Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
If you were a fan, how did it feel “talking” to Optimus Prime? Did they have a crew member say his lines off camera to help with timing or was Peter Cullen’s voice prerecorded?
When saying my lines (if i remember correctly) there was mix of things that were going on. At times someone off camera would recite Optimus Primes lines, but I believe it was a member of the crew and not Peter Cullen. Other times, if the scene was shorter and the camera cut away, I would just pause my lines while saying them to account for another voice to be inserted later. I actually just read through the transcripts on the wiki and remember saying every single one of them – I was able to memorize quite a bit – but I my memory serves me correctly I believe I definitely had some large cue cards up there behind the cameras as well. They were color coded to help break up the lines.
Optimus looked great – up close you could tell it was made from wood and plastic, but it was a real dam good job. A little bit of info, we had two puppeteers working Optimus Prime. I believe one guy was inside his head and moving his mouth while another moved his head from side to side. One of the guys was a famous puppeteer and had worked on Sesame Street inside of “Snuffalupagus” not sure if I have spelled that correctly. I remember he was known for his work.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Hm, never knew about this lost fifth season.
Is that Terry O'Quinn?
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Hm, never knew about this lost fifth season.
It's not lost, as in, nobody could ever find it. Rather, very few people remember it.
This season's been on YouTube for years.
Is that Terry O'Quinn?
PrymeStriker wrote:Jason Jansen.
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:Jason Jansen.
Oh, I thought Jason Jansen was the dude with the hair.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Well, since Hasbro had nothing to do with those series, maybe they just didn't want to bother.ausbot wrote:I've always wondered why do this and the G2 reruns when they could have just re voiced Victory, headmasters and Masterforce? They has 3 perfectly good series already animated, the toys why not use them?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that all three focused on characters Hasbro wasn't selling in their market (Victory, especially), so had they dubbed these three, they'd be advertising a whole bunch of toys kids in the West couldn't buy, instead of the ones that they could.
Springer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that all three focused on characters Hasbro wasn't selling in their market (Victory, especially), so had they dubbed these three, they'd be advertising a whole bunch of toys kids in the West couldn't buy, instead of the ones that they could.
Yeah, Hasbro would never do that in a series! Cough, cough... TFP Breakdown, Smokescreen, Unicron, Winged Vehicon...
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Not back then, they wouldn't have.Springer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that all three focused on characters Hasbro wasn't selling in their market (Victory, especially), so had they dubbed these three, they'd be advertising a whole bunch of toys kids in the West couldn't buy, instead of the ones that they could.
Yeah, Hasbro would never do that in a series! Cough, cough... TFP Breakdown, Smokescreen, Unicron, Winged Vehicon...
Alright. I'll try to break it down as best as I can.ausbot wrote:Well they were selling the Headmasters toys when Headmasters was produced, Masterforce basically had the same characters as the west (very few difference) And Takara still had to get the rights from hasbro so my question still stands why did they never use perfectly good cartoon to sell their toys!
The Headmasters only came about because of how short "The Rebirth" was.jamarmiller wrote:its something I always wondered too
especially Headmasters
Why make up a 3 episode miniseries, when they had the JP Headmaster series
Mostly only in cameos and eye-candy battle scenes. While watching the series, it becomes pretty clear pretty quick that all of the Headmasters take the center spotlight and shift nearly the entire 1984-1986 cast into either the background, the sidelines, or just outright out of the picture.jamarmiller wrote:It looks more like a continuation that rebirth and had characters from all the previous seasons too.
"Matrix editing"?Blackstreak wrote:I remember watching those. I didn't care for the Matrix editing of the series.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:.....................Mostly only in cameos and eye-candy battle scenes. While watching the series, it becomes pretty clear pretty quick that all of the Headmasters take the center spotlight and shift nearly the entire 1984-1986 cast into either the background, the sidelines, or just outright out of the picture.jamarmiller wrote:It looks more like a continuation that rebirth and had characters from all the previous seasons too.
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It wasn't really that slow. It was pretty much just as immediate as the changeover from the 1984/1985 cast to the 1986 cast as seen in the Transformers: The Movie. Or the changeover from the 1986 cast to the 1987 cast in "The Rebirth". Once the Headmasters appeared, they became the stars right then and there.jamarmiller wrote:Ummmmmm................thats kind of the point though
Its the slow changing of the main cast ( from old to new ) and not a sudden change, say like Victory.
But even then, as the series went on, the cameos became less and less occuring, with many of the 1984-1986 cast just up and disappearing. Some of which even vanish after only one or two appearances early on in the series.jamarmiller wrote:We could enjoy the new cast take the spotlight while still seeing the old cast make lots of cameos and such. WE could enjoy seeing the cast standing next to the old cast.
That I can understand. But unlike the DiC Joe cartoon, The Headmasters wasn't so much dumbed down as it was increasingly more violent and crueler in tone compared to the U.S. cartoon. character would get murdered, tortured, brutalized, and just mauled to an extent far greater than what had come before outside of the 1986 movie.jamarmiller wrote:I mean Hasbro went with Sunbow then on to DIC with GI JOE and it was the same continuity but seriously dumbed down. way more than the JP Headmasters series was. As a kid , I would have loved the Headmaster series just for the sheer amount of new episodes. As a kid I was seriously disappointed we got 3 eps and only 3 eps
I can see how one would feel like that, but it just wasn't a feasible idea back then. Toy sales were declining, so less money was being made, so the funds for cartoon material were decreasing lower and lower. If Hasbro couldn't afford to produce their own cartoons at the time, how would they have afforded importing three more cartoons that they didn't have the necessary resources to Americanize for?jamarmiller wrote:I remember ( like a previous poster stated ) just waiting and waiting for new eps to show with the new toys and nothing ever happened ( until I grew up and found the JP series existed )
It was a serious wasted opportunity IMVHO
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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