Rated X wrote:Still a little disappointed in searchlight's alt mode. Grind Rod pretty much retained his G1 alt mode, but for Aurora they went for that neo crap and gave us a soccer mom's daily driver. Oh well, It will be displayed in robot mode. Or maybe Ill even combine them to form the mighty Throttler !
Also what's that white s**t on the roof of the car in the first picture ? Did he park under a tree ?
Rated X wrote:for Aurora they went for that neo crap and gave us a soccer mom's daily driver.
Also what's that white s**t on the roof of the car in the first picture ? Did he park under a tree ?
robotmel wrote:Rated X wrote:for Aurora they went for that neo crap and gave us a soccer mom's daily driver.
Also what's that white s**t on the roof of the car in the first picture ? Did he park under a tree ?
Its about time everyone started getting used to any updated vehicle mode for official/unofficial Transformers, its a reality, its here to stay!
As we can see the whole roof in robot mode and alt mode, I would guess the 's**t on the roof' may just be a light reflection from the windowed packaging?
I have to say the output of Toy World is looking really cool at the moment, and Im really glad they havent gone for the doofy brick-bot alt modes of G1.
Stick with the updates, Neo-style and your on to a winner Toy World!
datguy86 wrote:Rated X wrote:Still a little disappointed in searchlight's alt mode. Grind Rod pretty much retained his G1 alt mode, but for Aurora they went for that neo crap and gave us a soccer mom's daily driver. Oh well, It will be displayed in robot mode. Or maybe Ill even combine them to form the mighty Throttler !
Also what's that white s**t on the roof of the car in the first picture ? Did he park under a tree ?
Nah, dude. That's just collected negative fan reaction.
Rated X wrote:Hegemon: G1-ish Alt mode
Grind Rod: G1-ish alt mode
Hardbone: G1-ish alt mode
Aurora: Neo chick ride
Im not sure what other "neo style updates" from toyworld you are referring to. Neo is nothing more than a Hasbro gimmick to appeal to modern day kids. Im always disappointed when it carries on to adult toy lines that cost $100 bucks a pop. Some collectors love it. I dont because I have no attachment to todays cars and planes. If the robot looks like his 1980's self, why change the alt mode ? For that just change everything and youve got TF Prime, Bayformers, etc. For me, I-Gears respect for the G1 alt mode makes them awesome.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:You know, I just call anything that's a new take on a G1 toy "Neo". From the most faithful masterpeice to something from the Energon line that homages an earlier figure. It's all just a new version of something G1 ... Neo G1.
Anyhow, pure G1 from robot to alt. mode is really rare in collecting. You may as well complain about the names.
virtually everything else is neo g1, or not related. (or movie, where admittedly they at least didn't just try to make everything an updated version of g1. i just don't like what they did with it). even stuff with isn't strictly a representation of a g1 character can end up heavily influenced by them. plenty of people repurpose toys as other characters than their official names. hell that's what the 3rd party scene is!
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Neo is another word for "new". Neo Nazis are "new Nazis". But there are other places you can find the word. In Megaman, Megaman Legends was once called Megaman Neo - New Megaman. I remember Sailor Moon has Neo Tokyo - the future version of Tokyo.
The place I get stuck on for the term "classics" is that we have an entire line called "classics".
X, I think you should just speak for yourself. I don't think many other 30 year old collectors feel the same way about the revamped alt. modes. I definitely don't mind revamped alt. modes myself. I think it's a nice treat if they retain their old 80's alt. modes, but it isn't something I prioritize for TFs that were always supposed to represent current, modern, vehicles. There's other reasons not to like this alt. mode.
NOS wrote:Classics is more a nod to the characters from the G1 where as Neo introduces a revamped aspect. Like New Optimus Prime, New Starscream and so on. Whats more, the gimmick behind Transformers was always 'Robots in Disguise'. A robot isn't necessarily blending in with the year 2008 and up when Bumblebee still transformers into a 1984 Volkswagen Beetle. I respect your enthusiasm and loyalty to G1, but sometimes we have to adapt and just... 'roll with it'? *rimshot*
In any case, I'm still pleased with the figure even if I'm not partial to the alt mode. Eagerly looking forward to the rest of the Throttlebots, but even more so their plans for the Dinobots. At least with them we can rest assured we won't be getting Slag in a Prius Hybrid or Sludge as a Hummer Limousine.
Rated X wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Neo is another word for "new". Neo Nazis are "new Nazis". But there are other places you can find the word. In Megaman, Megaman Legends was once called Megaman Neo - New Megaman. I remember Sailor Moon has Neo Tokyo - the future version of Tokyo.
The place I get stuck on for the term "classics" is that we have an entire line called "classics".
X, I think you should just speak for yourself. I don't think many other 30 year old collectors feel the same way about the revamped alt. modes. I definitely don't mind revamped alt. modes myself. I think it's a nice treat if they retain their old 80's alt. modes, but it isn't something I prioritize for TFs that were always supposed to represent current, modern, vehicles. There's other reasons not to like this alt. mode.
It’s one thing to swap out a Countach for a Murclelago. It’s another thing to swap out a Porsche for a Mini SUV. That’s not neo, that’s rape. Not trying to say I speak for the entire 30 something crowd. But Id like to think there’s a bunch out there just like me due to the success of the following:
• IT Arcee and Delicate Warrior
• Igear Mini-bots
• Art Feather Bumblebee
• Survival Specialist Wheelie
• X-Transbots Powerglide
• Igear Ironhide and Ratchet
• TW Hegemon
All these figures have been pretty successful. So there is a market for updated non-neo G1 figures. And let’s not forget the Masterpiece line. Just because they’re upsized doesn’t mean they escaped neo-izing without a reason. The reason is because fans want them old school. They’re out there, trust me on that. If fans were really that fond of neo, the MP line would have flopped from the very beginning.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I just don't like you speaking for me, X. I am a 30+ year old collector and do not share your views.
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:That's rape... Yeah, they're not 100% accurate to toylines from nearly 30 years ago. And no, you do NOT speak for me, either.
Rated X wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I just don't like you speaking for me, X. I am a 30+ year old collector and do not share your views.
I speak for those who <insert a list>
If you dont fall under one of those catagories then no worries. Feel free to speak your own mind if my views dont fit yours. But I will continue to be the voice for the voiceless that are drowning in a sea of neo fans.
Rated X wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:That's rape... Yeah, they're not 100% accurate to toylines from nearly 30 years ago. And no, you do NOT speak for me, either.
So youre saying I could take away youre nice sports car and force you to drive a mini cooper and you would still be happy ?
I wouldnt be caught dead driving that girly mini SUV Toyworld used for his alt mode. Searchlight WAS raped, with no Vasaline. At least Rollbar got to keep his G1 dignity and his Grind Rod.
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