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Well, it's not horrible.. I would definitely call it "on par" with O.P from 2007. But not with ROTF Prime.

In defense though, ROTF Prime was the second go. So perhaps with next film, they can get to that level again.

If not for the chrome, this would be totally worthless to me.

It Is Him wrote:

Mkall wrote:Kids will enjoy this figure, collectors will not. Why Hasbro is attempting to woo collectors with this is beyond me.

Simple does not necessarily equal bad, in my eyes. Nearly all of G1 had simple transformations, and I lap that up like a dog at an overturned ice cream tanker, or something.

The thing is, those are a product of the 80s and we can expect/appreciate their simple transformations when the technology and engineering were still lacking. It's kind of like how one can appreciate Atari or NES games in this day and age (many of them are amazing), but you'd never see one of that simplicity and quality released now.

Actar wrote:

It Is Him wrote:

Mkall wrote:Kids will enjoy this figure, collectors will not. Why Hasbro is attempting to woo collectors with this is beyond me.

Simple does not necessarily equal bad, in my eyes. Nearly all of G1 had simple transformations, and I lap that up like a dog at an overturned ice cream tanker, or something.

The thing is, those are a product of the 80s and we can expect/appreciate their simple transformations when the technology and engineering were still lacking. It's kind of like how one can appreciate Atari or NES games in this day and age (many of them are amazing), but you'd never see one of that simplicity and quality released now.

Mega Man 9&10 would like to have a word with you. Not to mention ducktales remastered, Scott pilgrim, double dragon neon... I could really go on

It Is Him wrote:

Actar wrote:

It Is Him wrote:

Mkall wrote:Kids will enjoy this figure, collectors will not. Why Hasbro is attempting to woo collectors with this is beyond me.

Simple does not necessarily equal bad, in my eyes. Nearly all of G1 had simple transformations, and I lap that up like a dog at an overturned ice cream tanker, or something.

The thing is, those are a product of the 80s and we can expect/appreciate their simple transformations when the technology and engineering were still lacking. It's kind of like how one can appreciate Atari or NES games in this day and age (many of them are amazing), but you'd never see one of that simplicity and quality released now.

Mega Man 9&10 would like to have a word with you. Not to mention ducktales remastered, Scott pilgrim, double dragon neon... I could really go on

Fair enough. But if those were all that you had for Triple A titles for your new PS4 or X-Box One, I think there will be similar complaints from the gaming community. After all, it's all about graphics, gameplay (hours), extras and story.

It Is Him wrote:Link to Amazon now dead. Also, if Feb 4 date is true... HOLY COW

Sadly the link isn't working. Probably because so many ordered it that's its now out of stock. Hopefully BBTS carries this,So I can buy it. I love buying the premium colors movie toys.

I'm sorry but in my opinion $19.99 would be right price to ask for this disaster and I still wouldn't buy it!

I see at least 19 points of articulation on this thing. That's only three less that ROTF Leader Prime's 22 points. Not such a crime, is it?

It honestly reminds me of the first movie Leader class Prime toy, which itself was not a bad figure and was highly beloved at the time that it came out. The only real fault of that toy was that it simply wasn't as movie-accurate when compared to the ROTF Leader toy, so as a representation of the CG model, it didn't succeed as well in that regard. But as a figure in its own right, it did the job quite well.

Similarly, the only real fault of this figure is its back kibble, but all that is at least tucked out of the way in a position that isn't obstructive.

My only desires for the toys of this line are:
A) To have decent looking robot and altmodes
B) To have a good amount of articulation to live up to playability expectations
C) To have kibble that isn't obstructive

And this figure appear to have met all three qualifications, so it's good enough.

Actar wrote:

It Is Him wrote:

Actar wrote:

It Is Him wrote:

Mkall wrote:Kids will enjoy this figure, collectors will not. Why Hasbro is attempting to woo collectors with this is beyond me.

Simple does not necessarily equal bad, in my eyes. Nearly all of G1 had simple transformations, and I lap that up like a dog at an overturned ice cream tanker, or something.

The thing is, those are a product of the 80s and we can expect/appreciate their simple transformations when the technology and engineering were still lacking. It's kind of like how one can appreciate Atari or NES games in this day and age (many of them are amazing), but you'd never see one of that simplicity and quality released now.

Mega Man 9&10 would like to have a word with you. Not to mention ducktales remastered, Scott pilgrim, double dragon neon... I could really go on

Fair enough. But if those were all that you had for Triple A titles for your new PS4 or X-Box One, I think there will be similar complaints from the gaming community. After all, it's all about graphics, gameplay (hours), extras and story.

Touché.

Sabrblade wrote:I see at least 19 points of articulation on this thing. That's only three less that ROTF Leader Prime's 22 points. Not such a crime, is it?

It honestly reminds me of the first movie Leader class Prime toy, which itself was not a bad figure and was highly beloved at the time that it came out. The only real fault of that toy was that it simply wasn't as movie-accurate when compared to the ROTF Leader toy, so as a representation of the CG model, it didn't succeed as well in that regard. But as a figure in its own right, it did the job quite well.

Similarly, the only real fault of this figure is its back kibble, but all that is at least tucked out of the way in a position that isn't obstructive.

My only desires for the toys of this line are:
A) To have decent looking robot and altmodes
B) To have a good amount of articulation to live up to playability expectations
C) To have kibble that isn't obstructive

And this figure appear to have met all three qualifications, so it's good enough.

