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Well I'M sorry that you continue to erroneously believe that laws that are strictly applied to very specific things like medication and replaceable parts by very specific government agencies are somehow universal and can be applied to everything you want to defend. Your own sources in no way explicitly state that 3P products are legal and instead uses meaningless phrases like "not necessarily" and one even states that they may, in fact, be illegal. Great defense there! And somehow I'm the one who's clouded.

Hasbro has actively fought against 3P figures and KO. I haven't even mentioned the stuff they've done at Botcon, banning their sales in the dealers' room for years and nearly shutting down the artist alley over the sales of fanart in 2012. We've reported on Hasbro getting Chinese authorities to raid 3P and KO factories such as the Weijiang raid in 2020. There's also the report of Takara Tomy forcing a Japanese store to stop selling 3P products on copyright and trademark grounds.

Meanwhile you can't prove the rumor that Hasbro didn't mean to invite PVP to events and send him Lego Optimus Prime. The FACT is that Hasbro has the power to make PVP's life a living hell and they haven't. Contacting authorities over the purchase of stolen goods aside, Hasbro could very easily get YouTube to take down their channel if they wanted to. Don't think so? Mattel and/or Paramount this year got YouTube to take down channels of Jurassic Park toy reviewers for showing packaged figures THAT THEY LEGALLY BOUGHT FROM ONLINE RETAILERS ahead of the latest movie because of potential spoilers, the channel owners didn't get a warning or a chance to appeal they were just gone. All Hasbro has to do is have their legal team contact YouTube about PVP making money off videos featuring stole goods and nobody would ever hear from him again. THEY HAVEN'T. Hasbro doesn't care.

Your problems with PVP are based on a strictly moral gray area that the "victim" doesn't care about, while my issue with 3P is based on a complete and utter lack of proof of their legality and evidence that leans towards their illegality thanks to your own sources that are supposed to be defending them.

Emerje

A 3P toy that is not G1?

Hell has frozen over.

Hasn't There been 3P versions of Armada and Energon Prime made, or in development?

Anyways, still waiting for a scaled down KO PotP Predaking. I own the original, but just would like a smaller version to go with all other Generations combiners.

For one, not a G1!
And a BW to boot!

Well, that looks really awesome.
Hopefully see some more pics coming down the pipeline for this!

The Studio Cell have been well received. So this one will too.

Now, to see the live color pictures....

More pseudo "MP G1" bots.
Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnn...........

Make a "Scourge" who would be a fusion between G1 Scourge and R.I.D Scourge and you'll have my attention.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I've said it many times. For how long ago MP-22 Ultra Magnus (2014), Hot Rod (2016 & 2018) and Rodimus Prime (2011) came out. At least one of the Movie Decepticons should have been in the MP line by now. It's ridiculous these headliner characters only exist at MP level via 3P.

Oh yeah, if they don't exist officially yet, have at it. But 3P companies makes so many of them and you can chose between 10 versions. It's not too bad when they're years appart because looks and tech can be different, but some may appear 2 or 3 times in just a few months.

Thinking about it, that's good because competition is always good.
They just need to tone down the Optimusses.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Thinking about it, that's good because competition is always good.

Although the existence of 3P Transformers does still confuse me. I do think there are instances wherein 3P is a valid option. Sometime ago there were MP level Monsterbots. Takara will likely never make those. So that fills a vacuum.

I'm kicking myself to have skipped those Monsterbots. When I got my G1 and TR versions, it was too late to get them at normal price. They're even more nope'd priced today.

MP scaled like the previous 3P "Armada Optimus", or Generations scaled meant for the Legacy Commander?

Thanks to the included minicon in the picture, it means MP scaled.