The Energon Pub

[DedicatedGhostArt]

I think in the TF fandom, scale is a pointless argument. I think it boils down to this: if you like a figure, think it will fit into your collection and is worth the price of admission, then add it to your collection.

I was already on team Titan Devy, but those last few pictures really cemented it for me.

Pre-orders can't open soon enough. And at the end of the day, I'm the only one that will be handling/admiring my collection anyways.

Yeah, the biggest problem for me, is affording Devy. Lol I am a sucker.

[Super Megatron]

Somehow this new Devastator looks much taller than the 18" reported in this thread - it looks more like 24" or so - it looks twice as big as Menasor and Optimustein.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Somehow this new Devastator looks much taller than the 18" reported in this thread - it looks more like 24" or so - it looks twice as big as Menasor and Optimustein.

Ikr? He looks HUGE! But then again, they usually looks bigger in the pictures. :\

[Zeedust]

However, with Combiners I really never see them as 'individual' figures. They were the team. Even if I only had one (like Motormaster) I would have to get THAT whole team just to use the part to it's fullest potential.

You must hate how Combiner Wars has torsos who don't have limbs of their own and online-exclusive spare limb guys. Not sure about how you feel about the legends-class guys.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

However, with Combiners I really never see them as 'individual' figures. They were the team. Even if I only had one (like Motormaster) I would have to get THAT whole team just to use the part to it's fullest potential.

You must hate how Combiner Wars has torsos who don't have limbs of their own and online-exclusive spare limb guys. Not sure about how you feel about the legends-class guys.

I think Cyclonus is a cool concept, stealing other team's members, feeding on their power, fits Galvatron/Galvatronus very well!

Maybe Galvatronus died, and haunted Cyclonus, and gave Cyclonus combiner powers, so Cyclonus sometimes get's out of control, and Galvatron's ghost taked over or something. I don't know I'm just trying to think of a backstory.

[Rated X]

NOW, this is a scale worth defending! Mega Ultra Class Optimus will destroy your puny Devastator!

That "official" pic pretty much confirms the intended audience for larger scale "simplified" figures. In the "official" pictures of superion and menasor being played with, the kids were practically entering puberty.

You're argument falls flat here since that giant Optimus toy is a Rescue Bot that doesn't even transform at all. Does it not make sense to photograph a toddler next to a preschool toy?

My point is huge oversized toys are for babies. Go to any TRU and you will see that all the baby toys are huge.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

NOW, this is a scale worth defending! Mega Ultra Class Optimus will destroy your puny Devastator!

That "official" pic pretty much confirms the intended audience for larger scale "simplified" figures. In the "official" pictures of superion and menasor being played with, the kids were practically entering puberty.

You're argument falls flat here since that giant Optimus toy is a Rescue Bot that doesn't even transform at all. Does it not make sense to photograph a toddler next to a preschool toy?

My point is huge oversized toys are for babies. Go to any TRU and you will see that all the baby toys are huge.

Depends Mr. Black and White, remember Metroplex Rated X? Devastator is mostly for collectors, your "baby toys" are so simple I'd throw them away...
...or make a few bucks by selling them on Ebay.

[Zeedust]

However, with Combiners I really never see them as 'individual' figures. They were the team. Even if I only had one (like Motormaster) I would have to get THAT whole team just to use the part to it's fullest potential.

You must hate how Combiner Wars has torsos who don't have limbs of their own and online-exclusive spare limb guys. Not sure about how you feel about the legends-class guys.

I think Cyclonus is a cool concept, stealing other team's members, feeding on their power, fits Galvatron/Galvatronus very well!

Maybe Galvatronus died, and haunted Cyclonus, and gave Cyclonus combiner powers, so Cyclonus sometimes get's out of control, and Galvatron's ghost taked over or something. I don't know I'm just trying to think of a backstory.

Maybe he nearly died, and ordered the Decepticons to integrate what was left of him into an upgraded body for Cyclonus. The mind control is because Mindwipe complained, so he got used for spare parts.

[Crimson Prime]

If we don't get a Titan Class Omega Supreme down the track and Planet X Genesis remains so expensive I have his rival picked out for my shelf already, G-Creations Shuraking.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

However, with Combiners I really never see them as 'individual' figures. They were the team. Even if I only had one (like Motormaster) I would have to get THAT whole team just to use the part to it's fullest potential.

You must hate how Combiner Wars has torsos who don't have limbs of their own and online-exclusive spare limb guys. Not sure about how you feel about the legends-class guys.