Well this all well reasoned, and I have to agree, I think people are being put off for three reasons. They don't like the new robot design. The transformation is extremely simplified. Shellformer.

... I feel like the shield and sword ought combine into a giant axe. Other than that, not particularly looking forward to this

Also, guys, the reason it's 60 bucks is because this super shiny "First Edition" is an Amazon exclusive special edition release, like the Platinum Edition toys. Just wait for the less expensive, not-so-chromey, regular version of the mold to come to standard retail.

I actually like the new robot mode design, but just not this translation into toy form. The chrome and paint scheme look really cool together, I'm just not a fan of the simplistic mould. It's just so obvious that barely any of his robot mode is parts from his truck, his chest looks like it's just a chunk of plastic.

Wasn't there some rumours of takara having some premium leader optimus too?

But if that shares the same mold as this...

Is there a retail version of this mold? Because I don't mind paying $40 for a retail version whenever it goes on clearence. I assume if it retails, there would be just less chrome, and more of the dark grey? That works for me.

$60 thats a misprint right

my god that kibble. the only thing i like about this is the box art.

I don't see "Platinum Edition" anywhere on the box. It only says, "First Edition." Was that a misquote on behalf of the original poster?

Mindmaster wrote:I, uh... I'm not sure what to think.

I mean, he looks cool, it's just... I dunno, something just bugs me. I'm guessing the previous in-hand images showing off his kibbly hind-quarters turned me off. I'm perfectly happy with my Revenge of the Fallen Leader Optimus, but if they're willing to make a Galvatron at the same price point, I'll give the pair some consideration.

zatara1701 wrote:Check out the Dinobot "blueprints behind the pic of Prime on the package... "Grimlock Class 01 Destroyer," is printed in the upper left... Interesting.

Yeah, we've known that for a while now.

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:FWIW, I estimated the size of this fig at about 10.5in to the top of his head. I did this by blowing up the image until the handle on his sword was 5mm across, then measured the resulting height. Def feels like Leader class.

Neato. So he's looks pretty hefty. What gets me is the thin look on his arms.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

That about sums up my reaction. Personally, I'm more anxious about Generations than I am Age of Extinction.

I am curious...

1) What have we known for awhile?? I log in to Seibertron at least once a day and never seen of heard anything alluding this little observation.

2) In reference to point #1, this is the first time we've seen this figure and it's packaging soooo how did we see or know anything for "awhile?"

3) Lastly, I would hate to assume you meant for your comment to sound this way, but it was a tad condescending...Like saying, "Hey Idiot, we all know that, where have you been?" kinda tone... Like I said, I don't think you meant it that way, but that's how it came off.

CONCLUSION: Despite all the fuss, I think I will just wait for a wide release of this mold with LESS chrome...Did I just say that?? I want a RED Prime, not a shiny one.

Mkall wrote:Kids will enjoy this figure, MOST collectors will not. Why Hasbro is attempting to woo collectors with this is beyond me.

Fix'd for ya. There are those of us among the collector community that will very much indeed enjoy this figure.

gavinfuzzy wrote:Is there a retail version of this mold? Because I don't mind paying $40 for a retail version whenever it goes on clearence. I assume if it retails, there would be just less chrome, and more of the dark grey? That works for me.

There should be. This is just a special edition Amazon exclusive.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I don't see "Platinum Edition" anywhere on the box. It only says, "First Edition." Was that a misquote on behalf of the original poster?

Probably, yeah. It should say "First Edition", even though this is quite similar to the Platinum Edition toys (extravagant deco, high price, online exclusivity, etc.).

zatara1701 wrote:1) What have we known for awhile?? I log in to Seibertron at least once a day and never seen of heard anything alluding this little observation.

I think he's referring to those Dinobot background designs you noticed, which we have seen before - http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-age-of-extinction-product-box-imagery-reveals-dinobots/29083/

Though the "Grimlock Class 01 Destroyer" thing you point out is new, yes.

zatara1701 wrote:2) In reference to point #1, this is the first time we've seen this figure and it's packaging soooo how did we see or know anything for "awhile?"

No it isn't. We have seen this Optimus before -
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-age-of-extinction-optimus-prime-leaked-image/28898/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-age-of-extinction-optimus-prime-inhand-image/29113/
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-images-transformers-age-of-extinction-movie-leader-class-optimus-prime/29131/

Overall, I think the figure looks alright. Like others have said, it reminds me of 1st movie Prime. I only wish that it had less chrome on the chest and thighs and more chrome on the car bits (especially the exhaust!).

Optimus won't win a beautycontest, maye he'll be super-fun or something.

Something something innerbeauty something.

With as long as that sword hilt is I'm thinking he can use a two handed grip. If that's so I wonder how great his range of motion will be holding it like that.

It's gone from Amazon. Wonder if somebody goofed something up with this?

All that chrome just makes it look tacky. Too much bling.

Was anyone successful at ordering this from the Amazon site Yesterday?
or was the Amazon ordering link not working from the start.

Mykltron wrote:All that chrome just makes it look tacky. Too much bling.

I think thats the best part of this toy. All those chrome makes paying $16 extra worth every penny.

The reason why SDCC Metroplex sold out so fast was due to his Chrome face & thighs. Fans here didn't mind paying extra due to it.