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william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sighhhhhhhhhh the ONE thing I was waiting on RED to do and they didn't. Why, why couldn't Starscream come with a gun mode Megatron? I have a Cobra Commander that NEEDS his Megatron.

Just wait till Kingdom Core Megatron, he comes with a Megatron in gun mode and will be cheaper than this RED Starscream.

Really? So Megatron will be... playing with himself?
That so ridiculous and cool at the same time, Core Megs will be a sure buy for me!

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sighhhhhhhhhh the ONE thing I was waiting on RED to do and they didn't. Why, why couldn't Starscream come with a gun mode Megatron? I have a Cobra Commander that NEEDS his Megatron.

Just wait till Kingdom Core Megatron, he comes with a Megatron in gun mode and will be cheaper than this RED Starscream.

Really? So Megatron will be... playing with himself?
That so ridiculous and cool at the same time, Core Megs will be a sure buy for me!

It's the only good thing about him though (well headsculpt is good too but that alt mode, yeesh)

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Mindmaster wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sighhhhhhhhhh the ONE thing I was waiting on RED to do and they didn't. Why, why couldn't Starscream come with a gun mode Megatron? I have a Cobra Commander that NEEDS his Megatron.

If you have it, the gun-mode Megatron that comes with the Centurion Drone w/ weapons pack fits in CC’s hand, I’ve tried it before and although I’m not using it right now it looks amazing.

It doesn't have the stock and looks far too blocky. They did a gun megs for the SDCC Joe/TF crossover Starscream that looks fantastic, I know these are smaller than 1/12 scale but I figured a gun Megs in this size would've worked.

I already have an Actionmaster Bumblebee. He's hanging from my Christmas tree.

It's like Hasbro is hellbent on saving me money. They release toy after toy that I have no interest in, and if there's any chance I might want something, they don't ship it to a store anywhere within 500 miles of me. Not sure if I should say "thanks" or "screw them."

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Starscream look great but even this Screamers fanboy have no need for it. HOWEVER, that Bee is a MUST. That's a Bee that will be relatively be MP scale, 100% toon accurate, no gribbles and bulls, completely affordable. No need for MP-45 when this RED Bee exist.

Good point, but I'm wondering if they tried to do any "scaling" at all...

They didn't because that's not what this line is about. It's about giving you 6 inch non transforming figures of Transformers characters.

I get the overall premise of the line, however, it wouldn't exactly be shocking if they still charged $20 for R.E.D. figures that were only 4 inches tall.
It's going to look really odd for anyone who has a Bumblebee who is the same height as Prime, Megatron, Soundwave, etc.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Starscream look great but even this Screamers fanboy have no need for it. HOWEVER, that Bee is a MUST. That's a Bee that will be relatively be MP scale, 100% toon accurate, no gribbles and bulls, completely affordable. No need for MP-45 when this RED Bee exist.

Good point, but I'm wondering if they tried to do any "scaling" at all...

They didn't because that's not what this line is about. It's about giving you 6 inch non transforming figures of Transformers characters.

I get the overall premise of the line, however, it wouldn't exactly be shocking if they still charged $20 for R.E.D. figures that were only 4 inches tall.
It's going to look really odd for anyone who has a Bumblebee who is the same height as Prime, Megatron, Soundwave, etc.

Happening right now in the cyberverse line.

Plus, 4 inch BB in RED would still be way too big to scale with Prime.

william-james88 wrote:Happening right now in the cyberverse line.

Plus, 4 inch BB in RED would still be way too big to scale with Prime.

I was about to say the same thing for the Cyberverse deluxe... Hey, and all the other classes as well.

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Starscream look great but even this Screamers fanboy have no need for it. HOWEVER, that Bee is a MUST. That's a Bee that will be relatively be MP scale, 100% toon accurate, no gribbles and bulls, completely affordable. No need for MP-45 when this RED Bee exist.

Good point, but I'm wondering if they tried to do any "scaling" at all...

They didn't because that's not what this line is about. It's about giving you 6 inch non transforming figures of Transformers characters.

I get the overall premise of the line, however, it wouldn't exactly be shocking if they still charged $20 for R.E.D. figures that were only 4 inches tall.
It's going to look really odd for anyone who has a Bumblebee who is the same height as Prime, Megatron, Soundwave, etc.

Happening right now in the cyberverse line.

Plus, 4 inch BB in RED would still be way too big to scale with Prime.

Totally, but my point was that I could see them making smaller RED figures (although scale wouldn't be accurate) and still charging $20/per.

