Sabrblade wrote:It goes further back than that, when Machine Wars was out at the same time as Beast Wars.Mistaken_Table wrote:As far as I remember, there was always just 1 line of transformers out at a time. Then universe/classics happened.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It goes further back than that, when Machine Wars was out at the same time as Beast Wars.Mistaken_Table wrote:As far as I remember, there was always just 1 line of transformers out at a time. Then universe/classics happened.
I only saw machine wars at K-B toys, was it exclusive or do I not remember things very well
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:And I couldn't stand the Filmation MOTU cartoon. In 81 MOTU was aimed towards teens but in 83 the cartoon dropped it from teen to toddler. As a kid I loved the more mature realistic cartoons like Transformers, GI Joe, M.A.S.K., Robotech & vehicle Voltron.
Emerje wrote:Nemesis Reformatted wrote:And I couldn't stand the Filmation MOTU cartoon. In 81 MOTU was aimed towards teens but in 83 the cartoon dropped it from teen to toddler. As a kid I loved the more mature realistic cartoons like Transformers, GI Joe, M.A.S.K., Robotech & vehicle Voltron.
All of this stuff was made for little kids under 10, including the 81 MOTU comics. Nobody made action figures and cartoons (for US TV) for teens and adults in the 80s. "More mature realistic cartoons".
Emerje
TFfan1 wrote:Ah, reminds me of when I was a wee sprog with my Armada figures. I'm glad the target demographic enjoys the toys. As someone who grew up with the Unicron Trilogy, I'll always be able to appreciate simple figures with fun gimmicks, although I do wish Hasbro would cut down on collector-aimed content and focused on the kids, I feel like it isn't fair they get the short end of the toy quality stick.
Ultra Markus wrote:well g1 was also geared towards kids as was everything else in transformers up until playschools gobots and now rescue bots
do they think kids nowadays are less capable of playing with more complicated toys?
Ultra Markus wrote:do they think kids nowadays are less capable of playing with more complicated toys?
Ultra Markus wrote:well g1 was also geared towards kids as was everything else in transformers up until playschools gobots and now rescue bots
do they think kids nowadays are less capable of playing with more complicated toys?
o.supreme wrote:I tend to agree. I mean I remember I was 9 when Jetfire came out in 1985, and my 11 year old friend got him. It was complicated, but not beyond our ability to enjoy.
o.supreme wrote:I've not seen any WFC toy that is more complicated than the original Jetfire. That Macross Valkyrie design is pretty great from an engineering point of view. Only Masterpiece and 3P have I seen that are more complex.
Also if Cyberverse isn't for 8 year olds who is it for? 6-7 that's a pretty small range considering Rescue Bots is 3-5.
o.supreme wrote:I've not seen any WFC toy that is more complicated than the original Jetfire. That Macross Valkyrie design is pretty great from an engineering point of view. Only Masterpiece and 3P have I seen that are more complex.
Also if Cyberverse isn't for 8 year olds who is it for? 6-7 that's a pretty small range considering Rescue Bots is 3-5.
ScottyP wrote:The reality of how messed up supply chains are right now hit me when some local Targets did their late summer toy reset and didn't even have Cyberverse stuff to fill the space with. Not finding desirable stuff is typical, but usually there's at least plenty of kid product when these hit. Not this time.
Obviously this is all anecdotal and potentially localized, but I've been collecting for a long time and brick and mortar has never been this devoid of TF product. I don't blame the stores or even Hasbro, stuff is just clogged up.
blackeyedprime wrote:I'd not seen Jazz yet
https://www.thetoyshop.com/action-toys- ... 4605_E3522
Seems okay for what it is. Flattest feet ever though?
First impression: He's okay.
The Negatives: The primary auto-transform, which is his big selling feature, is on a hair-trigger. This made him a bit of a pain to transform into truck. Plus, the auto-transform still requires a bit of shoulder manipulation. Also, those legs are both immobile and can do the splits. Pretty crazy.
The Positives: Upper body was more flexible and articulated than I expected. His head sculpt is a gorgeous show accurate representation, and his head can pivot! I love his weight. He feels very solid. I can imagine 8-year old me going crazy over the light and sound clips (very short though). The sword and claws are a nice touch, although I'm not a fan of the chest armor. He sizes pretty well with my one large Cyberverse Megatron.
Overall: Good toy. Fun. Probably could have waited for him to go on sale for $45 or $40 though. For what he is, I'm super-glad I got him.
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