The Energon Pub

[DedicatedGhostArt]

You know who combined well and integrated his parts perfectly into his alt mode?

(Original) RiD Optimus Prime.

To be completely fair, all that core Prime had to do for his combining was spread his shoulders and raise his torso over his head. But yes, his extra parts were well-taken care of. Except his damn pistol. I've lost that thing and then found it and then lost it again several times. I think I've lost it for good this time.

As for integrated combiner parts on scramble combiners, we tried that with FOC Bruticus. The result was kind of terrible. I kind of prefer the hands and feet be separate on the real toys, even if they spawn out of nowhere in fiction. As long as they have somewhere to go and look plausible in other modes, it's good. This works especially well with the Aerialbots, since real jets are known to have underslung missiles. For the cars, I admit it's much more obnoxious, but kids don't care, and adults can put them to the side.

I'll just quote what I said previously:

So don't lose them. (I never did)

Like you said, the feet/hands are ugly when used on the individual modes. Don't get me wrong, I think it's good Hasbro have made the feet/hands work with the individual modes, I just don't think they look good are even necessary.

If anything, they were designed to look good in combined mode, the individual modes were just an after thought. (Mine will be staying combined anyway, except for the outcasts)

My point is, instead of having them as GIANT GUNS SITTING ON TOP OF THE VEHICLE, how bout having them as part of the vehicle? When I'm done designing it, you'll see what I'm talking about.
If I integrate them into the vehicle mode and robot mode as part of him (like for example, the robot mode legs come off and become the APPROPRIATELY SIZED feet in combined mode), you wouldn't even know the pieces are there till you combine him. I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast.

integrated parts are ass

Like I said, they are not if you design them properly.

Not only will my Motormaster be a better torso for your Stunticons, but also an upgrade kit to give him better hands and feet in combined mode.

The hands and feet will NOT be PART of the limbs, but rather part of Motormaster himself (e.g. his legs become the combined mode feet). It's not THAT hard to comprehend. I'm not talking about doing the Bruticus thing at ALL.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So don't lose them. (I never did)

Like you said, the feet/hands are ugly when used on the individual modes. Don't get me wrong, I think it's good Hasbro have made the feet/hands work with the individual modes, I just don't think they look good are even necessary.

If anything, they were designed to look good in combined mode, the individual modes were just an after thought. (Mine will be staying combined anyway, except for the outcasts)

My point is, instead of having them as GIANT GUNS SITTING ON TOP OF THE VEHICLE, how bout having them as part of the vehicle? When I'm done designing it, you'll see what I'm talking about.
If I integrate them into the vehicle mode and robot mode as part of them (like for example, the robot mode legs come off and become the APPROPRIATELY SIZED feet in combined mode), you wouldn't even know the pieces are there till you combine him. I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast.

integrated parts are ass

Like I said, they are not if you design them properly.

Not only will my Motormaster be a better torso for your Stunticons, but also an upgrade kit to give him better hands and feet in combined mode.

In this case I like the hand/foot guns. they integrate fairly well in vehicle mode, can be set a aside in robot mode and make good appendages in combined mode, so to me they were well designed

[Burn]

I KIND of wish the jet hands split down the middle like and you could put half under each wing... that would have been pretty cool.

That would probably work for me actually.

As it is you have one figure, then this big plastic block attached to it which really kills the aestehetic.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Those hand/foot guns are pretty big. dont know how they could be lost anyway

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Those hand/foot guns are pretty big. dont know how they could be lost anyway

Let me explain in a quote:

I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast

*sigh* welcome to Seibertron.com! Where you have to quote yourself literally 3 times to get your point across.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I KIND of wish the jet hands split down the middle like and you could put half under each wing... that would have been pretty cool.

That would probably work for me actually.

As it is you have one figure, then this big plastic block attached to it which really kills the aestehetic.

Yeah, dividing them in 2 would've been really nice

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Those hand/foot guns are pretty big. dont know how they could be lost anyway

Let me explain in a quote:

I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast

*sigh* welcome to Seibertron.com! Where you have to quote yourself literally 3 times to get your point across.

