The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

Official Images of the new reveals at Botcon 2016

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So Nosecone uses Brawl's head? Lightspeed uses Streetwise's head (I kinda expected that, given he has no new parts)? I'm agast. At least tell me Strafe's head is new, I don't recognise it.

[Rainmaker]

I've seen that yellow bot somewhere...who is it? It's a redeco of Generations Cosmos by the look of it.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I've seen that yellow bot somewhere...who is it? It's a redeco of Generations Cosmos by the look of it.

That would be Scrounge, he transforms into a wheel.

[Rainmaker]

I've seen that yellow bot somewhere...who is it? It's a redeco of Generations Cosmos by the look of it.

That would be Scrounge, he transforms into a wheel.

Ah, Scrounge. I always hoped he would get an updated toy, is it confirmed he transforms into a wheel?
Sadly con exclusive.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I've seen that yellow bot somewhere...who is it? It's a redeco of Generations Cosmos by the look of it.

That would be Scrounge, he transforms into a wheel.

Ah, Scrounge. I always hoped he would get an updated toy, is it confirmed he transforms into a wheel?
Sadly con exclusive.

Don't you mean "Computron" exclusive? He's the Legends partner for the CW Computron set, he attaches to Strafe.

[Rainmaker]

I've seen that yellow bot somewhere...who is it? It's a redeco of Generations Cosmos by the look of it.

That would be Scrounge, he transforms into a wheel.

Ah, Scrounge. I always hoped he would get an updated toy, is it confirmed he transforms into a wheel?
Sadly con exclusive.

Don't you mean "Computron" exclusive? He's the Legends partner for the CW Computron set, he attaches to Strafe.

Wait, what? How does a wheel attach? Does that mean we can use Cosmos?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I've seen that yellow bot somewhere...who is it? It's a redeco of Generations Cosmos by the look of it.

That would be Scrounge, he transforms into a wheel.

Ah, Scrounge. I always hoped he would get an updated toy, is it confirmed he transforms into a wheel?
Sadly con exclusive.

Don't you mean "Computron" exclusive? He's the Legends partner for the CW Computron set, he attaches to Strafe.

Wait, what? How does a wheel attach? Does that mean we can use Cosmos?

Scrounge looks like he kept Cosmos' flying saucer mode, which is similar enough to a wheel. I'm spotting a peg right behind Strafe's cockpit, Scrounge saucer mode probably has a 5mm (screw) hole on the underside.

[william-james88]

Wait, what? How does a wheel attach? Does that mean we can use Cosmos?

Pretty sure you can. We dont know how it attaches but when we figure that out, I am sure we could reproduce that effect with Cosmos.

OMG YES! After all the G2 Combiners they didn't think of doing any other toys as G2? G2 Megs is awesome and I really want an updated figure for it.

They just announced a G2 Megatron Update as part of G1 Joe Crossover. It is a Club Exclusive you will have to buy in their online store:

I do like the Hasbro Strafe Alt mode quite a bit. Think that looks pretty cool.
Where this version of Computron falls short for me:
Nosecone and Lightyear altmodes
The lack of a new head/chest for Comp
The lack of new head sculpts for the individual bots.
The mish-mash colors of both individual figures and Comp.
Nice that Afterburner has some Orange, but for me there's too much red, black (or dark gray), and that green windshield is not good.

And I do stand corrected-- the new hands and feet do match the darker red of the torso/head.

I get if people like and want the Hasbro version, but for not that much more, I think there are a lot of improvements with the UW version that are well worth it.

