Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents

Transformers News: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents

Wednesday, October 18th, 2017 12:41PM CDT

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I see a lot of questions on the boards and with the recent shows and images surfacing online, I thought having everything in one place could help, at least as a reference.

Firstly, this line is basically Combiner Wars 2.0 with Prime Master Integration, and the Prime Masters use the very same ports as the Titan Masters from Titans Return.

Here are the 5 different classes and their suggested prices (which has increased from Titans Return for a few classes). Please remember that these are Hasbro's suggested prices to retailers based on the average retailer's cost and subsequent markup. They can be higher or lower depending on the retailer.

Prime Master: Approx. Retail Price: $5.99

There will be 12 in total coming out in the line (as far as we have been told) and each one will be a small robot which turns into a symbol representing on of the Primes. Everyone of these small robots have the same size and playability as Titan Masters. They each come in a with a small suit that homages a G1 pretender and which can turn into a weapon. The Prime Masters can also plug into the combiner hands and feet when they are used as armour, and they can also plug into the Matrix found in each leader class figure.

Transformers News: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents

Legends Class: Approx. Retail Price: $9.99

These are very similar to the legends class we got in Titans Return where most have a port to attach a Titan/Prime Master. There is no indication that these will turn into weapons, like some did in Combiner Wars. Their interaction in this line's ecosystem is with the Prime Masters.

Transformers News: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents

Deluxe Class Approx. Retail Price: $19.99

Every Deluxe class toy in this line can turn into an arm or a leg to combine with a voyager torso. Each Deluxe comes with a combiner hand which can plug into its body as some sort of shield or power up.

Transformers News: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents

Voyager Class Approx. Retail Price: $29.99

Every Voyager in this line can turn into a combiner torso to combine with the deluxe arms and legs. They each come with two combiner feet which plug onto their forearms as power gauntlets, as well as an engima of combination.

Transformers News: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents

Leader Class Evolution Approx. Retail Price: $49.99

To our current knowledge, every Leader Class in this line has an evolution gimmick (hence the word's inclusion in the size class name) where a smaller robot combines with parts of his alt mode and turns into a larger robot. Each of these so far are based on actual evolutions that have happened in Transformers fiction, turning a character into his evolved form. Each comes with a matrix which is Titan/Prime Master compatible.

Transformers News: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents

Titan Class Predaking (price yet to be revealed, though $150 price point is assumed)

This toy has yet to be fully revealed but from what we know it will be made of the 5 Predacons, and sport the traditional G1 colours. Each Predacon will all be around the voyager size, much like the previous Constructicons. His interaction in this line's ecosystem is that he can store both a matrix and the enigma of combination (and thus, any Titan/Prime Master)


Wave Breakdown and Time Frame

Hasbro goes by season for product releases, so I will translate that into an approximate time frame to give an idea of when the toys could be seen on shelves.

Wave 1: Between end of December 2017 and end of March 2018

Prime Master: Liege Maximo and Skullgrin Decoy Armor, Micronus and Cloudburst Decoy Armor, Vector Prime and Metalhawk Decoy Armor

Legends: Beachcomber, Dinobot Slash, Skrapnel, Windcharger

Deluxe: Autobot Jazz, Dinobot Slug, Dinobot Swoop, Dreadwind

Voyager: Grimlock, Starscream

Leader: Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime


Wave 2: Between end of March 2018 and end of June 2018

Prime Master: Alchemist Prime and Submarauder Decoy Armor, Alpha Trion and Landmine Decoy Armor

Legends (all unconfirmed): Battleslash, Roadtrap, Tailgate

Deluxe: Blackwing, Dinobot Sludge, Dinobot Snarl, Moonracer, Terrorcon Rippersnapper

Voyager: Terrorcon Hun-Gurrr, Elita-1

Leader: Rodimus Unicronus, Optimus Prime


Wave 3: Between end June 2018 and end of September 2018

Prime Master (all unconfirmed): Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor

Legends (all unconfirmed): Cindersaur, Outback

Deluxe: Terrorcon Blot, Terrorcon Cutthroat, Sinnertwin, Autobot Jazz

Voyager: Inferno, Grimlock

Leader: Optimal Optimus, Rodimus Prime
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Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917337)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:01pm CDT
So with those assumed prices, and adjusting for the USD to CAD exchange rate, I'll need $847.79 for all the ones I want to buy over the course of the next year. Holy crap.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917339)
Posted by Randomhero on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CDT
Is it even worth putting price points in these? Last knight and TR were first announced 19.99 but I never spent more than 14.99 on a deluxe for either. Walmart still carries all deluxes for that price. Same with voyagers. 22.99-24.99 I never paid $30 for a single voyager. Even at target when people were showing a $30 price on TR voyagers my targets and I have 10 in my city and around it all sold them for 22-24.99
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917343)
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:24pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Is it even worth putting price points in these? Last knight and TR were first announced 19.99 but I never spent more than 14.99 on a deluxe for either. Walmart still carries all deluxes for that price. Same with voyagers. 22.99-24.99 I never paid $30 for a single voyager. Even at target when people were showing a $30 price on TR voyagers my targets and I have 10 in my city and around it all sold them for 22-24.99

