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I didn't know what colors these were going to be before reading this but I was really hoping for Shattered Glass colors. Just for some kind of modern version of Computron if only in color.

Alpha Weltall wrote:I didn't know what colors these were going to be before reading this but I was really hoping for Shattered Glass colors. Just for some kind of modern version of Computron if only in color.

Honest question, why were people expecting SG colors? There's no precedent for SG decos at mass retail, after all.

I suspected, if it was going to be a drastically different deco and not just a similar-but-different one (as they ended up doing, and it looks FANTASTIC by the way, translucency and all!), it'd be an homage to another beastbot combiner, like Monstructor.

RAcast wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:I didn't know what colors these were going to be before reading this but I was really hoping for Shattered Glass colors. Just for some kind of modern version of Computron if only in color.

Honest question, why were people expecting SG colors? There's no precedent for SG decos at mass retail, after all.

My guess is due to a redeco of Twinstrike in what kinda looked like SG Sinnertwin colors appearing briefly in the "Hunt the Beasts" interative game on Hasbro's website.

Seen here right after the 30 second mark:

Hun-Grrr himself seems a touch more Shattered Glass/G1 Scattershot rather than G1 Hun-Grrr, given the lack of dark gray, white not being as prominent, red instead of magenta, and red arms, feet, chest and, er, hips.

Meh. I'll go for the loose ones. They'll be out on display anyway, so why bother?

Megazarak wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:...one day hasbro will figure out how to do combiners again.

I honestly don't understand the hate that is going around about their combined form. It's a flippin' Legends-scaled figure for Chrissakes, you can't make something that small and expect modes to be as gorgeous as standard Deluxe or above.

Agreed. Not to mention it didn't have to be a combiner at all but just 5 separate Legion figures that happened to have similar names and appearances of Abominus's parts.

I'm really happy with these guys. They make for a great set of Legion figures and are also a pretty cool combiner (that even have weapons that can combine). I'll hopefully be able to get all the individual Legions as well as eventually get this set as well.

Honestly, I'm just happy to see more combiners. If for whatever reason (perhaps cost reasons) they can't make many combiners in larger scales it'd be great if they can make more in the Cyberverse scale, whether that's with Legions, Commanders and Legions or even all Commanders.

Remember those micromaster style guys that KB had, The ones that were homages to the G1 combiners? they were smaller than legends & were good combiners. It is possible to take any size figure and make a good combiner if you take the time & effort to do it,but hasbro is to damn lazy these days so they just slapped them together & ship it. But these days it doesnt matter what size they are, the last few combiners sucked. FoC Bruticus, the PCCs & ROTF Devastator all sucked, the individual figures for the most part were good but the combined forms were horrible. Hasbro is to cheap & lazy these days to make a good combiner. And remember if we keep accepting half assed crap thats all we're going to be stuck with for now on, if more people complained about the figures then maybe hasbro would get the hint and try a little harder.

Megatron Wolf wrote:

Megazarak wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:...one day hasbro will figure out how to do combiners again.

I honestly don't understand the hate that is going around about their combined form. It's a flippin' Legends-scaled figure for Chrissakes, you can't make something that small and expect modes to be as gorgeous as standard Deluxe or above.

Agreed. Not to mention it didn't have to be a combiner at all but just 5 separate Legion figures that happened to have similar names and appearances of Abominus's parts.

I'm really happy with these guys. They make for a great set of Legion figures and are also a pretty cool combiner (that even have weapons that can combine). I'll hopefully be able to get all the individual Legions as well as eventually get this set as well.

Honestly, I'm just happy to see more combiners. If for whatever reason (perhaps cost reasons) they can't make many combiners in larger scales it'd be great if they can make more in the Cyberverse scale, whether that's with Legions, Commanders and Legions or even all Commanders.