I was gonna agree that Takara wins on all acount, but its tougher than I thought.
Here is my Rundown:

Afterburner: Hard win for Takara since those guns are INCREDIBLE and add to the futuristic version of the toy when you add them to the sides of the motorcyle. Hasbro didnt bother much with their version. Same head and the same gun molds as before but without clear plastic. Plus that green winsdhield is beyond weird.
Nosecone: Takara owns this one too. This is probably the lamest offering from hasbro. It's just the terrible Brawl mold redeco'd, same head and everything, and a weak drill accessory.
Scattershot: Hasbro's deco is AMAZING. The light blue looks good, sure, but the intricate paint job in alt mode makes me wish Takara wasnt so damn show accurate. I mean the mold isnt even close to the look the G1 one had, so why cant you play with the molding detail and work your paintjob around that. Hasbro's is absolutely gorgeous. The bot modes for both are rather similar in how good the paint job is, but when it comes to the Torso Takara wins for the simple reason that the head is totally new. I said it once, but the head is the most identifying part of a character so having a different head really sets that combiner as his own unique character and not the same torso with different limbs on.
Lightspeed: Takara wins this for the simple fact that Hasbro's is just a straight up redeco. There is absolutely nothing new here and the lightbar is there for all to see. Still, I like the sides being white at the bottom, it breaks up the colours nicely. But Takara still wins for not being lazy.
Strafe: Speaking of not being lazy, both sides did a good job here. I do preffer Takara's but I would have been fine with either. I just find takara a little more sleek. Hasbro's has some pretty terrible undercarriage. But the effort is there and he even has a new head. This turned out to be super interesting since this is totally different than what some privaledged people had seen before with Hasbro's Strafe just being a redeco of an aerialbot.
Extras: hasbro wins here since Takara doesnt have any extras.

Its fun, I dont think there is an inferior combiner, you both get good stuff for the money. I am choosing Takara though because each member and the combiner himself looks more like their own individual rather than being another toy in a different paint scheme.

[Burn]

I.WANT.SCROUNGE.NOW!

[Rainmaker]

I.WANT.SCROUNGE.NOW!

You're not the only one.

[Wolfman Jake]

TakaraTomy's Unite Warriors Computron is going to be my defacto Classics Computron, no doubt about it. However, I want Scrounge, and I think I can repurpose most of Hasbro's Technobot limbs as new "alternate" characters, much like how Alpha Bravo and Offroad warm the benches for the Aerialbots and Stunticons respectively. So too with the "jet" version of Blast Off from Hasbro, I'll keep him as a back-up member of the Combations from Unite Warriors Bruticus. I've got a working name of "Take Off" for the brown jet. I've got some similar monikers for the Technobot-ish members of Hasbro's Computron set:

Strafe -> Bombard
Lightspeed -> Warpspeed
Nosecone -> Screwdrive
Afterburner -> Reheat

I justify these on the basis that the molds are all different and have different heads(except for Afterburner, in which case only the heads are different between Hasbro and Takara), so, like with Hasbro's Blast Off, I could put them beside their more G1 inspired TakaraTomy versions and say with confidence that they are different characters with similar kinds of alt modes and/or color schemes, but obviously not the same individuals.

[Kurona]

TakaraTomy's Unite Warriors Computron is going to be my defacto Classics Computron, no doubt about it. However, I want Scrounge, and I think I can repurpose most of Hasbro's Technobot limbs as new "alternate" characters, much like how Alpha Bravo and Offroad warm the benches for the Aerialbots and Stunticons respectively. So too with the "jet" version of Blast Off from Hasbro, I'll keep him as a back-up member of the Combations from Unite Warriors Bruticus. I've got a working name of "Take Off" for the brown jet. I've got some similar monikers for the Technobot-ish members of Hasbro's Computron set:

Strafe -> Bombard
Lightspeed -> Warpspeed
Nosecone -> Screwdrive
Afterburner -> Reheat

I justify these on the basis that the molds are all different and have different heads(except for Afterburner, in which case only the heads are different between Hasbro and Takara), so, like with Hasbro's Blast Off, I could put them beside their more G1 inspired TakaraTomy versions and say with confidence that they are different characters with similar kinds of alt modes and/or color schemes, but obviously not the same individuals.

Hasbro's already got you covered for most of them; they had to change most the Technobot's names for licencing purposes or something.

[Wolfman Jake]

Hasbro's already got you covered for most of them; they had to change most the Technobot's names for licencing purposes or something.

What are the new Trademarks we know so far? Scattershot seems to have been retained, but that's of little consequence, since I'm not planning on turning his Hasbro release(s) into any different characters, as he's pretty unmistakably Scattershot with that head sculpt (which Takara Tomy is using as well). For the rest, though, I'm quite intrigued to know what they'll be called.

