Sabrblade wrote:"Monstrous articulation of his legs" is certainly an apt description.
(Note also, that he didn't move the legs at all and just sort of pointed to the general area of articulation.)
Sabrblade wrote:"Monstrous articulation of his legs" is certainly an apt description.
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
Deathsaurus1 wrote:I hear this figures legs will snap off?
Is there a way to fix it?
Rodimus Prime wrote:You can't make me disappear. I am not feet.
BERSEKAEL wrote:if they recall this item to fix it and/or we get an updated version, they also include a re-scale, so he wont fell that short next to metroplex, he is missing 6 inches
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
BERSEKAEL wrote:if they recall this item to fix it and/or we get an updated version, they also include a re-scale, so he wont fell that short next to metroplex, he is missing 6 inches
MadProject wrote:I already read about "several people" with a broke Trypticon, but so far I can find only the one who posted the tutorial to fix the hip spring.
Also, I found just one videoreview done after that tutorial that mentioned that problem, and made another video about how to change the ratchet joint into a normal joint.
There are actually other people who already got Trypticon and it broke after they transformed it, and can personally write about the issue?
None the less I'll probably customize mine (when I'll get it) to avoid the risk from the start, but I'd like to know if it's actually a widespread issue or just a single bad copy.
My hope is that in the end this will be just like MP Megatron barrel issue,that broke just because it was wrongly forced by people, and not actually a design flaw.
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
Qwan wrote:MadProject wrote:I already read about "several people" with a broke Trypticon, but so far I can find only the one who posted the tutorial to fix the hip spring.
Also, I found just one videoreview done after that tutorial that mentioned that problem, and made another video about how to change the ratchet joint into a normal joint.
There are actually other people who already got Trypticon and it broke after they transformed it, and can personally write about the issue?
None the less I'll probably customize mine (when I'll get it) to avoid the risk from the start, but I'd like to know if it's actually a widespread issue or just a single bad copy.
My hope is that in the end this will be just like MP Megatron barrel issue,that broke just because it was wrongly forced by people, and not actually a design flaw.
I'd love if it was just a semi-isolated issue too, but from my experience (being the guy who posted that tutorial) it's a combination of too-strong springs, and really soft plastic used on a piece where said plastic needs to resist a lot of force. I can't be certain that I didn't do something wrong - and it'd be great for other people if that was the case, so they could avoid it themselves - but in my totally-non-professional analysis of the problem, it looks like more of an engineering/materials choice issue than a consumer-end one. I'm sure we'll find out more once Trypticon gets a wider release; for now, relatively few people actually have the toy so it's hard to build a complete picture as to the nature and extent of the problem.
(Also, just a note that I'm pretty sure that video you mention came out a little before I posted my tutorial. I noticed the issue just before the video was posted here, but I didn't get around to actually making a proper tutorial until after the video had already been put up on these boards. It's worth noting that it seems the other guy and I had a totally identical issue with Tryp's hips, so that also pushes me slightly closer to 'design/execution flaw' over 'user error'.)
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:Nipping that wire leaves a pretty sharp tip. I bet one could use a rasp or file to file that tip down so it's not so destructive. Also thought alternatively, you could wrap the end in a generous amount of electrical tape.
MadProject wrote:Cobotron wrote:Nipping that wire leaves a pretty sharp tip. I bet one could use a rasp or file to file that tip down so it's not so destructive. Also thought alternatively, you could wrap the end in a generous amount of electrical tape.
I was thinking about covering the tip with a soft rubber cup, or round it with sandpaper.
If you can bend the spring as I meant in my last post, it should sit flat on the surface, and it wouldn't scratch the plastic.
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
Qwan wrote:MadProject wrote:Cobotron wrote:Nipping that wire leaves a pretty sharp tip. I bet one could use a rasp or file to file that tip down so it's not so destructive. Also thought alternatively, you could wrap the end in a generous amount of electrical tape.
I was thinking about covering the tip with a soft rubber cup, or round it with sandpaper.
If you can bend the spring as I meant in my last post, it should sit flat on the surface, and it wouldn't scratch the plastic.
The springs are really tough, so while it might be possible to bend them flat you'd definitely have a hard time doing it. (Plus it'd make the cut-down springs that much shorter, where about half-length is nearly the shortest they can be before the ratchet stops catching.) A rubber/electrical-tape cup or sanding the tip should work though - provided you keep in mind that sanding or filing metal is also probably gonna take a fair while!
