The Energon Pub

[Sabrblade]

I have this feeling after watching the teaser of "One Shall Rise" that Season 2 will be pretty dark compared to Season 1. Well, at least I'm hoping so. It would be a waste to bring Unicron now and kill him off immediately.

One more week for new episode. I can't wait!

I dunno, season 1 was pretty dark as it is. Or at least, episodes 1, 2, 4, 7, and 16 were, with the best episodes (12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 22, and 23) also having some dark tones to them. The problem with the other episodes isn't their lack of darkness, but their lack of engagement. There doesn't need to be more "darkness", but rather, more "gravitas". Gravitas is what made shows like Beast Wars, Animated, Masterforce, Beast Machines, and others so good. Thus far, Prime has only really granted this aspect to a few of its plots and characters (most of which began with the amazing episode 12), but it has improved since. Hopefully, we can get more of this in season 2, cuz it's what can help make this show a winner.

[Zequem]

I dunno, season 1 was pretty dark as it is. Or at least, episodes 1, 2, 4, 7, and 16 were, with the best episodes (12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 22, and 23) also having some dark tones to them. The problem with the other episodes isn't their lack of darkness, but their lack of engagement. There doesn't need to be more "darkness", but rather, more "gravitas". Gravitas is what made shows like Beast Wars, Animated, Masterforce, Beast Machines, and others so good. Thus far, Prime has only really granted this aspect to a few of its plots and characters (most of which began with the amazing episode 12), but it has improved since. Hopefully, we can get more of this in season 2, cuz it's what can help make this show a winner.

I know what you mean, and I guess I kind of phrased it wrong. Was supposed to say "even darker". I should really think more while writing, especially since English is "only" my third language.

Anyway, I'm already in love with this show, and I don't see any reason why they would suddenly start making terrible episodes when they've shown the potential of the show. If they bring more characters in season 2, I hope they really give them personalities (just like they've given all the other characters thus far) and don't just leave them to the background.

Ugh, I hope that made sense even slightly. I shouldn't write this late...

[5150 Cruiser]

Incredible. Absolutely incredibile. I can't remember the last time a TV show kept me on the edge of my seat like the lastest episode of Prime did. Part of me wants to head to Youtube right now and watch the remaining two episodes, but the other part welcomes the anticipation. Can't wait to see Unicron!

[Shadowman]

Incredible. Absolutely incredibile. I can't remember the last time a TV show kept me on the edge of my seat like the lastest episode of Prime did. Part of me wants to head to Youtube right now and watch the remaining two episodes, but the other part welcomes the anticipation. Can't wait to see Unicron!

There's three more episodes, and none of them are on YouTube.

[LadyBug]

Incredible. Absolutely incredibile. I can't remember the last time a TV show kept me on the edge of my seat like the lastest episode of Prime did. Part of me wants to head to Youtube right now and watch the remaining two episodes, but the other part welcomes the anticipation. Can't wait to see Unicron!

There's three more episodes, and none of them are on YouTube.

The first part of "One Shall Fall" is. It is part 1 of 3 last episodes of the series. It covers episodes 24, 25 and 26. So yes, there are only two more episodes if you are following the series weekly either by the Hub, Teletoons or youtube.

[Dead Metal]

Incredible. Absolutely incredibile. I can't remember the last time a TV show kept me on the edge of my seat like the lastest episode of Prime did. Part of me wants to head to Youtube right now and watch the remaining two episodes, but the other part welcomes the anticipation. Can't wait to see Unicron!

There's three more episodes, and none of them are on YouTube.

The first part of "One Shall Fall" is. It is part 1 of 3 last episodes of the series. It covers episodes 24, 25 and 26. So yes, there are only two more episodes if you are following the series weekly either by the Hub, Teletoons or youtube.

The 3 parter is entitled "One shall Rise", one shall fall is the episode before that.

[Sabrblade]

Incredible. Absolutely incredibile. I can't remember the last time a TV show kept me on the edge of my seat like the lastest episode of Prime did. Part of me wants to head to Youtube right now and watch the remaining two episodes, but the other part welcomes the anticipation. Can't wait to see Unicron!

There's three more episodes, and none of them are on YouTube.

The first part of "One Shall Fall" is. It is part 1 of 3 last episodes of the series. It covers episodes 24, 25 and 26. So yes, there are only two more episodes if you are following the series weekly either by the Hub, Teletoons or youtube.

The 3 parter is entitled "One shall Rise", one shall fall is the episode before that.

