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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Legacy Evolution is still the same line as regular Legacy, right? If so, I dread seeing Wave 1 and nothing else for months to come...

Unfortunately there is no clear answer on that. If L:E SKU's the same as L, then yes, it's likely retailers wont carry it. But that was the whole reason Hasbro switched to packaging refresh every year starting with PotP. I mean we could argue that "Prime Wars" and "WFC" were 3 year lines (Well Prime Wars was technically 4 but...), with new packaging each year so that retailers would keep ordering.

Legacy Evolution does have new packaging art, but if it SKU's the same as Legacy, then Hasbro kind of undid what they attempted to fix back in 2018.

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o.supreme wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Legacy Evolution is still the same line as regular Legacy, right? If so, I dread seeing Wave 1 and nothing else for months to come...

Unfortunately there is no clear answer on that. If L:E SKU's the same as L, then yes, it's likely retailers wont carry it. But that was the whole reason Hasbro switched to packaging refresh every year starting with PotP. I mean we could argue that "Prime Wars" and "WFC" were 3 year lines (Well Prime Wars was technically 4 but...), with new packaging each year so that retailers would keep ordering.

Legacy Evolution does have new packaging art, but if it SKU's the same as Legacy, then Hasbro kind of undid what they attempted to fix back in 2018.

Did the fix work? If we compare it to Studio Series, for instance, which doesn't have a line refresh, did we see more yearly refreshes of Generations toys or Studio Series toys? The first wave of the various generations lines have been well stocked but beyond that, I don't know (then again, that alone might make it better stocked than SS).

Also, on a different topic, I am rather impressed at how well Motromaster sold. he is sold out practically everywhere in Canada and the US at the moment. I don't know if there is more to come.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Legacy Evolution is still the same line as regular Legacy, right? If so, I dread seeing Wave 1 and nothing else for months to come...

Unfortunately there is no clear answer on that. If L:E SKU's the same as L, then yes, it's likely retailers wont carry it. But that was the whole reason Hasbro switched to packaging refresh every year starting with PotP. I mean we could argue that "Prime Wars" and "WFC" were 3 year lines (Well Prime Wars was technically 4 but...), with new packaging each year so that retailers would keep ordering.

Legacy Evolution does have new packaging art, but if it SKU's the same as Legacy, then Hasbro kind of undid what they attempted to fix back in 2018.

Did the fix work? If we compare it to Studio Series, for instance, which doesn't have a line refresh, did we see more yearly refreshes of Generations toys or Studio Series toys? The first wave of the various generations lines have been well stocked but beyond that, I don't know (then again, that alone might make it better stocked than SS).

Also, on a different topic, I am rather impressed at how well Motromaster sold. he is sold out practically everywhere in Canada and the US at the moment. I don't know if there is more to come.

He seems to have done well here too. I never seen a physical copy of him in stores but did however see the barcode/price sticker ON shelves where he should be, so it was likely just ships in the night. Which is a bummer bc I'd been banking on picking him up on sale similar to how I got Sky Lynk and Rowdy Roddy Prime

M. Spector wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Legacy Evolution is still the same line as regular Legacy, right? If so, I dread seeing Wave 1 and nothing else for months to come...

Unfortunately there is no clear answer on that. If L:E SKU's the same as L, then yes, it's likely retailers wont carry it. But that was the whole reason Hasbro switched to packaging refresh every year starting with PotP. I mean we could argue that "Prime Wars" and "WFC" were 3 year lines (Well Prime Wars was technically 4 but...), with new packaging each year so that retailers would keep ordering.

Legacy Evolution does have new packaging art, but if it SKU's the same as Legacy, then Hasbro kind of undid what they attempted to fix back in 2018.

Did the fix work? If we compare it to Studio Series, for instance, which doesn't have a line refresh, did we see more yearly refreshes of Generations toys or Studio Series toys? The first wave of the various generations lines have been well stocked but beyond that, I don't know (then again, that alone might make it better stocked than SS).

Also, on a different topic, I am rather impressed at how well Motromaster sold. he is sold out practically everywhere in Canada and the US at the moment. I don't know if there is more to come.

