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[Madeus Prime]

Madeus Prime, you're right. Thunderhoof and Thundercracker might might be considered separate characters, but the colors and their names are inspired to the original G1 character.

No, their colors are maybe in the same range, blues and greys, but otherwise they look, color wise, nothing alike:

Did you know that the Decepticon frog, Springload, was originally Springer? In G1, Springer was an Autobot. In this show, Springload is a Decepticon. Their names are quite similar, and so is their color schemes. From what we know, Springer was green and yellow, and so is Springload. The only difference is that Springload has some blue color scheme added to his appearance. Springload's appearance might be inspired by the original G1 Springer, but their roles are not.

And where did you get that from? If anybody inspired Springload, it would be this guy.

For example, the Grimlock that you saw from the show is not the one that you just saw in his previous incarnations. Unlike his previous incarnation, Grimlock has a brand-new color scheme, voice, speech, and personality, that completely inspired by Animated and Prime Bulkhead.

Actually, RID Grimlock is based, color wise at least, and possibly partially personality-wise inspired, by another RID Grimlock:

[psj333]

Madeus Prime, I forgot to mention that the Decepticon crab named Clampdown, originally started out as a G1 character that was exclusive to the 2003 comic book series as a young Autobot police officer on Earth. Unlike his RID self, G1 Clampdown is fully human-based. Only difference is their roles, alliances, and their appearances. The G1 Clampdown turns into a Lamborghini Countach, which was the same design used for G1 Sideswipe. On the other hand, the RID Clampdown actually turns into a boy racer coupe that is heavily based on a Ford Focus RS coupe.

[Sabrblade]

For the record, the Wiki got the "Thunderhoof is a crime boss" thing from online TV listings of Thunderhoof's debut episode.

[VirusCarnage]

I watched the 3 episodes tonight, they're not bad a lot better then I expected. I didn't expect the show to be this good.

[Va'al]

Is Thunderhoof a hoot or just taking it by the horns? Can his antlers be used as coatracks?

[Sabrblade]

I watched the 3 episodes tonight, they're not bad a lot better then I expected. I didn't expect the show to be this good.

Lotta folks said the same about Animated and Rescue Bots. I love it when this kind of thing happens with something being better than expected.

[VirusCarnage]

I watched the 3 episodes tonight, they're not bad a lot better then I expected. I didn't expect the show to be this good.

Lotta folks said the same about Animated and Rescue Bots. I love it when this kind of thing happens with something being better than expected.

Yeah it was a nice surprise with Animated and now this. Haven't gotten around to Rescue Bots yet though.

[william-james88]

Is Thunderhoof a hoot or just taking it by the horns? Can his antlers be used as coatracks?

They can be used as a rake.

[Autobot032]

Saw all three episodes. I'm actually quite impressed.

The animation, at first, is jarring but grows on you and you tend to get used to it rather quickly.

The voice work is actually quite good, but I must call attention to Constance Zimmer's performance as Strongarm, because you can tell she's reading from a script and has a bit of a whine to her voice in certain performances, while the rest of the cast are just flat out acting. (And they're good at it, too.)

The robot designs are still not my favorite, they're just so...busy. (Fortunately the toys eschewed this.) Too many colored "lights" and doohickies. Detracts from enjoying the animation models fully.

Characters are definitely this show's strong suit and also it's biggest problem. Bumblebee is middle of the road, he's not offensive, but he doesn't strike you as a wow type of character either. He's more the safe bet of the cast.

Strongarm is just annoying, and Zimmer's voice just magnifies this. (I don't mind her spouting the rules and regulations, but she just refuses to listen to anything. Really annoying.)

Sideswipe is alright, it's odd to think one of the Glee kids is now a Transformer. (He's really good in the role, too.)

The humans (I didn't take the time, nor do I really care, to memorize their names.) they're the usual cannon fodder, not really that super important to the series right now kinda deal. Not annoying or in the way though, so that's a plus.

