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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:14 pm

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And, it all depends on what your source is.

If it's some place that can actually back their claim on the info's legitimacy, then there's a good chance that it could be real. This is the kind of source that you want to get info from.

But if it's some place that posts info without proof (or without thinking that they need to show proof), then it would be harder to tell if that info were legit or not. An official source would have to confirm it. This is the one that call for some research to be doen before posting the info.

Then there's also those places that post absurd info that's outright obviously fake. Those are what should be avoided. (And I'm not saying that's what you've been posting, I'm just listing it as another type of source.)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:09 am

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Dont start that one up again :o)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:18 am

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Most of the Time i do my research through either Google or Yahoo.com

I type in like Animated Season 3
Animated Season 3 epsiode lists
when is Animated Season 3 going to be on TV

But from now on I will stick with

Seibertron
Unicron

and the toy place that has been providing Teaser Art

Also I think it is wierd that IGN.com hasnt even mentioned Animated Season 3 yet nor talked about it any.

All they have been discussing is the review of Energon DVD Box Set and also TF 2.

Also they talk about upcoming new toons such as Wolverine & The X Men which is going to be on Nickoldean and not CN which is wierd.

Right now I have been watching the new Gundam on Sci-Fi Gundam OO will it is not new but it is its 1st time in America.

Also I watch Moribto and Code Geass on CN along with Ben 10-Alien Force. But I hate Naruto the english dub is not done very good in that anime also the story lines seem crazy and do not make any sense at times.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:17 am

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Sabrblade wrote:His cartoon model is already in G1 colors. It's his toy that's not. He's not blue in the cartoon, he's gray. Only his toy is blue. He's red too, but it's just a darker shade.

Saying that Starscream's body should be done in G1 colors is like saying the same thing about Optimus, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Megatron, Blitzwing, Swindle, Blurr, the Dinobots, the Constructicons, Ultra Magnus, Jazz, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Ironhide, Omega Supreme, Wreck-Gar, Soundwave, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, the Liar clone, and... I can't think of anymore.

You surely must be colour blind, as G1 Starscream was white not grey. And the second half of your post was a completely unnecessary attempt at condescension, please don't do that.

Dead Metal wrote:They took the tech from him as they captured him in the episode which showed us that he was a zombie. A few episodes later Starscream escaped after they had taken what they needed.

Was there dialogue to this effect? Refresh my memory because I don't remember them saying anything at all. =/
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Pot Bot » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:49 am

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Tekka wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:His cartoon model is already in G1 colors. It's his toy that's not. He's not blue in the cartoon, he's gray. Only his toy is blue. He's red too, but it's just a darker shade.

Saying that Starscream's body should be done in G1 colors is like saying the same thing about Optimus, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Megatron, Blitzwing, Swindle, Blurr, the Dinobots, the Constructicons, Ultra Magnus, Jazz, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Ironhide, Omega Supreme, Wreck-Gar, Soundwave, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, the Liar clone, and... I can't think of anymore.

You surely must be colour blind, as G1 Starscream was white not grey. And the second half of your post was a completely unnecessary attempt at condescension, please don't do that.[/quote]


hmmmm forgive me if im wrong but all of those characters are in their G1 colours aint they???
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:04 am

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I am not pissed off cause my info was incorrect, I am pissed off cause when I do look up info or something that is news worthy concerning Animated S3 i get alot of flak & BS about it.

So that is why I am not researching any furhter into S3 or TF-Revenge of the Fallen.


That is because you never suply any god damn source for you claims. You just list stuff and demand everybody believes it and that it gets posted as news and wen asked were you got the info from you go:
"WTF?! Go look for it yourself if I worked hard in finding info on it you can do the same damn thing go look for it yourself and now front page it and don't you even dare question reports!"

Then you go and post the same damn list of made p TFA episode lists over and over again in ever god damn thread about TFA.

Then you get proven wrong about your insider info and you go all
"Oh NOES! There is no TFA S3 why do you hate me all!"


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Dead Metal wrote:They took the tech from him as they captured him in the episode which showed us that he was a zombie. A few episodes later Starscream escaped after they had taken what they needed.

Was there dialogue to this effect? Refresh my memory because I don't remember them saying anything at all. =/


It was mentioned in the summery of the Transformers Animated the Arrival #6.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:43 am

Tekka wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:His cartoon model is already in G1 colors. It's his toy that's not. He's not blue in the cartoon, he's gray. Only his toy is blue. He's red too, but it's just a darker shade.

Saying that Starscream's body should be done in G1 colors is like saying the same thing about Optimus, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Megatron, Blitzwing, Swindle, Blurr, the Dinobots, the Constructicons, Ultra Magnus, Jazz, Arcee, Cliffjumper, Ironhide, Omega Supreme, Wreck-Gar, Soundwave, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, the Liar clone, and... I can't think of anymore.

You surely must be colour blind, as G1 Starscream was white not grey. And the second half of your post was a completely unnecessary attempt at condescension, please don't do that.


G1 Starscream was a light Grey. Ramjet was white.

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery. ... =0&start=0

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery. ... &f_start=0

Not like it really matters. They made him darker than the G1 but it's still the same colors. How do you make White darker? You can't, so white becomes grey.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:08 pm

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Tekka wrote:You surely must be colour blind, as G1 Starscream was white not grey.


Surely you need a eye doctor because G1 Starscream was Grey not White. :o) :o) :o)

I was jokeing about the eye doctor but G1 Starscream was a light grey on the toon and not white.

