyed the whole damn thing and killed me. I'm still bitter about a proxy Clark Kent killing me after I had solidified myself as a bad ass. If you're reading this Joey Q, I'm the one responsible for your donuts tasting like feces, but given the way you eat I really doubt you noticed you half witted lummox.

Latveria, Latvia, whatever. I still got my doctorate from there.

Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:35 pm

Where did all the level 0 "Cons go? I don't think I have had more then 2 missions where they showed up in force. Bunch of slackers

News Credits: 9 · Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:01 pm

Aerialbot Commander wrote:Where did all the level 0 "Cons go? I don't think I have had more then 2 missions where they showed up in force. Bunch of slackers

Maybe, they, have gone to lvl 1.

Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:58 pm

Editor wrote:
Aerialbot Commander wrote:Maybe, they, have gone to lvl 1.

Nice theory but somehow doubtful. Next theory?

Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:15 pm

Aerialbot Commander wrote:
Editor wrote:Maybe, they, have gone to lvl 1.

Nice theory but somehow doubtful. Next theory?

not really doubtful, considering the minimum lvl 1 build only requires 10k xp. but it could also come down to the time of day and there are those who prefer the arena to missions don't forget.

Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:25 am

Neo Crusader wrote:
Aerialbot Commander wrote:
Editor wrote:Maybe, they, have gone to lvl 1.

Nice theory but somehow doubtful. Next theory?

not really doubtful, considering the minimum lvl 1 build only requires 10k xp. but it could also come down to the time of day and there are those who prefer the arena to missions don't forget.

So your telling me that all the level 0 'Cons conspired together to level up all their soldiers to level 1 at the same time. Nah they couldn't be that cooridinated

I thought it would have been time of day as well but I was on all day yesterday and it was still happening. Which is funny because usually around mid-late afternoon is when the 'Cons would show up in numbers, but yesterday, nothing.

Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:12 pm

Aerialbot Commander wrote:
Neo Crusader wrote:
Aerialbot Commander wrote:
Editor wrote:Maybe, they, have gone to lvl 1.

Nice theory but somehow doubtful. Next theory?

not really doubtful, considering the minimum lvl 1 build only requires 10k xp. but it could also come down to the time of day and there are those who prefer the arena to missions don't forget.

So your telling me that all the level 0 'Cons conspired together to level up all their soldiers to level 1 at the same time. Nah they couldn't be that cooridinated

I thought it would have been time of day as well but I was on all day yesterday and it was still happening. Which is funny because usually around mid-late afternoon is when the 'Cons would show up in numbers, but yesterday, nothing.

We also have lives outside HMW!!

News Credits: 1 · Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:55 pm

Aerialbot Commander wrote:So your telling me that all the level 0 'Cons conspired together to level up all their soldiers to level 1 at the same time. Nah they couldn't be that cooridinated

Yeah, you're right. The con's couldn't be that coordinated... Could they? It's not like they're Autobots :lol:

I thought it would have been time of day as well but I was on all day yesterday and it was still happening. Which is funny because usually around mid-late afternoon is when the 'Cons would show up in numbers, but yesterday, nothing.

National Con holiday is my guess.