I'm lost...

In short: kids, don't lose the pieces.
Combiner limbs: don't lose your big a$$ gun in battle. that's your extra hand and foot

[Hellscream9999]

Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Those hand/foot guns are pretty big. dont know how they could be lost anyway

Let me explain in a quote:

I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast

*sigh* welcome to Seibertron.com! Where you have to quote yourself literally 3 times to get your point across.

I'm lost...

In short: kids, don't lose the pieces.
Combiner limbs: don't lose your big a$$ gun in battle. that's your extra hand and foot

dragstrip to swindle: "Aw, man, Swindle, ya gotta hook me up, I've lost my hand!"

swindle: "Whaddya mean, it's right there..."

dragstrip: "Naw man, the other hand"

swindle: "It's on your other arm... right?"

dragstrip: "NO; the other, other hand."

swindle: "Wha, ya mean one of those Primus-forsaken obtuse hand/foot combo guns I got y'all way back when you were gonna merge!?! How? How did you lose that thing!? It's literally the size of your entire torso! How in Primus' name did you lose that?"

dragstrip: " .... "

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Those hand/foot guns are pretty big. dont know how they could be lost anyway

Let me explain in a quote:

I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast

*sigh* welcome to Seibertron.com! Where you have to quote yourself literally 3 times to get your point across.

I'm lost...

In short: kids, don't lose the pieces.
Combiner limbs: don't lose your big a$$ gun in battle. that's your extra hand and foot

dragstrip to swindle: "Aw, man, Swindle, ya gotta hook me up, I've lost my hand!"

swindle: "Whaddya mean, it's right there..."

dragstrip: "Naw man, the other hand"

swindle: "It's on your other arm... right?"

dragstrip: "NO; the other, other hand."

swindle: "Wha, ya mean one of those Primus-forsaken obtuse hand/foot combo guns I got y'all way back when you were gonna merge!?! How? How did you lose that thing!? It's literally the size of your entire torso! How in Primus' name did you lose that?"

dragstrip: " .... "

*sigh* no comment.

Just let me be, and you guys will like whatever I come up with regarding my CAD Menasor torso.

As long as mine works better than the Hasbro Menasor torso, then you guys will be happy right? RIGHT??? Gooooood...

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Those hand/foot guns are pretty big. dont know how they could be lost anyway

Let me explain in a quote:

I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast

*sigh* welcome to Seibertron.com! Where you have to quote yourself literally 3 times to get your point across.

I'm lost...

In short: kids, don't lose the pieces.
Combiner limbs: don't lose your big a$$ gun in battle. that's your extra hand and foot

dragstrip to swindle: "Aw, man, Swindle, ya gotta hook me up, I've lost my hand!"

swindle: "Whaddya mean, it's right there..."

dragstrip: "Naw man, the other hand"

swindle: "It's on your other arm... right?"

dragstrip: "NO; the other, other hand."

swindle: "Wha, ya mean one of those Primus-forsaken obtuse hand/foot combo guns I got y'all way back when you were gonna merge!?! How? How did you lose that thing!? It's literally the size of your entire torso! How in Primus' name did you lose that?"

dragstrip: " .... "

Dragstrip: oops, sorry. Must of lost it when I made a wrong turn back there

[D-Maximal_Primal]

And I like my Menasor. He is not the best combiner, but he is still pretty cool. i like him as he is. I am not the type to get 3rd party stuff. I may find it cool, but in the end I have yet to get something unofficial

[DedicatedGhostArt]

And I like my Menasor. He is not the best combiner, but he is still pretty cool. i like him as he is. I am not the type to get 3rd party stuff. I may find it cool, but in the end I have yet to get something unofficial

Hey whatever floats you boat bro!
I am not really the one to go to 3rd party either, unless the Hasbro version is a real stinker, or I just don't want it. I'm aiming toward the audience who doesn't like the Hasbro one.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

[DedicatedGhostArt]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

Probably! Though I don't have Vos...