I think Cyclonus is a cool concept, stealing other team's members, feeding on their power, fits Galvatron/Galvatronus very well!

Maybe Galvatronus died, and haunted Cyclonus, and gave Cyclonus combiner powers, so Cyclonus sometimes get's out of control, and Galvatron's ghost taked over or something. I don't know I'm just trying to think of a backstory.

Maybe he nearly died, and ordered the Decepticons to integrate what was left of him into an upgraded body for Cyclonus. The mind control is because Mindwipe complained, so he got used for spare parts.

Lol yeah Mindwipe.

[MaverickPrime]

Holy crap! I'm looking at my Superion right now and I thought he was big!

[Ultra Markus]

and i thought he was just a few inches taller than superion...........consider my mind blown!

[Convoy]

When I saw the Hasbro retail Devy with the visor I was half hoping the visor would be retractable. Now I see the SDCC Devy with two eyes and I'm torn. The TakTom version teases the visor so I guess there's still hope for a retractable visor. I doubt it though.

I think Takara-Tomy will just go with the visor version of the head sculpt. Even though in the original cartoon, Devastator's face would just randomly switch between the visor and the two eyes look within the same episodes, I'm pretty sure Takara considers the visor look the "correct" version of the character. They made a brand new sculpt of THAT version for the Encore 20A "Anime Devastator" released a few years ago.

Technically speaking, because both visor and optics appear in the original animation, error or not, both are cartoon accurate. I haven't seen an angle yet in enough resolution to confirm or dispel my hopes of a retractable visor. I like to think "Battle Visor."
It's not beyond TakaraTomy to do a special headsculpt.
Still waiting.

[Dagon]

I like robits, but I also like robutts...

Imma have my Devastator fightin' this guy.

Pft. Devastator will mangle that child.

[phantom1592]

However, with Combiners I really never see them as 'individual' figures. They were the team. Even if I only had one (like Motormaster) I would have to get THAT whole team just to use the part to it's fullest potential.

You must hate how Combiner Wars has torsos who don't have limbs of their own and online-exclusive spare limb guys. Not sure about how you feel about the legends-class guys.

Meh, I'm ambivalent really. There are so many things I want to buy right now... I don't feel too bad about the things I don't want to buy.

I'll admit I don't care for the Scramble City idea. I like the combiners like Superion and Devastator to be a specific amalgamation of the specific personalities that create him... Mixing and matching feels cheap to me. 'spare parts' are annoying if that was the figure I wanted in the first place...

My collection is fairly focused. I like Alpha Bravo enough as he is... but if I had known about quickslinger originally I wouldn't have bought AB... Now I'm torn. I have little attachment to QS, but knowing he's out there and would have completed 'original' superion... kinda irks me.

Internet makes things easier regardless. Exclusives and online shopping don't mean much anymore. It's easier to track things down online then it was back in the 80's hunting for that missing leg or arm...

Legends?? I'm not a fan of tiny toys... I can tolerate it a bit with guys like Cosmos and powerglide who were originally tiny... But I would have been happier if they had been bumped up to the deluxe class and blend in a bit better with the rest of the guys. I have Igear's 'not-Brawn' standing next to Prowl, Hot rod, and Hound... I like him a lot better big then I ever did small. Still... tradition and all that. If they keep making minibots tiny... I won't complain.

Characters like itty bitty Rodimus or Shockwave?? Yeah, not a fan of those at all. I would love a good shockwave... but I'm not buying a mini one...

All comes down to the beauty of only buying what I like... There will always be a ton of transformers out there that I will never buy... a few more to the list doesn't break my heart.

[phantom1592]

NOW, this is a scale worth defending! Mega Ultra Class Optimus will destroy your puny Devastator!

That "official" pic pretty much confirms the intended audience for larger scale "simplified" figures. In the "official" pictures of superion and menasor being played with, the kids were practically entering puberty.

You're argument falls flat here since that giant Optimus toy is a Rescue Bot that doesn't even transform at all. Does it not make sense to photograph a toddler next to a preschool toy?

My point is huge oversized toys are for babies. Go to any TRU and you will see that all the baby toys are huge.

A lot are... but some are still pretty awesome.

I've got TRU Gigantic 24'' Godzilla squaring off against Mattel's 24" Voltron right now. Not a whole lot to that Godzilla, but he looks awesome and is HUGE!!!

Rescue bots? Not so much

[fenrir72]

NOW, this is a scale worth defending! Mega Ultra Class Optimus will destroy your puny Devastator!

That "official" pic pretty much confirms the intended audience for larger scale "simplified" figures. In the "official" pictures of superion and menasor being played with, the kids were practically entering puberty.

