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Ever since 2007, when Hasbro changed the style of the Autobot and Decepticon logos for the live action films, these slightly different symbols have been found on non movie toys, like certain versions of Masterpiece Skywarp, which can be seen below.
More than that, it seems both symbols are used interchangeably at times in the assembly line when it comes to tampographs. As can be seen in the image of Generations Payload, one has the G1 autobot insignia (with larger eyes) while the other has the movie version of the insignia. This difference creates variants in the market.
We now have a new victim in the Power of the Primes line with legends Slash. Even amongst toys found in the very same case, Slash has been found with both a G1 and Movie version of the autobot insignia. There are images below to show the comparison. From in hand images of the figure found online, it seems the version with the movie insignia is the rarer of the two.
It is currently unknown if Slash is the only one to have insignia variants such as these in Power of the Primes so check our toys and get back to us if you see that yours is using the wrong insignia.

Something I forgot to mention, but did cross my mind earlier: My local Toys R Us had whole racks filled with discount Blitzwing. While I don't intended to do so (too costly and too long) it occured to me this would certainly make for some impressive army-building for some Overcharge-type Terrorbots.

Not gonna happen but you gotta admit that army-building voyagers would have certainly been the stuff of madness!

However, this got me thinking if PotP will have any army-builder-type Legends class.

Skritz wrote:However, this got me thinking if PotP will have any army-builder-type Legends class.

It already does with Skrapnel

We had seen some new Power of the Primes artwork three months ago with no idea as to where it would be found or what it was done for. We knew it wasn't the box art nor for cards since this artwork had several characters rather than just the one. As it turns out, that new artwork was meant for the in store displays. This was not obvious at first since it is only found on the sides of a black cardboard center aisle display which Walmart tends to cover up when forming center aisle squares (which you can see in the first image below).

However, your intrepid editor used all his might and pushed aside the neighboring cardboard shelving to see the artwork on the sides. One side features Optimus Primal while the other features Optimus Prime and both are surrounded by Prime Masters. So far, these displays have only been found in Canada where all wave one legends, deluxe and voyager class toys from Power of the Primes have been found for $12.97, $19.97, and $29.97 respectively. What is odd is that this is unlike the circular in store display Hasbro previously showed that they had designed specifically for this line.

A really cool aspect of this artwork are the 15 Prime symbols found at the edge. Yes, you read that right, 15. We only know the first twelve, which Jelze GoldRabbit list below:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:From top to bottom, they are:

Megatronus
Vector Prime
Prima
Alchemist Prime
Quintus Prime
Amalgamous Prime
Nexus Prime
Solus Prime
Onyx Prime
Liege Maximo
Micronus
Alpha Trion

... and the last three are unknown for now. I do suspect the bottom one is for The Arisen as it looks like the face of Optimus Prime.

For a full list of what we know is to come in the Power of the Primes line, please click here.

william-james88 wrote:

Skritz wrote:However, this got me thinking if PotP will have any army-builder-type Legends class.

It already does with Skrapnel

I've already got my Insecticon swarm completed. I army built "Skrapnel" back during the Thrilling 30 line, so, like TR Cosmos, this reissue does little for me. That makes me wonder, though, how Hasbro is choosing these reissues of late. I can understand Cosmos, as he was a bit hard to find initially in the Trilling 30 line, but I think that cleared up later in the year after he and his wave mate Swerve finally started showing up outside of East Asian retail.

If I had to pick a "rare" release from that time frame that fans need to complete their Minibot collections, I'd have gone with Gears. I think the only one I saw in stores was the one I bought. Same with his wave mate Acid Storm. Skrapnel wasn't hard to find either, hence my ability to army build him without difficulty. These are just weird choices.

If Hasbro needed to pad the line with figures that are already tooled from years past to save money, why not throw in the TR repaints of Rumble and Rewind as Frenzy and Eject. Fans WANT these badly! They don't have to make any new tooling, and Hasbro is obviously willing to change up plastic colors and paint apps, given that the reissues of Cosmos and Skrapnel are slightly different in coloring from their original Thrilling 30 versions. As a bonus, the Rumble and Rewind molds are already Prime Master compatible, since they use the same basic interfaces with the Titan Master figures with which they were originally designed to interact. Cosmos and Skrapnel have no interactivity in this regard, making their reissues stand out even more in toy lines purposely designed for cross size class play. It's just baffling, honestly.

Ok, that's where the whole "15 Prime symbols" came from...

From top to bottom, they are:

Megatronus
Vector Prime
Prima
Alchemist Prime
Quintus Prime
Amalgamous Prime
Nexus Prime
Solus Prime
Onyx Prime
Liege Maximo
Micronus
Alpha Trion

... and the last three are unknown for now. I do suspect the bottom one is for The Arisen as it looks like the face of Optimus Prime.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, that's where the whole "15 Prime symbols" came from...

From top to bottom, they are:

Megatronus
Vector Prime
Prima
Alchemist Prime
Quintus Prime
Amalgamous Prime
Nexus Prime
Solus Prime
Onyx Prime
Liege Maximo
Micronus
Alpha Trion

... and the last three are unknown for now. I do suspect the bottom one is for The Arisen as it looks like the face of Optimus Prime.

The Matrix
The Enigma of Combination
The Arisen (?)

We have some pretty big news for UK Transformers fans thanks to ToyBoxSoapBox over on twitter! English toy retailer Smyths has just put up listings for the Transformers Power of the Primes wave 1 Voyager class figures! Yes, two new listings for Voyager Grimlock and Starscream have cropped up, and, while currently out of stock, do offer up some new stock photos! These photos are a much better representation of the new figures than the traditional Hasbro photography. Check out a couple mirrored below, and then check out the rest over on the Smyths Website!