He seems to have done well here too. I never seen a physical copy of him in stores but did however see the barcode/price sticker ON shelves where he should be, so it was likely just ships in the night. Which is a bummer bc I'd been banking on picking him up on sale similar to how I got Sky Lynk and Rowdy Roddy Prime

Yeah same here, I've been able to get all commanders on sale. As of right now, I have missed out on motormaster, but we'll see. The quantities still seem really low, I think not all stock has been alloted yet, especially when the limbs outside of Dragstrip arent even common at retail yet.

william-james88 wrote:Yeah same here, I've been able to get all commanders on sale. As of right now, I have missed out on motormaster, but we'll see. The quantities still seem really low, I think not all stock has been alloted yet, especially when the limbs outside of Dragstrip arent even common at retail yet.

I'm not taking any chances with the Stunticons so I preordered and paid everything at full price. Now if only that sonovabitch Breakdown would REALLY come out already...

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Yeah same here, I've been able to get all commanders on sale. As of right now, I have missed out on motormaster, but we'll see. The quantities still seem really low, I think not all stock has been alloted yet, especially when the limbs outside of Dragstrip arent even common at retail yet.

I'm not taking any chances with the Stunticons so I preordered and paid everything at full price. Now if only that sonovabitch Breakdown would REALLY come out already...

I don't blame you (or anyone)... After seeing Dragstrip go on sale on Amazon multiple times, my plan was to wait until Dead End and Breakdown went on similar sales.
And I'm glad I never canceled my preorders for Breakdown with Amazon, because it seems like IF those ever go on sale, you'd have to have extremely lucky timing for that to work out.

I snagged one Dead End from my Target, and it had have been a random return. There's been no sign of any wave 3 deluxes anywhere in my area.
So now it will be interesting to see if the next Stunticon I see in a store is Dead End or Breakdown.

I don't recall ever seeing a Commander in stores since 2019, got both Roddy and Motormaster online.

I never saw the Dragstrip sales or I might have gotten him then, originally I was going to just pass on him as I didn't care mush for the character of the looks of the bot. Then it occurred to me I probably should get it for completion sakes. I also planned to get them all on sale but now that seems very unlikely.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't recall ever seeing a Commander in stores since 2019, got both Roddy and Motormaster online.

I never saw the Dragstrip sales or I might have gotten him then, originally I was going to just pass on him as I didn't care mush for the character of the looks of the bot. Then it occurred to me I probably should get it for completion sakes. I also planned to get them all on sale but now that seems very unlikely.

Now that I’m thinking about it, I haven’t ever seen a Commander Class figure in-store.

Amazon had Dragstrip for either $20.99 or $19.99 a couple times.
Kickback was $17.99 for a while…
But I would say waiting for any of the last 3 to go on a sale now is a risky roll of the dice.
It will probably happen, but you’ll need a lot of luck to actually get any of them before they’re gone.
I’m getting my second Dead End from TFSource.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't recall ever seeing a Commander in stores since 2019, got both Roddy and Motormaster online.

I never saw the Dragstrip sales or I might have gotten him then, originally I was going to just pass on him as I didn't care mush for the character of the looks of the bot. Then it occurred to me I probably should get it for completion sakes. I also planned to get them all on sale but now that seems very unlikely.

Now that I’m thinking about it, I haven’t ever seen a Commander Class figure in-store.

I've seen Jetfire, Sky Lynx and possibly Rodimus Prime at Target and Walmart, but never more than 2 boxes at once.

From what I'm reading, somebody dropped the ball when it came to the distribution of the Stunticons. I really think they should've been a whole wave onto themselves.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:I don't recall ever seeing a Commander in stores since 2019, got both Roddy and Motormaster online.

I never saw the Dragstrip sales or I might have gotten him then, originally I was going to just pass on him as I didn't care mush for the character of the looks of the bot. Then it occurred to me I probably should get it for completion sakes. I also planned to get them all on sale but now that seems very unlikely.

Now that I’m thinking about it, I haven’t ever seen a Commander Class figure in-store.

I've seen Jetfire, Sky Lynx and possibly Rodimus Prime at Target and Walmart, but never more than 2 boxes at once.

I've seen them all in store, except Jetfire. I got all mine online, except Sky-Lynx, who I got at Target 9where I've seen them). I've never seen ANY of them at Walmart.

Walmart would not have carried Skylinx or RP in store, since they clearanced out Jetfire quickly because they didn't want to carry CC for some reason.