Yes. "One Shall Fall" is episode 23. "One Shall Rise" is the three-part finale consisting of episodes 24, 25, and 26.

Because of this confusion, I'm starting to not like how "One Shall Fall" ended on a cliffhanger like it did, as its fooling too many people into thinking that it's part 1 of the finale when it's more like a "part 0" prelude for the finale instead.

[Scatterlung]

Here's hoping Unicron wins and the whole second season sees both Bots and Cons using guerilla tactics to attack his Earthbound, possibly-undead empire, Beast Machines style.

[NatsumeRyu]

I'm not sure where to post this, but this thread seemed most appropriate. I have recently been looking for the stock render image of the vehicon/eradicon model. You know, with the white background. I saw it last about a month back, but now it appears completely gone off the internet. I went back to old news posts and the images are gone, I go to mirrored places where I initially saw the render, and it's gone...It's just really GONE now, it seems. I'm sure somebody must have saved it though, or it must be SOMEWHERE. The trick is just me finding it. So I've come here to this thread in hopes some one has it or knows where to find it.

To clarify, I don't need figure/toy images, and I don't need alt mode images. I'm specifically looking for the vehicon on a white background image (like they have prime, bee etc. on hub's site, and still have here in old news posts).

Thank you in advance for any help....

[Sabrblade]

^ I think I've only ever seen one for the Vehicons' altmode. I don't remember seeing one for Robot Mode. Do you recall where you might have seen one? It's a start but it might help.

[Zequem]

The only one I've seen recently is with a greyish background. Finding a one with white background has proved to be a challenge...

[Sabrblade]

The only one I've seen recently is with a greyish background. Finding a one with white background has proved to be a challenge...

Can you show me?

[Zequem]

This is the one I found...

[Sabrblade]

Whoa.

That is GORGEOUS!

They sure don't have that on the TFWiki.

As for where to find a white background one, no idea.

[Shadowman]

Okay, episode is on, notes begin NOW: MAJOR ASS SPOILERS:

-Bulkhead saves Optimus and lays a decent smack-down on Megatron.

-Earth isn't Unicron and no one ever said it was. There's just a ton of Dark Energon. Megatron says he can resurrect Unicron with it all...Unicron was dead? I guess the Original 13 did a lot more than just drive him off...

-"You guys killed a unicorn?" Miko is the first character to point out the similarity of "Unicron" and "Unicorn" in-universe.

-Did anyone tell June that you can't assume the Decepticons will leave them alone? She takes Raf home (Without Ground Bridge, not sure why) but Jack and Miko decide to stay.

-"Mother nature's got a twitch in her britches." Can...can you say that in a kid's show?

-Yeah, June should have taken that Ground Bridge.

-Oh, she survived. That preview really pulled a fast one on me.

-"But you're grounded 'till you're 30...25."

-Fowler is quite happy to see June....yeah.

-Oh ****...he lives...

-Optimus tells the old story, Primus vs. Unicron, as well as the involvement of the Original 13, including showing most of them.

-The design of the Core of Cybertron is VERY similar to it's design in

-Unicron's new design is pretty sweet, but I don't like how his horns are thicker where they meet his head.

-Earth isn't Unicron...Earth is AROUND Unicron, though.

-Unicron doesn't want Megatron's help...maybe he remembers the last time he hired a Megatron...he wants Optimus dead pretty badly, though.

-Unicron can form avatars out of the Earth itself. Awesome.

-Optimus tries to appeal to Unicron, saying that his resurrection would harm humanity, a species that exists because of him. Unicron doesn't care. Optimus shoots him down. Unicron doesn't care. He just makes more of him.

-Unicron is freaking AWESOME.

[prowl123]

This was one of the better episodes, but 'Partners' will always be my favorite.

Gasicron was cool. So was Rockicron.

My plays on the name Unicron will never end.

[crashhcourse]

Super duper awesome. Love how Optimus looks pretty jacked up already (coming off of "One shall Fall") and he still has 2 episodes to get thru! Things don't look good for the bots or us "parasites".

[Shadowman]

Okay, I had time to think about it, and I don't care for the size of Unicron's head horns, and also I don't care for the size of his shoulder horns. (Carry-overs from his design in Armada, of all places) it's not that I don't like either as part of his design; his head horns are an integral part of his design, and shoulder-horns are cool, it's just that I don't like the size of them. The rest of him is cool.

Anyone manage screen caps of the Original 13?