These listings will definitely be ones to watch if you live in the UK and are interested in adding these brand new figures to your collection!

Stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Transformers News and Reviews from all around the world!

Guys, I have some bad news. I just bought all of wave 1 aside from the Primes Masters and Leaders and that Grimlock is probably the worst figure. He is a great big piece of **** that wont stay tabbed in and with ugly ass gaps. The other two deluxe dinobots I have dont suffer much from the added combiner gimmick but Grimlock does, A LOT.

Man I wish local stores had displays and shelves like this. I suspect they most likely will be stuck with Titans Return leftovers for the next 3-4 months...

Speaking of Enigmas and Matrices: anybody find it odd that the Engimas are all different, yet the Matrix Cores are all the same sculpt?

Grimlock definitely does not do it for me with that alt mode....which is pretty key for him. I wasn't crazy about Slag, so I skipped on him, too -- but I love Slash & Swoop. I'm interested in Snarl, though! We'll see how PotP Snarl looks in-person before I decide.

william-james88 wrote:Guys, I have some bad news. I just bought all of wave 1 aside from the Primes Masters and Leaders and that Grimlock is probably the worst figure. He is a great big piece of **** that wont stay tabbed in and with ugly ass gaps. The other two deluxe dinobots I have dont suffer much from the added combiner gimmick but Grimlock does, A LOT.

Well that doesn't sound great. Anyone else have any at least decent experiences with him or should I just cancel my preorder?

Bronzewolf wrote:We have some pretty big news for UK Transformers fans thanks to ToyBoxSoapBox over on twitter! English toy retailer Smyths has just put up listings for the Transformers Power of the Primes wave 1 Voyager class figures! Yes, two new listings for Voyager Grimlock and Starscream have cropped up, and, while currently out of stock, do offer up some new stock photos! These photos are a much better representation of the new figures than the traditional Hasbro photography. Check out a couple mirrored below, and then check out the rest over on the Smyths Website!








These listings will definitely be ones to watch if you live in the UK and are interested in adding these brand new figures to your collection!

Stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Transformers News and Reviews from all around the world!

They are also listed on the Irish Smyths site as well for €29 which makes them cheaper that the Titans Return Voyagers.

https://www.smythstoys.com/ie/en-ie/toy ... /164587001

<Venting stuff about Smyths>

Hey nemesisorion, that was a mighty fine rant of yours, but it was a little over the top. You're more than welcome to vent your frustrations but do it within the rules of the forums.

Cheers.

Knightsword wrote:The Matrix
The Enigma of Combination

Probably not. The first one only vaguely looks like a Matrix, I feel like Hasbro would have gone for something a little more on the nose and easily recognized as a Matrix. The second one I would think it was an Enigma it would have five points to represent the five members instead of six.

I'm probably wrong, but I'm going with the top being Primus and the bottom being Unicron. The first one reminds me of the circular formations on the surface of Cybertron while the second reminds me of Unicron's planet jaws as seen in G1 (not the clamping jaws from the Unicron Trilogy).

Emerje

HTS has free shipping today with code 12DEALS. I just ordered the 3 Prime Masters. Woohoo!

The images mirrored below are courtesy of regular news source Tf-factory on social media platform Weibo, and show a number of upcoming figures, or rather, their packaging, from Transformers Power of the Primes. Specifically, we have the bios and back of Voyagers Elita-1, Inferno and Hun Gurr, plus Deluxe Moonracer
and, in a surprising twist in the books, we have a new small teaser of a figure not previously known to make its appearance - character or mold - in the toyline: the back of packaging card for a Decepticon Blast Off, which looks suspiciously similar to the Takara Tomy version of the character in the Unite Warriors release for Bruticus (the Japanese version of Combiner Wars).

Take a look at all of them below, and let us know what you think of the surprising find amidst all the known upcoming waves of combiner figures, in this final chapter of the Prime Wars Trilogy toylines.

How come Blast Off is covered and has 4 languages and the others don't.

Since Blast Off mentions Bruticus, does this mean they'll reissue the Combaticons?

Blast Off definitely looks completely different from the other POTP packaging, which leads me to believe that it's fake

I ended up getting blast off online months ago but this weekend but this weekend while looking at him I thought power of the Primes would be a line they could release him. Maybe a slight toning of the chest to put the armor gimmick on and a new hand and he’d pass as a figure for it. Like I said while I do the takara one I don’t like his colors at all and if Hasbro releases him with the dark brown and purple I’ll get it.

Emerje wrote:

Knightsword wrote:The Matrix
The Enigma of Combination

Probably not. The first one only vaguely looks like a Matrix, I feel like Hasbro would have gone for something a little more on the nose and easily recognized as a Matrix. The second one I would think it was an Enigma it would have five points to represent the five members instead of six.

I'm probably wrong, but I'm going with the top being Primus and the bottom being Unicron. The first one reminds me of the circular formations on the surface of Cybertron while the second reminds me of Unicron's planet jaws as seen in G1 (not the clamping jaws from the Unicron Trilogy).

Emerje

The CW Combiners were all 6 members. Plus that is the symbol that is actually on the enigmas that come with the PotP Voyagers.

xMXUx wrote:Blast Off definitely looks completely different from the other POTP packaging, which leads me to believe that it's fake

Yeah, there's no cross-sell or even a POTP logo on his.