I got my Jetfire from Walmart during it's initial release. Skylinx from Target. Rodimus from Amazon ( due to stores in my area not carrying it). And Motormaster from Target, which I'm coming to appreciate more and more how rare this sighting was ( and it was actually my daughter that found it, not me). So despite me having all CC so far,I only ever saw the first 2 at B&M, although thelast 3 have been confirmed at different Targets

chuckdawg1999 wrote:From what I'm reading, somebody dropped the ball when it came to the distribution of the Stunticons. I really think they should've been a whole wave onto themselves.

I like that idea, until that’s a wave that can’t be found because of distribution issues…
Maybe two in wave 1, Motormaster in wave 2, and the last two in wave 3… I would’ve been really happy with that.
Now, I do think all 3 Insecticons should’ve been released within 9 months in 3 consecutive waves.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:From what I'm reading, somebody dropped the ball when it came to the distribution of the Stunticons. I really think they should've been a whole wave onto themselves.

I like that idea, until that’s a wave that can’t be found because of distribution issues…
Maybe two in wave 1, Motormaster in wave 2, and the last two in wave 3… I would’ve been really happy with that.
Now, I do think all 3 Insecticons should’ve been released within 9 months in 3 consecutive waves.

Anything would be better than this.

It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

ZeroWolf wrote:It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

Not to mention, the Cons getting entire waves to themselves is a rarity, that's a luxury that's typically only given to the good guys. In fact, the last time there was an all-Con Deluxe wave was also in Combiner Wars when the Combaticons hit the scene, and 90% of the time it happens in any other size class it only happens because that wave contains at least some of the 3 most bankable Cons in the franchise (the Legacy rereleases of both Core and Voyager Soundwave, for example).

o.supreme wrote:Walmart would not have carried Skylinx or RP in store, since they clearanced out Jetfire quickly because they didn't want to carry CC for some reason.

Walmart carried Rodimus Prime in store. I saw him a couple times.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Walmart carried Rodimus Prime in store. I saw him a couple times.

Was that in Canada by chance? If not, they could have been online returns.

At any rate, it seems kind of odd already having about half of L:E wave 1, and they really haven't shown up at retail in the U.S. at all yet. (save for the once exception I posted yesterday). Also it wasn't from Robot Kingdom or another international seller, just plain old Amazon.com.

Pre-Orders are certainly nothing new, and I understand they dont mean getting the item first. There were plenty of other times in the past I cancelled online pre-orders when I found something in-store first. But moving forward it seems the way to go since finding things at B&M is becoming less likely. Not necessarily because of distribution issues, but because the big 2 in the U.S. (Target and Walmart) just aren't carrying them in the quantities they were previously.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

Not to mention, the Cons getting entire waves to themselves is a rarity, that's a luxury that's typically only given to the good guys. In fact, the last time there was an all-Con Deluxe wave was also in Combiner Wars when the Combaticons hit the scene, and 90% of the time it happens in any other size class it only happens because that wave contains at least some of the 3 most bankable Cons in the franchise (the Legacy rereleases of both Core and Voyager Soundwave, for example).

I find wave 3 of Legacy absolutely mind boggling, there's only one Autobot across all classes, the rest are either Decepticons or Predacons. The entire line ratio is pretty off when it comes to retail figure, 10 Autobots and 22 Decepticons and Predacons. Pretty crazy.

o.supreme wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Walmart carried Rodimus Prime in store. I saw him a couple times.

Was that in Canada by chance? If not, they could have been online returns.

Definitely not online returns, this was one of my local Walmarts, they had a ton of them. December 19, 2021.



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My nearest Walmart never carried any Commander class toys.

My walmarts never got the commanders either. And Target to my knowledge and sightings only ever got Sky Lynx.

I really hope none of you missed this king. He is so good

Sabrblade wrote:My nearest Walmart never carried any Commander class toys.

I never, ever saw any Commanders at Walmart too. Just online, my local geek store, and at Toys R Us.

Right now, you can still find Rodimus Prime in TrU's brick and mortar stores on clearance at 84$CAN. Strangely, I never saw Motormaster in a TrU store.

At one Target, I did see empty shelf spots reserved for Motormaster, but they were always empty with no Motormasters on the shelf. And now those spots are gone, too.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:My nearest Walmart never carried any Commander class toys.

I never, ever saw any Commanders at Walmart too. Just online, my local geek store, and at Toys R Us.

Right now, you can still find Rodimus Prime in TrU's brick and mortar stores on clearance at 84$CAN. Strangely, I never saw Motormaster in a TrU store.

Motormaster sold like crazy in Canada. Looks like people were ok with that $140 price.