You're argument falls flat here since that giant Optimus toy is a Rescue Bot that doesn't even transform at all. Does it not make sense to photograph a toddler next to a preschool toy?

My point is huge oversized toys are for babies. Go to any TRU and you will see that all the baby toys are huge.

A lot are... but some are still pretty awesome.

I've got TRU Gigantic 24'' Godzilla squaring off against Mattel's 24" Voltron right now. Not a whole lot to that Godzilla, but he looks awesome and is HUGE!!!

Rescue bots? Not so much

Again with the hijacking of the topic. To quote Adm. Ackbar......"it's a trap...!

[phantom1592]

NOW, this is a scale worth defending! Mega Ultra Class Optimus will destroy your puny Devastator!

That "official" pic pretty much confirms the intended audience for larger scale "simplified" figures. In the "official" pictures of superion and menasor being played with, the kids were practically entering puberty.

You're argument falls flat here since that giant Optimus toy is a Rescue Bot that doesn't even transform at all. Does it not make sense to photograph a toddler next to a preschool toy?

My point is huge oversized toys are for babies. Go to any TRU and you will see that all the baby toys are huge.

A lot are... but some are still pretty awesome.

I've got TRU Gigantic 24'' Godzilla squaring off against Mattel's 24" Voltron right now. Not a whole lot to that Godzilla, but he looks awesome and is HUGE!!!

Rescue bots? Not so much

Again with the hijacking of the topic. To quote Adm. Ackbar......"it's a trap...!

Oops! I thought Giant robots and monsters from the 80's of comparable size was pretty on topic...


If it helps I'll mention that the first thing I plan on doing with Titan Devastator is setting him up in an epic battle with at least one of those!

[fenrir72]

NOW, this is a scale worth defending! Mega Ultra Class Optimus will destroy your puny Devastator!

That "official" pic pretty much confirms the intended audience for larger scale "simplified" figures. In the "official" pictures of superion and menasor being played with, the kids were practically entering puberty.

You're argument falls flat here since that giant Optimus toy is a Rescue Bot that doesn't even transform at all. Does it not make sense to photograph a toddler next to a preschool toy?

My point is huge oversized toys are for babies. Go to any TRU and you will see that all the baby toys are huge.

A lot are... but some are still pretty awesome.

I've got TRU Gigantic 24'' Godzilla squaring off against Mattel's 24" Voltron right now. Not a whole lot to that Godzilla, but he looks awesome and is HUGE!!!

Rescue bots? Not so much

Again with the hijacking of the topic. To quote Adm. Ackbar......"it's a trap...!

Oops! I thought Giant robots and monsters from the 80's of comparable size was pretty on topic...


If it helps I'll mention that the first thing I plan on doing with Titan Devastator is setting him up in an epic battle with at least one of those!

Relevance? Giant robots and monsters? On topic. Reason for the scale of choice by the manufacturer? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic.

[padfoo]

:shock:

Great googley-moogly....

Oh yeah, this is way Devastator should look and scale in all future incarnations. The first the biggest and the baddest.

[munkimus prime]

Devy is awesome and everything but where's my size comparison with Metroplex?.

[joevill]

Love the set but Long Haul looks terrible.

[Sabrblade]

Devy is awesome and everything but where's my size comparison with Metroplex?.

Sizing up my Armada Tidal Wave to Titan Metroplex (Tidal Wave's around the same height as the CW Combiners) and using the Devy pics as a reference, Devy looks like his might come up to the height of Metroplex's belly button.

[no-one]

Devy is awesome and everything but where's my size comparison with Metroplex?.

Sizing up my Armada Tidal Wave to Titan Metroplex (Tidal Wave's around the same height as the CW Combiners) and using the Devy pics as a reference, Devy looks like his might come up to the height of Metroplex's belly button.

Jeez, how tall is Metroplex? I thought he was around 24 inches and Devy is around 18 inches?

Now I would like to see those two standing side by side.

[Sabrblade]

Devy is awesome and everything but where's my size comparison with Metroplex?.

Sizing up my Armada Tidal Wave to Titan Metroplex (Tidal Wave's around the same height as the CW Combiners) and using the Devy pics as a reference, Devy looks like his might come up to the height of Metroplex's belly button.

Jeez, how tall is Metroplex? I thought he was around 24 inches and Devy is around 18 inches?

Now I would like to see those two standing side by side.

Well, okay, it's not so much a belly button as it is a chest button, but "belly button" sounds funnier.