[D-Maximal_Primal]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

Probably! Though I don't have Vos...

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

[Hellscream9999]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

Probably! Though I don't have Vos...

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

He can be held by the not predaking, so, if your limbs have strong elbows, then, I would think that they could.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

Probably! Though I don't have Vos...

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

He can be held by the not predaking, so, if your limbs have strong elbows, then, I would think that they could.

Using Vos as a gun. Galvatronus could get that much more badass

[Hellscream9999]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

Probably! Though I don't have Vos...

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

He can be held by the not predaking, so, if your limbs have strong elbows, then, I would think that they could.

Using Vos as a gun. Galvatronus could get that much more badass

Indeed, you might have to do the nail polish trick, but if you do, the thigh and knee joints should be able to hold him up.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

Probably! Though I don't have Vos...

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

He can be held by the not predaking, so, if your limbs have strong elbows, then, I would think that they could.

Using Vos as a gun. Galvatronus could get that much more badass

Indeed, you might have to do the nail polish trick, but if you do, the thigh and knee joints should be able to hold him up.

Maybe.

i just noted the irony of my previous statement: Vos killed cyclonus on the alternate lost light....

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

I'm not meaning to be a letdown or anything, but I DON’T THINK Hasbro is gonna make a murdering cult of Decepticons, that includes a member who turns into an electric chair, for kids. I’m sorry.

[Hellscream9999]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

Probably! Though I don't have Vos...

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

He can be held by the not predaking, so, if your limbs have strong elbows, then, I would think that they could.

Using Vos as a gun. Galvatronus could get that much more badass

Indeed, you might have to do the nail polish trick, but if you do, the thigh and knee joints should be able to hold him up.

Maybe.

i just noted the irony of my previous statement: Vos killed cyclonus on the alternate lost light....

Huh, well, I'm sure that won't be awkward at all

[Hellscream9999]

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

I'm not meaning to be a letdown or anything, but I DON’T THINK Hasbro is gonna make a murdering cult of Decepticons, that includes a member who turns into an electric chair, for kids. I’m sorry.

Gotta side with you there, plus another decepti-gun, probably not happening

Honestly I'd be happy with Vos and Tarn

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

I'm not meaning to be a letdown or anything, but I DON’T THINK Hasbro is gonna make a murdering cult of Decepticons, that includes a member who turns into an electric chair, for kids. I’m sorry.

Gotta side with you there, plus another decepti-gun, probably not happening

Honestly I'd be happy with Vos and Tarn

We have to remember that Hasbro is a brand that makes figures NOT just for collectors, but for kids. The More than Meets the Eye comic from IDW is Violent sometimes, so don’t expect every, single character to be given a figure officially.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

BTW: Seeing as how there is a 3rd party Vos and he has a handle compatible with hasbro transformers, do you think a combiner would wield him in combined mode?

Probably! Though I don't have Vos...

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

He can be held by the not predaking, so, if your limbs have strong elbows, then, I would think that they could.

Using Vos as a gun. Galvatronus could get that much more badass

Indeed, you might have to do the nail polish trick, but if you do, the thigh and knee joints should be able to hold him up.

Maybe.

i just noted the irony of my previous statement: Vos killed cyclonus on the alternate lost light....

Huh, well, I'm sure that won't be awkward at all

Yeah.... Awkward turtle swimming around....

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Supposedly this company is making all the DJD members (something hasbro needs to get on). I'm onboard to watch and enjoy the ride

I'm not meaning to be a letdown or anything, but I DON’T THINK Hasbro is gonna make a murdering cult of Decepticons, that includes a member who turns into an electric chair, for kids. I’m sorry.

Gotta side with you there, plus another decepti-gun, probably not happening

Honestly I'd be happy with Vos and Tarn

We have to remember that Hasbro is a brand that makes figures NOT just for collectors, but for kids. The More than Meets the Eye comic from IDW is Violent sometimes, so don’t expect every, single character to be given a figure officially.

Even so, I would really like a Tarn. That guy is awesome. Sound chip included