Remember those micromaster style guys that KB had, The ones that were homages to the G1 combiners? they were smaller than legends & were good combiners. It is possible to take any size figure and make a good combiner if you take the time & effort to do it,but hasbro is to damn lazy these days so they just slapped them together & ship it. But these days it doesnt matter what size they are, the last few combiners sucked. FoC Bruticus, the PCCs & ROTF Devastator all sucked, the individual figures for the most part were good but the combined forms were horrible. Hasbro is to cheap & lazy these days to make a good combiner. And remember if we keep accepting half assed crap thats all we're going to be stuck with for now on, if more people complained about the figures then maybe hasbro would get the hint and try a little harder.

Those were reissues of G1 micromaster combiners and they had alot of extra pieces to help them forma nice combiner.

for what they are and what they come with i like the abominus set. i do wish they would come with some extra pieces to make them look better like G1 combiners did. but im happy to get some combiners.

As long as they arnt more PCC's.

I don't know why people gotta be so picky. I think they look awesome.

Megatron Wolf wrote:Remember those micromaster style guys that KB had, The ones that were homages to the G1 combiners? they were smaller than legends & were good combiners.

No. Just, no. Stop right there. Did you ever buy any of those? Did you honestly believe that those were new/modern toy molds?

Those KB Toys Micromaster Combiners were anything but new. They were 1992 molds rereleased from Japan, and had as much combiner kibble as G1 Devastator.

Not to mention ZERO articulation outside of the shoulders and head, and that's only happenstance due to the toys' engineering rather than any forethought on their playability.

If anything, they were a step backwards compared to what we've gotten here. If you want parts-forming, inarticulate bricks for combiners, stop asking for new molds and go buy the 1984-1992 toys, cuz that's apparently what you're looking for.

But we have here is a modern day combiner formed with no parts-forming kibble, fully articulated, and visually recognizable as to who it's meant to resemble. Any valid criticisms of it would be in part due to its small size as a Cyberverse Legion class combiner. Any higher expectations for it are asking for way too much since it would take a larger size class to satisfy them. But that's not what these are and is not what we're getting. Don't like it? Fine. Don't like it because it's not GEEWUN? Tough.

Sabrblade wrote:If anything, they were a step backwards compared to what we've gotten here. If you want parts-forming, inarticulate bricks for combiners, stop asking for new molds and go buy the 1984-1992 toys, cuz that's apparently what you're looking for.

But we have here is a modern day combiner formed with no parts-forming kibble, fully articulated, and visually recognizable as to who it's meant to resemble. Any valid criticisms of it would be in part due to its small size as a Cyberverse Legion class combiner. Any higher expectations for it are asking for way too much since it would take a larger size class to satisfy them. But that's not what these are and is not what we're getting. Don't like it? Fine. Don't like it because it's not GEEWUN? Tough.

I couldn't agree more with your sentiment, Sabrblade. Seriously, the ONLY other combiner with three near-perfect modes in this scale was rotf Devastator, and it wasn't really articulated. And this is a HUGE step up from that. The only other combiners that HasTak have done that would be decidedly "better" would be the RiD/Car Robots and Energon/Super Link gestalts. Those were QUITE good, I agree, but they also had components that were bigger, which allowed greater intricacy. However, Build King was...kind of awkward in practice, with lots of kibble getting in the way of articulation, and Rail Racer, while AMAZING in combined mode, had to sacrifice the proper size of the individual robot modes.

Now, I'm sure we can all agree that FoC Bruticus is far from perfect, but he's hardly a train wreck. The official transformation is a train wreck, but there are PLENTY of ways to transform him to be both articulate and great looking, I've seen at least a few ways to make him look IDENTICAL to in-game shots and poses. The main problem with him was the weird budget thing that happened with the FoC deluxes, but they're getting away from that.

Please stop citing the G1 combiners and trying to say they're somehow "better," because they CLEARLY are not. They are BRICKS! They have no articulation, they partsform like HELL, and while I DO like G1 gestalts, every single modern combiner is years ahead of any of the G1 guys, for all of the obvious reasons.

RAcast wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:If anything, they were a step backwards compared to what we've gotten here. If you want parts-forming, inarticulate bricks for combiners, stop asking for new molds and go buy the 1984-1992 toys, cuz that's apparently what you're looking for.