Amytime you saw him with characters that were white you really could see the differences.

Here's a shot of Starscream with Red Alert.........you can make out the grey quite nicely.

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Saber Prime wrote:G1 Starscream was a light Grey. Ramjet was white.

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery. ... =0&start=0

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery. ... &f_start=0

Not like it really matters. They made him darker than the G1 but it's still the same colors. How do you make White darker? You can't, so white becomes grey.


I believe he's talking about the cartoon and not the toys.

But as you can see from the pic I posted above your still right.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:41 pm

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Okay, I give. You can have your marginally grey G1 Starscream. :P But the colour difference is still clear to see. Light grey (almost white), red and blue, do not equal dark grey, red and black.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:44 pm

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*Sniff Sniff* Damn I can smell a huge multy-page discussion on colour patterns coming from this Tekka.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:46 pm

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I don't have the drive to drag anything on that long. =(
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:49 pm

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Look, all I'm saying is that TFA Starscream is still in traditional Starscream colors, just in darker color shades.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:55 pm

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Tekka wrote:I don't have the drive to drag anything on that long. =(

You might not want to do so but other might :P

Who cares about Animated Starscream's colours, just look at his chin his chin of awesome destruction!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:14 pm

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Tekka wrote:Okay, I give. You can have your marginally grey G1 Starscream. :P But the colour difference is still clear to see. Light grey (almost white), red and blue, do not equal dark grey, red and black.


Your right about that :grin:

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Not from me :P
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:57 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:*Sniff Sniff* Damn I can smell a huge multy-page discussion on colour patterns coming from this Tekka.


Not from me :P

Yeah we already had one of those. I think it had something to do with the Seekers, Sunstorm, and Home Depot. One of the "SP vs. Sto" battles.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Pot Bot » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:00 pm

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sorry but in animated SS is bloomin blue!!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:36 pm

Tekka wrote:Okay, I give. You can have your marginally grey G1 Starscream. :P But the colour difference is still clear to see. Light grey (almost white), red and blue, do not equal dark grey, red and black.


Animated Starscream is not black. It's a dark Blue. Yes it does look quite black but so does the Joker's hair in the Batman animated series. (the one played by Luke Skywalker not the more cartoons.)

If you look at the "shine" on Starscream's hands, you can see they're blue.

Same with Joker's hair, you can see a "shine" of green. I'm not sure what to actully call that, other than shine. It's a lighter color ment to represent lighting on the character.

Let me know if you have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm not even sure how clear I'm being. I'll post pictures next time to show what I was talking about.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:00 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Yeah we already had one of those. I think it had something to do with the Seekers, Sunstorm, and Home Depot. One of the "SP vs. Sto" battles.


You got a good memory cause that was close to a year ago :grin:

Pottermus_Prime wrote:sorry but in animated SS is bloomin blue!!


You do know were talking toon and not toy right??????????

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Thats Grey not blue......you might need a eye doctor too :o)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Tekka » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:11 pm

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Tekka wrote:Okay, I give. You can have your marginally grey G1 Starscream. :P But the colour difference is still clear to see. Light grey (almost white), red and blue, do not equal dark grey, red and black.


Animated Starscream is not black. It's a dark Blue. Yes it does look quite black but so does the Joker's hair in the Batman animated series. (the one played by Luke Skywalker not the more cartoons.)

If you look at the "shine" on Starscream's hands, you can see they're blue.

Same with Joker's hair, you can see a "shine" of green. I'm not sure what to actully call that, other than shine. It's a lighter color ment to represent lighting on the character.

Let me know if you have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm not even sure how clear I'm being. I'll post pictures next time to show what I was talking about.

I am familiar with the convention, I watch more anime than I have cells in my body, but you're really clutching at straws here. Even if the shades are off by the tiniest of tiny margins. People are going to look at the "grey" on G1 Starscream and say "white", and they're going to look at the "blue" on Animated Starscream and say "black", because there is not enough of a distinction to make the difference plain. For all intents and purposes they are what they are closest to.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Pot Bot » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:12 pm

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yeah, bloomin blue is a colour, a shade of grey infact..............



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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:05 pm

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Pottermus_Prime wrote:yeah, bloomin blue is a colour, a shade of grey infact..............



lol


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Oh S@!+ your right!!!!!!!!!

About bloomin blue being a color.

But its not a shade of grey.
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And its not even close to how he's colored on the toon....
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But its much closer to the toys color
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:26 am

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In G1 Starscream is Red & White

In Animated he is Red Grey & Purple.

The Toy is Blue and Red with some Grey

The Toys never match their counterparts most of the time.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Rodimus2006 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:30 am

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In Armada starscream is completly Red except for his canopy top then he gets upgraded to Thundercraker and is then Blue.

In Energon he is Red and White.


about the same in Cybetron almost like his G1 counterpart.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:40 am

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Rodimus2006 wrote:In G1 Starscream is Red & White



In G1 Starscream is grey and white in both the toy and the cartoon....althou its different shades of grey.

In no way is G1 Starscream white.

Rodimus2006 wrote:In Armada starscream is completly Red except for his canopy top then he gets upgraded to Thundercraker and is then Blue.


He is not completly red in Armada.

He's red,grey and black.

You really need an eye doctor.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dead Metal » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:06 am

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I knew we would have a battle of colours here!
About the colour of G1 Starscream, his original toy has two versions,one that has white plastic and one that has light gray plastic! I can't remember which one came first though as it was a running change and one came first.
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