[iaconportland]

One Shall Rise thoughts

Well, that was certainly interesting, wasn't it? I'm liking the concept of Unicron being surrounded by Earth. I've never heard of that storyline being used in any of the continuities. Also, didn't expect such an early physical confrontation between Optimus and what I'm calling Unicron's Heralds. It will be interesting to see how this all develops, and what role Megatron will play in the outcome...

One thing: What on earth (no pun intended) made Optimus thought Unicron would bow to logic and reason? Maybe we should rename him "Optimist" Prime...lol

[Shadowman]

One Shall Rise thoughts

Well, that was certainly interesting, wasn't it? I'm liking the concept of Unicron being surrounded by Earth. I've never heard of that storyline being used in any of the continuities. Also, didn't expect such an early physical confrontation between Optimus and what I'm calling Unicron's Heralds. It will be interesting to see how this all develops, and what role Megatron will play in the outcome...

They're not really heralds. The Fallen is a herald, Shokaract is a herald, Galvatron was a herald. Those weren't heralds, that was Unicron himself forging tiny little versions of himself and controlling them directly, which is why I used the term avatar.

One thing: What on earth (no pun intended) made Optimus thought Unicron would bow to logic and reason? Maybe we should rename him "Optimist" Prime...lol

He probably figured he could appeal to Unicron's ego. Hence why he referred to him as Lord Unicron, and kept complimenting him. Optimus thought Unicron would like the idea of having a planet of tiny little servants, following his every command, or else he'd transform and roll out and end the Earth itself.

It turns out, Unicron is a bit more picky about his followers, and his standards are much, much higher. Which, now that I think about it, is a major blow to the Fallen's job security.

[Heavy B]

Unicron is the earth? Thats new. How in the blue hell are they going to play this one out

[Shadowman]

Unicron is the earth? Thats new. How in the blue hell are they going to play this one out

It's more complicated than that. He's not Earth, and Earth isn't him. The line is pretty blurry, though. Optimus DID say that Unicron most likely no longer has or needs physical form, which actually explains everything. Remember, in the old version of their backstory, Primus and Unicron didn't have physical form when they ended up trapped in those asteroids, but over time, learned to control them. This actually explained how Unicron can make avatars out of bits of the Earth.

Tune in next week when I'm proven completely wrong about this.

[Heavy B]

Unicron is the earth? Thats new. How in the blue hell are they going to play this one out

It's more complicated than that. He's not Earth, and Earth isn't him. The line is pretty blurry, though. Optimus DID say that Unicron most likely no longer has or needs physical form, which actually explains everything. Remember, in the old version of their backstory, Primus and Unicron didn't have physical form when they ended up trapped in those asteroids, but over time, learned to control them. This actually explained how Unicron can make avatars out of bits of the Earth.

Tune in next week when I'm proven completely wrong about this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the series explained that unicrons drifting body attracted all different kinds of minerals, making the earth. That was the point I was making. Never saw THAT in a marvel comic

[Firebrand]

Unicron is the earth? Thats new. How in the blue hell are they going to play this one out

It's more complicated than that. He's not Earth, and Earth isn't him. The line is pretty blurry, though. Optimus DID say that Unicron most likely no longer has or needs physical form, which actually explains everything. Remember, in the old version of their backstory, Primus and Unicron didn't have physical form when they ended up trapped in those asteroids, but over time, learned to control them. This actually explained how Unicron can make avatars out of bits of the Earth.

Tune in next week when I'm proven completely wrong about this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the series explained that unicrons drifting body attracted all different kinds of minerals, making the earth. That was the point I was making. Never saw THAT in a marvel comic

Unicron's body certainly is large enough to have a significant gravitational pull. In this continuity I suppose its possible that when Unicron's corpse drifted into our young solar-system and fell into the sun's orbit, the pull his massive form had on the raw materials orbiting with him. It coalesced around the body and the constant shifting, coupled with intense heat and energy, broke down the body under the crust of the new planet. Thus: Unicron becoming the core of the planet.

....or at least that's what I gathered.

[Foxbear]

Looking more and more like Megatron will be the 'unusual ally' the Autobots team up with.
"You're grounded till you're 30!...25!"
Journey to the center of the earth coming up.
Optimus shows himself a master tactician as well as an awesome combat commander when he humbled himself to appeal to the ego of the ancient enemy. Basically he was saying,
“Hey, if you kill us it’s one thing but spare these humans.” Now THERE’S some character development for you.

Awesomeness all around.