Personally I just added a couple layers of cardboard between the inner housing for the spring, and the spring itself (it's one of the 'optional' steps in the tutorial, I believe). It stops the spring from scratching thanks to the extra padding, and also adds a little more strength to the ratchet without them becoming self-destructively strong again. I've got two layers of cardboard, each about 1-2mm thick, in mine's hips right now and that works quite well! (I'd guess that around 3 or 4 layers would be right about perfect, but I honestly just can't be bothered disassembling the hips for like the seventh time )
MadProject wrote:Qwan wrote:[snip]
well, the flattening could be a problem just in case you cut the spring in half.
If you work on both the springs (instead of making 2 out of 1) you should be able to shorten and flat them.
If it's possible, with a bit of patience, to flatten the end of the spring, there wouldn't be the need of a cardboard disk at all, expect just to have some more thickness in the ratchet joint.
Do you think it's possible to make or not?
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
Qwan wrote:MadProject wrote:Qwan wrote:[snip]
well, the flattening could be a problem just in case you cut the spring in half.
If you work on both the springs (instead of making 2 out of 1) you should be able to shorten and flat them.
If it's possible, with a bit of patience, to flatten the end of the spring, there wouldn't be the need of a cardboard disk at all, expect just to have some more thickness in the ratchet joint.
Do you think it's possible to make or not?
I think it could work, in theory! Using both springs instead of the one is definitely a good way to make them a little longer, and with a good amount of patience you might be able to bend the bottom end of each spring into place. The springs are very sturdy though (since the entire idea of a spring is to flex to varying degrees, but never bend permanently), so it'll require a lot of effort and patience, or some creativity in finding a way to make the spring temporarily more malleable. I'd think that maybe heating them up could help, but absolutely don't take my word on that since I honestly have no idea when it comes to heating metal (or most anything in life, actually ).
MadProject wrote:Qwan wrote:MadProject wrote:Qwan wrote:[snip]
well, the flattening could be a problem just in case you cut the spring in half.
If you work on both the springs (instead of making 2 out of 1) you should be able to shorten and flat them.
If it's possible, with a bit of patience, to flatten the end of the spring, there wouldn't be the need of a cardboard disk at all, expect just to have some more thickness in the ratchet joint.
Do you think it's possible to make or not?
I think it could work, in theory! Using both springs instead of the one is definitely a good way to make them a little longer, and with a good amount of patience you might be able to bend the bottom end of each spring into place. The springs are very sturdy though (since the entire idea of a spring is to flex to varying degrees, but never bend permanently), so it'll require a lot of effort and patience, or some creativity in finding a way to make the spring temporarily more malleable. I'd think that maybe heating them up could help, but absolutely don't take my word on that since I honestly have no idea when it comes to heating metal (or most anything in life, actually ).
I don't know if you're interested, but I'm looking online and it looks like bending a spring is possible. I'll try once I'll got my Trypticon, if I see that his ratchet joints will be too hard.
Or eventually I'll check online for a couple of springs
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
Kurona wrote:I could see that being part of an upgrade kit which would also contain things like Brunt and extra weapons.
Black Hat wrote:Kurona wrote:I could see that being part of an upgrade kit which would also contain things like Brunt and extra weapons.
Ooooh I like your thinking. I'd love it if they pulled an Iron Factory Slammer and made Brunt with a robot mode. Likewise, a bunch of TM sized figures with better articulation would rock for crewing him with. Design them after the "hardhat" generic humans with some kind of brainwashing device on them perhaps?
Black Hat wrote:A 3P upgrade kit that replaces the "cross" of the ratchets (the bit susceptible to tearing due to the shoddiness of the materials) with either really dense plastic or ideally metal would be a great idea. Someone get on it.
Just make sure you don't bust the toy itselfBurn wrote:I really should get around to busting mine out of his box.
MadProject's right, the cross piece is the same part as the entire base of the hip, so not only would it require a large amount of disassembly (if it even can be disassembled by the consumer; I'll have to look at that) but it'd also be two rather large pieces of metal/sturdy plastic. And given how much even the small 3P products tend to cost...MadProject wrote:Black Hat wrote:A 3P upgrade kit that replaces the "cross" of the ratchets (the bit susceptible to tearing due to the shoddiness of the materials) with either really dense plastic or ideally metal would be a great idea. Someone get on it.
I don't know how much that is doable. It should be one solid piece, so basically you'd have to change all the base for the hip
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
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