[Kurona]

Hasbro's already got you covered for most of them; they had to change most the Technobot's names for licencing purposes or something.

What are the new Trademarks we know so far? Scattershot seems to have been retained, but that's of little consequence, since I'm not planning on turning his Hasbro release(s) into any different characters, as he's pretty unmistakably Scattershot with that head sculpt (which Takara Tomy is using as well). For the rest, though, I'm quite intrigued to know what they'll be called.

Lightsteed and Afterbreaker. (Nosecone and Strafe kept their names; I was mistaken about 'most'.)

[Wolfman Jake]

Hasbro's already got you covered for most of them; they had to change most the Technobot's names for licencing purposes or something.

What are the new Trademarks we know so far? Scattershot seems to have been retained, but that's of little consequence, since I'm not planning on turning his Hasbro release(s) into any different characters, as he's pretty unmistakably Scattershot with that head sculpt (which Takara Tomy is using as well). For the rest, though, I'm quite intrigued to know what they'll be called.

Lightsteed and Afterbreaker. (Nosecone and Strafe kept their names; I was mistaken about 'most'.)

Those are pretty hilarious. LightSTEED? Seriously? I think I'll stick to my chosen names. Most of them are at least an attempt to chose something close to the original names' meanings.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Hasbro's already got you covered for most of them; they had to change most the Technobot's names for licencing purposes or something.

What are the new Trademarks we know so far? Scattershot seems to have been retained, but that's of little consequence, since I'm not planning on turning his Hasbro release(s) into any different characters, as he's pretty unmistakably Scattershot with that head sculpt (which Takara Tomy is using as well). For the rest, though, I'm quite intrigued to know what they'll be called.

Lightsteed and Afterbreaker. (Nosecone and Strafe kept their names; I was mistaken about 'most'.)

Those are pretty hilarious. LightSTEED? Seriously? I think I'll stick to my chosen names. Most of them are at least an attempt to chose something close to the original names' meanings.

The Kreo version's name was "Lightstorm", a far cooler name.

[Sowndwave76]

Its fun, I dont think there is an inferior combiner, you both get good stuff for the money. I am choosing Takara though because each member and the combiner himself looks more like their own individual rather than being another toy in a different paint scheme.

It's just interesting to me; with a lot of the points people have made, it does seem like one is inferior. Your last point here really sums up how I see it.
I just prefer figures that accurately look like the characters they're supposedly representing from the show. And when a version comes out that is less accurate with something important like the character's head sculpt or alt mode (especially if it's both), I don't see how that version could be better.

Not trying to start a debate, just glad Takara attempts giving us figures that are solid representations of the characters from the shows.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Will, you are very right about both being good ones. I was glad to see Strafe, but the fact that the other 3 limbs didn't even have new heads really hurts. The combined mode looks awesome, but why couldn't the individuals have had that little extra work

[Hellscream9999]

Wishin' that Scrounge was a normal release, maybe TT can squeeze him into the tav line, but I doubt it

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Quick question inbetween because I can't really tell: is CW Liokaiser's head unchanged from Sky Reign's? Sure looks like it.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Quick question inbetween because I can't really tell: is CW Liokaiser's head unchanged from Sky Reign's? Sure looks like it.

Based on the teaser art we got a while back, It is a new combiner mode head.

[Hellscream9999]

Quick question in between because I can't really tell: is CW Liokaiser's head unchanged from Sky Reign's? Sure looks like it.

The art shows that it will be, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Quick question in between because I can't really tell: is CW Liokaiser's head unchanged from Sky Reign's? Sure looks like it.

The art shows that it will be, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything

Speaking of art, it did clearly show the following molds:

Gaihawk: Air Raid
Hellbat: Skydive
Killbison: Brawl
Drillhorn: Brawl with Nosecone drill

And we're nowhere closer to the torso's identity. O, and I did spot Arms Micron Gul in the stock image.

[ZeroWolf]

Wasn't sky lynx rumoured to actually be deathsarus?