Maybe they will extend RED to have bigger figures like Marvel Legends thanos/power rangers monsters etc (which might be where metroplex or gestalts would come in) and if they do that then maybe GI joe classified can get some brutes too (not sure I'd want to spend £30 per gi joe extreme chararter but SGT savage would be a must).

kinda sucks having to buy faction stickers to put on official toys but at least arcee looks like she has room for one.Some inhand photos posted on tfw

I'll definitely be getting that Prime Arcee.

The next two figures out in the Transforemrs RED series are Cheetor and Prime Arcee and Prime vs Prime has a review of these two. As you will see from the comparison shots (you can also see screencaps below), there is no attempt at any kind to scale. This is a uniform 6 inch action figure line and that's about it. While the Arcee looks great, the Cheetor leaves a lot to be desired especially with the face. We'll let you all be the judge of that of course, let us know what you think.

Big "meh" on that Cheetor, but that Prime Arcee is a must have.

the brown on his arms and helmet dont look right

And Cheetor's expression...I guess he made that particular face a few times on the show, but a happy, open-mouthed expression would be more appropriate for his character. It kind of looks like his helmet is painfully squishing it, or he's an evil relative of King Zarkon in disguise. Not feeling it, and I could see it shelfwarming bad enough to hurt the prospects of future non-transforming BW figures.

But Action Master Prime Arcee is a big red F-YEAH!

Definitely going for this over Kingdoms. I like how the back piece can be removed so that I can mod it to be set a bit lower. I might even snip the pylon things down a bit too, can't change the face but th easier to do than give Kingdoms/Netflix Cheetor a new everything. He should go okay next to MP Primal too as I'm skipping on Kingdoms Primal until a Burning repaint.

The scale on Arcee is more of a pain but I need a Prime Arcee and it might as well be her though I still might go for one of the old figures at some point too. RED Knockouts a likely purchase as the orig figure is a bit off looking.

They really did not get Cheetor's colors right at all.

Arcee looks good, but again, they didn't get the colors right on her. pretty disappointed by that

I truly think those two are the only ones that are worth of getting from R.E.D.
Are they still store exclusive like OP, Megs and Soundwave?

Dragma Kerp wrote:I truly think those two are the only ones that are worth of getting from R.E.D.
Are they still store exclusive like OP, Megs and Soundwave?

You betcha!

Can anyone who picked up Megatron kindly fiddle with his mace using it on Siege Megatron...? I would love to get my hands on the one that comes with Centurion but oh well.

But I figure if it can work well somehow then I would pick up RED Megs just for that!

So it looks like Super7 are doing articulated transformers figures in the 7" scale. Pretty much everything RED should've been.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So it looks like Super7 are doing articulated transformers figures in the 7" scale. Pretty much everything RED should've been.

Don't be so sure. I took a look at the teaser image, and their TMNT offering and... not impressed with "highly articulated".

Shouldn't Super7s transform if they really want to be Ultimates? For £50-60 a pop they are going to have to be special and then some. The Thundertank is already the price of more batmobiles than I could fit on a table so I can't see them going the action master route nor people willing to pay the price for them when RED gets looked down on as is.

Hoping RED gets a Dinobot with Kingdoms alt mode being a bit arse.

blackeyedprime wrote:Shouldn't Super7s transform if they really want to be Ultimates? For £50-60 a pop they are going to have to be special and then some. The Thundertank is already the price of more batmobiles than I could fit on a table so I can't see them going the action master route nor people willing to pay the price for them when RED gets looked down on as is.

Hoping RED gets a Dinobot with Kingdoms alt mode being a bit arse.

It's the same company that charges 20 pounds for a tiny figure with 70's articulation. So if you didn't find that worth it, no reason you'd change your mind with the new products.

It's a shame because RED could easily have gone for the action masters with partners route for under £30. I'm not finding the ultimates anything special, I might pick up an occasional TMNT figure (considering muckman or mutagen man at some point) for £50 but it aint going to be the same for their tfs.

There are a bunch of different combinations of size, price point, level of detail, and brand. You can get a 6" Marvel figure for $20 from Hasbro or for $100 from Mexico. You can get a 12" of the same for $10 from Hasbro or for $300 from Hot Toys. There are so many different factors that go into these different product classes that I don't see why Transformers should be any different.

Additionally, though many collectors are fans of an IP franchise first, others collect product brands. I think that's part of the appeal of ubiquitous brands like ReAction and Funko Pop. If you already have Turtles and Thundercats Ultimates, you might want to add a Prime to that shelf.

I get the appeal of some of these. Like, if I didn't already have MP Optimus and Megatron, or ER Optimus and Megatron with the accessories pack, it might be nice to have the R.E.D. versions to stage the battle over the dam. As it is, I like having a ReAction Alpha Trion because it's more faithful to the cartoon than any other representation. I'm not sure if these will last long enough or cover territory that's missing in Generations, but I think there's room for lots of different takes on these characters.