Steeljaw looks to be a great villain just biding his time, but the voice actor doesn't quite work for him, I thought. Needs to be a bit more gravelly.

Sharkticon? *sighs* Felt literally nothing for him at all, just kind of a random, lower rung Batman's Rogue's Alley villain. Not needed and really boring.

And then we come to the two scene stealers.... Grimlock and Underbite. Oh, heck yes, more please! Grimlock is quite possibly the best of the Autobots. He's funny, he's dense and he's just a lot of fun. Underbite is one of those ridiculous villains with the cockamamie plans that go awry, but he has so much fun doing it. In fact, I liked him so much, I bought the One-Step. (Yes, that much.)

And finally... Well, at least his toy looks cool... Fixit. I know he's supposed to be some sort of comedic relief, but he doesn't work for me in that department, at all. His voice box issues just drive me up a wall. Shouldn't, I know, but they do. Yuck.

As of right now, things are shaping up nicely and I have no problems with the series. I can feel, but not quite see, that it's a sequel to Prime. Fortunately, they played smart and didn't give you a time frame, so if Jack, Raf and Miko are never mentioned, it's most likely that they're old, dead and buried. I see that Mairghread Scott is a writer (or producer? Can't remember.) and if I remember correctly she had something to do with Dinobots making an appearance in Primeverse somehow (outside of WFC/FOC) and that kind of worries me. Not her talent, she's quite talented, but that she has input as to whether or not the Dinobots get to make an appearance. I realize the Aligned Continuity is a mess and nothing ties together all that well, but Prime/Beast Hunters/Predacons Rising and Robots In Disguise do tie together quite well, so far. Neither show contradicts the other.

If you remove WFC/FOC from it and look at it as a standalone set of series, then it works and Grimlock can be explained away easily enough, but if you keep it all tied together, then his current character doesn't work and unravels everything making it a real mess.

So, here's to hoping the Dinobots from the games don't make an appearance here. As for the show itself? I do recommend checking it out, especially if you're a Primeverse fan, because there's a lot of fun to be had and the humor more often than not, works.

[william-james88]

The way I see it, there's the shows and then there's the game. They use simialr characters, concepts and time frames but they are their own continuity. Like the G1 cartoon vs the G1 comics or the Star Wars films and the expanded universe stuff.

[Madeus Prime]

Madeus Prime, I forgot to mention that the Decepticon crab named Clampdown, originally started out as a G1 character that was exclusive to the 2003 comic book series as a young Autobot police officer on Earth. Unlike his RID self, G1 Clampdown is fully human-based. Only difference is their roles, alliances, and their appearances. The G1 Clampdown turns into a Lamborghini Countach, which was the same design used for G1 Sideswipe. On the other hand, the RID Clampdown actually turns into a boy racer coupe that is heavily based on a Ford Focus RS coupe.

Okay? Your point is...what? Hasbro only secured the copyright to that name because it sounded good for a crab Transformer. Just like with Steeljaw.

You got to realize psj, just because Hasbro's new characters may share a similar name, color scheme, or alternate mode with an older character, the actual chances of there being a connection between the two are nil.

And another thing, his alt mode isn't based on a Ford Focus RS coupe. It's based on an older (I'd range it at 1960s), generic hatchback design with wood panels.


EDIT: Found these pics, not sure if somebody already showed them and I missed them, but here's Ped's and Terrashock's alternate modes:

[PrymeStriker]

And I think that's the way the should do it. The games and novels be another sub-continuity to the cartoons. Because, in my experience, there's no use keeping all of the Aligned continuity together when it'll inevitably fall apart. The cartoons are consecutive and, for me, that's all I care about anymore.

[Sabrblade]

The way I see it, the Binder itself is true, while everything else is an interpretive adaptation of its story.

[psj333]

Madeus Prime, from the preview clip from Robots In Disguise called, Masters Of Destruction, it seems that Bisk has a voice like that of a young man, despite being a tall, bulky figure. Does that mean Bisk is a very young Decepticon to begin with? If you don't believe me, have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObDK9Mb ... detailpage

Now, can you tell if Bisk is really young, middle-aged, or old?

