Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:There's always the red and blue ones that came with the Tricranius set.Razorbeast88 wrote:I wouldve loved an animated blitzwing done right
They could've even given different colored blast effects to mimic the fire and ice thing
And, are blast effects even a thing anymore in Legacy?
Very true, but no three faces or double turret tank. Closest thing would be if an upgrade kit comes out but even then
Good point, I'm not sure that they are. The rereleases will still be bloosh compatible as emgo would say, but im not sure about the rest
Tuned Agent wrote:Thoughts on yesterday's reveals:
...That being said, are we sure this mold was made to be Minerva first and foremost? The alt mode and robot details are nothing like Minerva's, and if the recent Wreckers comic is anything to go by, only the head is getting retooled. It looks to me more like Elita 1 was the one this mold was designed for, and Minerva is just the headswap retool, with the shoulder pylons being designed in to make the mold more versatile.
MeGrimlock78 wrote:Agh! $124.99 on Amazon.ca for Motormaster...those are Commander-class prices!
*edit* I'm an idiot. I thought he was Leaderclass, my bad.
Legacy Evolution
Core: Optimus Prime
Deluxe: Wild Rider, Elita 1, Ko Prime, Tarantulas
Voyager: Jhiaxus, S Soundwave Pr
Leader: Blitzwing, Galvatron, Optimus Prime
william-james88 wrote:Can someone help me out here? I'm reading online that the presentation helped some understand how Wild Rider's backpack was necessary for the combining component. HOW? I took the opposite message from the presentation. Seeing that all that was needed was for the car to lie flat and have some plug in holes, there was very little in the way of limiting the robot mode's look. They could have made a transformation where the wheels do end up on the shoulders.
alekese wrote:william-james88 wrote:Can someone help me out here? I'm reading online that the presentation helped some understand how Wild Rider's backpack was necessary for the combining component. HOW? I took the opposite message from the presentation. Seeing that all that was needed was for the car to lie flat and have some plug in holes, there was very little in the way of limiting the robot mode's look. They could have made a transformation where the wheels do end up on the shoulders.
The front third of the car bends at a 90 degree angle to become the back half of the foot. If the wheels were on the shoulders, then they would have needed to have the arms form from the engine block, and the doors would have to be backpack wings anyways to replace no longer having those kibble panels on the arms.
william-james88 wrote:It is a Wreckers themed line that will include two packs and the like. The Wreckers will all be redecos of previously released toys but there will be new tooling found on 2 fossilizers. Here is a breakdown of the characters rumoured to be in that line:
Deluxe Impactor redeco
Deluxe Leadfoot ( from kingdom mirage)
Deluxe Topspin
Deluxe Twintwist
Voyager Springer redeco
Voyager Bulkhead redeco
Fossilizer Mammoth
Fossilizer Spinosaurus
It is also rumoured that the jumpstarters will not have their traditional colours.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
This conflicts with my headcanon of Kingdom Skywarp being the G1 guy who switched sidesSabrblade wrote:Otherwise known as Beast Wars Skywasp.
That's not Elita's real cartoon model. It's a fanmade one.primalxconvoy wrote:
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Why? Skywasp isn't G1 Skywarp. He's a Predacon analogue, like what BW Megatron and BWII Starscream are to G1 Megatron and Starscream.Autobot N wrote:This conflicts with my headcanon of Kingdom Skywarp being the G1 guy who switched sidesSabrblade wrote:Otherwise known as Beast Wars Skywasp.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
It kinda seemed like they were the same guy since he has the same prankster personality trait as the originalSabrblade wrote:Why? Skywasp isn't G1 Skywarp. He's a Predacon analogue, like what BW Megatron and BWII Starscream are to G1 Megatron and Starscream.Autobot N wrote:This conflicts with my headcanon of Kingdom Skywarp being the G1 guy who switched sidesSabrblade wrote:Otherwise known as Beast Wars Skywasp.
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Jhiaxus retooled into Armada Thrust, I can actually see that, but would they make a Voyager Thrust?
Emerje
Thrust is usually a voyager, as are seekers, these days. Him not being a voyager would be more odd for me.
Sowndwave76 wrote:Thanks to Will and whoever else helped news Target's preorder link for Motormaster...
I still can't believe how horrible their website is... What a joke.
blackeyedprime wrote:well, I think we can all look at Tr Galvatron and say his head could have been worse hahahah (even if its still better figure than the recent one)
https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/product/act ... KhY3xwev58
Tuned Agent wrote:...That being said, are we sure this mold was made to be Minerva first and foremost? The alt mode and robot details are nothing like Minerva's, and if the recent Wreckers comic is anything to go by, only the head is getting retooled. It looks to me more like Elita 1 was the one this mold was designed for, and Minerva is just the headswap retool, with the shoulder pylons being designed in to make the mold more versatile.
Sabrblade wrote:Otherwise known as Beast Wars Skywasp.
Emerje wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:Thanks to Will and whoever else helped news Target's preorder link for Motormaster...
I still can't believe how horrible their website is... What a joke.
Will had nothing to do with it...
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Jhiaxus retooled into Armada Thrust, I can actually see that, but would they make a Voyager Thrust?
Emerje
Thrust is usually a voyager, as are seekers, these days. Him not being a voyager would be more odd for me.
Armada Thrust, not G1. He's only had two previous figures, both Deluxe.
Tuned Agent wrote:...That being said, are we sure this mold was made to be Minerva first and foremost?
Well, BW Starscream is a self-serving schemer and backstabber. BW Megatron is a tyrannical conqueror with ambitions of ruling Cybertron. BW Optimus is a brave defender of justice and freedom. Some things are just constant with certain names or name homages.Autobot N wrote:It kinda seemed like they were the same guy since he has the same prankster personality trait as the originalSabrblade wrote:Why? Skywasp isn't G1 Skywarp. He's a Predacon analogue, like what BW Megatron and BWII Starscream are to G1 Megatron and Starscream.Autobot N wrote:This conflicts with my headcanon of Kingdom Skywarp being the G1 guy who switched sidesSabrblade wrote:Otherwise known as Beast Wars Skywasp.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Although funnily enough, this mold blows toon accuracy on the Minerva end too, since it's influenced by the IDW design (which itself my have been influenced by either Fans Hobby or Animated) which has completely different arms compared to the G1 toy and cartoon, and a different chest.william-james88 wrote:Hasbro is trying to be toon accurate now, more than ever. So it makes absolutely no sense that they wouldn't give Elita her actual cybertronian alt mode unless this tooling was made to give to a character that has an earth mode.
For my money, the fanmade model is in fact much closer to that prefinal than it is to the Legacy toy. The person doing the comparison is using a photo of Legacy Elita that severely foreshortens the car mode's Armada Hot Shot-esque aft (and is underestimating the more straight edge of the front bumper).Sabrblade wrote:That's not Elita's real cartoon model. It's a fanmade one.primalxconvoy wrote:
This is (a preliminary version of) her real one:
Tuned Agent wrote:...That being said, are we sure this mold was made to be Minerva first and foremost? The alt mode and robot details are nothing like Minerva's, and if the recent Wreckers comic is anything to go by, only the head is getting retooled.
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