But we have here is a modern day combiner formed with no parts-forming kibble, fully articulated, and visually recognizable as to who it's meant to resemble. Any valid criticisms of it would be in part due to its small size as a Cyberverse Legion class combiner. Any higher expectations for it are asking for way too much since it would take a larger size class to satisfy them. But that's not what these are and is not what we're getting. Don't like it? Fine. Don't like it because it's not GEEWUN? Tough.

I couldn't agree more with your sentiment, Sabrblade. Seriously, the ONLY other combiner with three near-perfect modes in this scale was rotf Devastator, and it wasn't really articulated. And this is a HUGE step up from that. The only other combiners that HasTak have done that would be decidedly "better" would be the RiD/Car Robots and Energon/Super Link gestalts. Those were QUITE good, I agree, but they also had components that were bigger, which allowed greater intricacy. However, Build King was...kind of awkward in practice, with lots of kibble getting in the way of articulation, and Rail Racer, while AMAZING in combined mode, had to sacrifice the proper size of the individual robot modes.

Now, I'm sure we can all agree that FoC Bruticus is far from perfect, but he's hardly a train wreck. The official transformation is a train wreck, but there are PLENTY of ways to transform him to be both articulate and great looking, I've seen at least a few ways to make him look IDENTICAL to in-game shots and poses. The main problem with him was the weird budget thing that happened with the FoC deluxes, but they're getting away from that.

Please stop citing the G1 combiners and trying to say they're somehow "better," because they CLEARLY are not. They are BRICKS! They have no articulation, they partsform like HELL, and while I DO like G1 gestalts, every single modern combiner is years ahead of any of the G1 guys, for all of the obvious reasons.

I love the both of you (not like that, bros).

Wowzers! After all the hoop-la about "what colors will they be, what colors will they be?" ....they go and give us this!

So glad I picked up all 5 individually already; they look 10x better than the Target exclusive.

Not liking the transparent plastic. I'll just grab the individual releases. Isn't transparent plastic more fragile?

RiddlerJ wrote:Not liking the transparent plastic. I'll just grab the individual releases. Isn't transparent plastic more fragile?

Y'know, outside of knockoffs I've never had any real issues with clear plastics.

RiddlerJ wrote:Not liking the transparent plastic. I'll just grab the individual releases. Isn't transparent plastic more fragile?

Y'know, outside of knockoffs I've never had any real issues with clear plastics.

Not sure I'd say this is an improvement, but it does look good. I'd say the best thing about this set is the convenience of not having to hunt down the individual figures. Instead, you just have the minor inconvenience of travelling to a Target store. (Brit talkin'. )

I'm so disappoint in this. Was looking forward to the more G1-ish decos

ScottyP wrote:I'm so disappoint in this. Was looking forward to the more G1-ish decos

Same here.

Why don't you guys just stick with your G1 figures and stop buying new ones?

GuyIncognito wrote:Why don't you guys just stick with your G1 figures and stop buying new ones?

But... I don't have the original Generation 1 toys nor do I have the funds to get them...

Mindmaster wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:Why don't you guys just stick with your G1 figures and stop buying new ones?

But... I don't have the original Generation 1 toys nor do I have the funds to get them...

Also, because bricks. I love the G1 Scramble City folk, but they just don't pose well.

Sodan-1 wrote:Not sure I'd say this is an improvement, but it does look good. I'd say the best thing about this set is the convenience of not having to hunt down the individual figures. Instead, you just have the minor inconvenience of travelling to a Target store. (Brit talkin'. )

Target exclusives do sometimes make it to the UK. Often as Toys R Us exclusives. Or maybe Argos.

Mindmaster wrote:

ScottyP wrote:I'm so disappoint in this. Was looking forward to the more G1-ish decos

Same here.

Aside from Hun-Gurrr, isn't that pretty much what the individual releases' decos are?

This gestalt is obviously all over the place with its lack of posibility and scale and whatever. But I don't really care, it looks like a ton of fun to mess around with. I love the fact that each of them have so many different peg holes, so you can create something that, who knows, might even look better than the Hasbrah recommended serving.

MINDVVIPE wrote:This gestalt is obviously all over the place with its lack of posibility and scale and whatever.

What lack of poseability? That thing is very poseable.