[Va'al]

Now, can you tell if Bisk is really young, middle-aged, or old?

No. But at a guess, he's metal-aged.

[Madeus Prime]

Madeus Prime, from the preview clip from Robots In Disguise called, Masters Of Destruction, it seems that Bisk has a voice like that of a young man, despite being a tall, bulky figure. Does that mean Bisk is a very young Decepticon to begin with? If you don't believe me, have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObDK9Mb ... detailpage

Now, can you tell if Bisk is really young, middle-aged, or old?

Not all Transformers appearances reflect their age, look at Bulkhead. In Animated, he could be comparable to a high-school quarterback, sweet, but dim. In Prime, he filled the big guy with big talk and weapons role that's the norm for any boy aimed TV series.

So, and again psj, we don't know how young or old the other Decepticons are or sound like, but I'd hazard a guess that Bisk is a younger Decepticon, going by his speech pattern and mannerisms.

Again, in Transformers, size and appearance aren't always indicators of age. In IDW, you'd guess that Tailgate would be the youngest by his cutesy looks, but we know that he's one of the oldest Autobots on board the Lost Light.

[psj333]

Madeus Prime, You're right. Bisk might be a very young Decepticon, due his speech patterns and attitudes, and not just on how he sounds. But at the same time, I was also considering Clampdown as much younger than Bisk, since that he is the smallest and the newest member to Steeljaw's army. Is this really the case?

Also, the Decepticons that Bumblebee recently caught moments ago are still online, meaning that they're expected to make their returns in future episodes. The only members that are currently part of Steeljaw's army are Underbite, Thunderhoof, Fracture, and Clampdown. Due to this, I believe that Steeljaw and his entire army will locate the remaining captured Decepticons and will eventually free them in order them to become a full army once again. Will this be the main part of the RID storyline?

Earlier, you also mentioned that Clampdown`s vehicle mode isn`t based on a Ford Focus RS Coupe. But judging by the front of the car, it does strongly resemble the front founded on various Ford models, such as, a Focus and a Fusion. What do you think?

[PrymeStriker]

Now, can you tell if Bisk is really young, middle-aged, or old?

No. But at a guess, he's metal-aged.

Till all are pun, indeed.

[Whiplash33]

I was looking online line at rid pics and I found one where bisk is in a stasis pod all I typed in was transformers ped robots in disguise The stasis pod from the little bit I seen looked awsome

[Madeus Prime]

Madeus Prime, You're right. Bisk might be a very young Decepticon, due his speech patterns and attitudes, and not just on how he sounds. But at the same time, I was also considering Clampdown as much younger than Bisk, since that he is the smallest and the newest member to Steeljaw's army. Is this really the case?

We haven't heard him talk psj! There is no way to know!

And and shuddup about this size doesn't matter. Size and appearance doesn't always indicate age in the TF universe psj.


So just because he's smallest does not make him the youngest.

And do not ask me which of the Decepticons are the youngest, because we don't know yet.

Also, the Decepticons that Bumblebee recently caught moments ago are still online, meaning that they're expected to make their returns in future episodes. The only members that are currently part of Steeljaw's army are Underbite, Thunderhoof, Fracture, and Clampdown. Due to this, I believe that Steeljaw and his entire army will locate the remaining captured Decepticons and will eventually free them in order them to become a full army once again. Will this be the main part of the RID storyline?

We've no idea what kind of power-play Steeljaw is engaging in. So anything story wise is up for conjecture. And currently there is no army psj, all we know from the Australian broadcast is that Steeljaw is plotting to free more Decepticons. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Earlier, you also mentioned that Clampdown`s vehicle mode isn`t based on a Ford Focus RS Coupe. But judging by the front of the car, it does strongly resemble the front founded on various Ford models, such as, a Focus and a Fusion. What do you think?

