DMSL wrote:Alpha Weltall wrote:DMSL wrote:I am sorry but Alpha Bravo gets no love from me. The alt mode just annoys the crap out of me. I still don't like this whole line either. The idea is awesome but the execution is poor. I don't understand why Hasbro is taking a step back and making less articulated figures with simplistic transformations. On top of that they lack detail and paint aps all over and have way too many hollow parts. The combined hand/foot is also not doing it for me.
Lol what? The alt mode looks rather good actually, it's just lacking landing gear. How exactly is the execution poor? Where are people getting that these are somehow less articulated? It has a head swivel at the very least, it also has ball jointed hips and shoulders, swivels at the biceps and thighs, hinges at the knees and elbows and waist rotation. It seems to me that compared to standard deluxe figures, it has one more point of articulation and that being the waist joint and EVERY limb bot will have that. The combined modes have universal shoulders and hips, bicep swivels, double jointed elbows, wrist swivels, thumb and slight hand articulation, knee hinges and possibly thigh and waist swivels depending on the torso.
Hasbro has been doing simplified transformation for a few years now so that's nothing new. Where do you see it lacking in detail? Both robot mode and helicopter mode seem to have plenty of detail throughout. It also has a lot of paint on it. More than I've seen in a while on a deluxe actually. The entire chest is painted that color, the head and eyes are painted, the multitude of windows on the cockpit are all painted as is the underside and lets not forget the blue stripes on the sides and the missiles if they're not a separate piece to the lower arms. It also doesn't look any more hollow than Classics Astrotrain is considering it seems to transform almost the exact same way. However, I can see why people don't like the hand/foot design but I like it.
I really don't see what more people would want out of these. It they did any more to them they'd have to sell the deluxes at voyager prices and the voyagers at ultra prices. That won't work at all for Hasbro. People seem to think that they can just load up on big box figures but they can't because of how brick and mortar stores work their shelving spaces out. They'd never be able to sell two combiners at eight voyagers and two ultra/leader/weaponizers/whateverthey'recallednow. They just don't have the same luxuries that third party companies have but at the same time they have more in other areas. It's just that the less luxuries they have mean that they can't get every single figure perfect every single time. Some shortcuts and cost cutting measures need to be taken in order for Hasbro to continue to do anything. The funny thing though is that I don't see many cost cutting measures with these new combiner wars figures. They really do look great.
Are people still just hating on this guy simply because he's not Slingshot? Get over it already. Hasbro has every right to change and evolve their brand and characters. If you want a Superion that looks 100% like G1 Superion, then just buy yourself a G1 Superion already and shut up about it already. I typed it on another site and someone typed something similar here as well that one of the reasons they've changed one jet into a helicopter and one car into an suv was because parents, the main people buying these, won't understand or want to buy four almost identical toys just for one combiner they might not even know or care about. It's also why they're not selling complete combiner teams at the same time. They're changing the alt modes and colors up enough to make them more appealing on the shelves. They have to think of these as standalone figures because of how their main buyers think. They seemed to have learned their lesson from the movies where they were selling the same alt modes, colors and names every wave and they weren't selling at all by the time the third movie came out. Parents were just tired of buying what they thought was the same toys over and over and over and over and over again.
It's called an opinion mate.
I loved G1 and if they make classics versions i want them to be as close as possible. A team of planes with one helicopter makes no sense to me.
The figures look bland compared to much of the other classic figures. As i see it, there is a lot of room for detail, painted or sculpted. The hollow parts just look awful and most if not all have them.
I just think Hasbro could have done a much better job with these.
Except that most of what you typed wasn't an opinion and where it was I addressed it as such.
Where is it stated that the Aerialbots are a team of planes? They're not called the Airplanebots. Again, this is Hasbro taking their characters and intellectual properties and expanding upon and evolving them. Aerialbots could mean anything that takes flight. They could make Airaid a flying saucer, Fireflight a bomber like Scourge or Megatron and Slingshot the Goodyear blimp and it will still work. I can understand loving the originals but to hate on something because it's new, different or reimagined makes no sense to me. Do you also hate Generations Scourge because he's not a flying boat? What about Classics Astrotrain, he's not a steam engine anymore. How about every Megatron other than Classics and the legends class Megatron, none of them are guns.
Finally an opinion. While they might look bland to you they look completely on par with every Classics, Universe or Generations figure that they're meant to go with to me. In fact, I think they look better than most of the Generations figures as of late.
As I already pointed out, there is a lot of paint on Alpha Bravo. The other figures look to have a lot of paint on them as well. Maybe not Dragstrip but from what I can see, almost all of the other do. Also, what hollow parts? If you were talking about Jetfire I would agree with you somewhat but not these other figures. However, even Classics Jetfire had huge hollow cavities on his arms when you took his launchers off but nobody seemed to mind it back then. Sure the new Jetfire's thighs and biceps have hollow spaces but so do countless other Transformers over the years. Looking at a few figures in front of me right now I can say that first edition Bulkhead has quite a few hollow parts yet it's considered to be one of the best Transformers. Generations Straxus has the same hollow thighs and biceps as most figures do now as well as hollow calves. PRID Wheeljack has the same thigh and bicep problems. PRID Kup/Ironhide has many gap problems all over as well. What about Classics Sideswipe/Sunstreaker? Classics Prowl/Smokescreen/Silverstreak and Ironhide/Ratchet are just as bad. Classics Hot Rod and Starscream also have empty forearms and gap problems in their chests and other spots just as some of the newer figures do. This isn't a new problem. It's been here for years and isn't going away. If they were to make all these gaps go away then the prices would skyrocket as they'd need more plastic and engineering. If Hasbro had it's own store with it's own pricing and shelving then they might just get rid of some of these problems but stores like Walmart want things to be certain prices and those things have to go in certain places only which is another reason that some figures have hollow parts and less paints and detailing than others. These new figures also don't look to have any less sculpted detail than any of the figures I mentioned and even more paint than most of them as well.
You might think that they needed to do a better job but from as far as I can tell from my collection over the past few decades, they're spot on. Completely in line with what Hasbro has been doing back before people complained so much. Before the overpriced, over engineered third party figures.
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