I do agree that it is inspired by basically every post-2000 hatchback, but it features retro design accoutrements that make it older looking.



I'd guess that this was the look they were going for.

I was looking online line at rid pics and I found one where bisk is in a stasis pod all I typed in was transformers ped robots in disguise The stasis pod from the little bit I seen looked awsome

Um, dude, we've seen the pods. We've seen the show.

[psj333]

Madeus Prime, what you are actually saying is that Steeljaw is planning to release all the remaining Decepticons that Bumblebee just recently captured and put them into their status cell? Are you actually referring to Hammerstrike, Bisk, Chop Shop, Terrashock, Filch, Ped, Quillfire, and eventually that skunk that is yet to be named for the show?

[Madeus Prime]

Madeus Prime, what you are actually saying is that Steeljaw is planning to release all the remaining Decepticons that Bumblebee just recently captured and put them into their status cell? Are you actually referring to Hammerstrike, Bisk, Chop Shop, Terrashock, Filch, Ped, Quillfire, and eventually that skunk that is yet to be named for the show?

All we can see from the show is that Steeljaw is plotting to release as many Decepticons as possible for some plan. I believe one of the episodes has Steeljaw breaking out Underbite from the Autobot base though. So my guess is that Steeljaw is only recruiting those that are either worthy or needed for his plans (Underbite's eating power for example).

In episode three, we saw Steeljaw about to break open a stasis pod, claiming something about his fellow Decepticon brothers getting their freedom.

[Cobotron]

Just finished the 3rd episode. I'm all in for this show.
Loving the art direction. I like all kinds of animation, but I really like how you lose the 3D with the cell shaded look. I'll have TFs a la Windwaker. I think the character design is outstanding.
I'm liking all the bots, and thank freakin' Primus Bee TALKS. finely no local radio mash-up or skweebldy-skwoop. He's all growed up. Talk like a man, man. Strongarm= . Don't mind the departure from traditional Grimlock one bit.
These decepticons are so freshy and intriguing. Both style and character.
ANd so far I like where the story is heading.
I'm ready for more.

I haven't been this excited for a TF show since Beast Machines.

[psj333]

Madeus Prime, you know that I really do love the idea about animals that can turn into vehicles for this show. However, the only character that I do have a problem with is Filch. To many fans like us, including myself, didn't like on how Filch was created for the show. Don't get me wrong, I actually do love all these character for this show, including Filch herself, both as a animated character and as an action figure. The only problem that I have with her is that she only has a crow-robot mode, but she doesn't seem to have a vehicle mode. As a rule, you can't be a Transformer if you don't have an altmode. According to Hasbro, all of these Decepticon, except for Fracture, excluding Chop Shop, do already have vehicle modes, but when they become robots, they do not display human characteristics, but rather beast characteristics. The list is as follows:

Steeljaw = wolf = Monster Truck (SUV and Not a Pickup)
Underbite = Type Of Reptile (Not a Dinobot as once previously thought) = Tank-like Car
Hammerstrike = Shark = Submarine
Bisk = Lobster = Muscle Car
Terrashock = Cow/Bull = Garbage Truck
Thunderhoof = Deer = Tractor
Filch = Crow = Unknown
Fracture = Human = Motorcycle
Ped = Earthworm = Tanker Truck
Quillfire = Porcupine = Armoured Military SUV
Springload = Frog = Farming Pickup Truck
Clampdown = Crab = Boy Racer Coupe

Therefore, there is absolutely no way in hell that Filch does not carry a vehicle mode as her altmode!


When or will Filch gain a vehicle mode as her main altmode, just like those characters mentioned above? If she does already have a vehicle mode, then she will be a type of plane of sorts. If that is the case, she kind of plane would she be?

[Sabrblade]

To many fans like us, including myself, didn't like on how Filch was created for the show.

That's a lie. Fans haven't complained about Filch at all. Because Filch hasn't even been seen in the show yet. What are you, from the future or something?