I preffer showing the official info and people being happy that they end up paying less than showing a low price which people may not get if they go to, say, toysrus. Plus we have no clue if Walmart will keep the same prices and not everyone has Walmart (like the 10 million people living in manhattan). Many in the US are stuck ordering online and they charge exactly the prices listed above: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/55418

This still gives the best idea of the possible price for a line that has had 0 retail sightings so far.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So with those assumed prices, and adjusting for the USD to CAD exchange rate, I'll need $847.79 for all the ones I want to buy over the course of the next year. Holy crap.



Then you better hope TRU Canada and their monthly TF sales stick around. It could be 20%-40% less than that.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917344)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CDT
really hope walmart keeps their current pricing otherwise i wont be buying any of these, not only can i not justify paying those prices i just cant afford them.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917352)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:45pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Is it even worth putting price points in these? Last knight and TR were first announced 19.99 but I never spent more than 14.99 on a deluxe for either. Walmart still carries all deluxes for that price. Same with voyagers. 22.99-24.99 I never paid $30 for a single voyager. Even at target when people were showing a $30 price on TR voyagers my targets and I have 10 in my city and around it all sold them for 22-24.99


Not all Walmarts. I paid $30 for Nitro Zues, so some of them clearly go with what their market can bear.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917356)
Posted by o.supreme on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CDT
^Exactly, though the big chains are national, (international even...) prices are largely regional. Also there are so many discounts, sales, coupons, promos etc...if one is patient, you can usually get them for less than MSRP, but listing them at Hasbro's suggested US MSRP (others in different countries know what there MSRP usually is) is what makes the most sense.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917358)
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:52pm CDT
An excellent summary. Thanks.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917360)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:54pm CDT
Thanks for the rundown, WJ-88. It's a nice summary of things to come with Power of the Primes. Now, we play the waiting game. At least there's going to be plenty of Takara Legends and Masterpiece releases over the next few months to fill the gap.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917361)
Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:56pm CDT
Man, Windcharger is still a pain to look at. He'd be a perfectly fine figure - if a bit basic, but still pretty cool - if it weren't for that awful head. I'm actually looking forward to the toy-accurate Tailgate because of how bad Windcharger's headsculpt is and how good the rest of the toy looks!
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917364)
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:04pm CDT
Who are Battleslash and Roadtrap? The Duocons?

And still no Hubcap on the horizon.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917366)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:11pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:Who are Battleslash and Roadtrap? The Duocons?


It is assumed that they basically split Battletrap in two and gave each alt mode their own robot that possibly combine together into Battletrap.

All we have to go on is the slides from the leak that shall not be posted here because Hasbro is our friend. And those slides were poor quality placeholders, so all we really have to go on are the names.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917368)
Posted by Rysquad on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:12pm CDT
I'm more excited about the Prime Masters and Legion Class figures simply because of the Prime Master riding the Alt Mode play pattern. (or basically, the Titan Master gimmick was more fun than the Combiner Wars gimmick for me and my son).
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917369)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:14pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Man, Windcharger is still a pain to look at. He'd be a perfectly fine figure - if a bit basic, but still pretty cool - if it weren't for that awful head. I'm actually looking forward to the toy-accurate Tailgate because of how bad Windcharger's headsculpt is and how good the rest of the toy looks!


For me, it is the face and not the head itself. The overall shape of the head matches the original cartoon pretty well. But that face, I don't even think a mother could love that.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917374)
Posted by o.supreme on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Just a slight addendum WJ... ;)

Wave 4: Between end September 2018 and end of December 2018

Deluxe: Novastar (unconfirmed), Blackwing, Dinobot Slug, & Rippersnapper



I know its hardly complete but it was on one slide and has one new bot (unconfirmed) that was not in the other waves.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917377)
Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:26pm CDT
Guys, you're allowed to talk about -that- leak. It's just staff who aren't.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917381)
Posted by Rysquad on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:34pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Wave Breakdown and Time Frame

Hasbro goes by season for product releases, so I will translate that into an approximate time frame to give an idea of when the toys could be seen on shelves.

Wave 1: Between end of December 2017 and end of March 2018

Prime Master: Liege Maximo and Skullgrin Decoy Armor, Micronus and Cloudburst Decoy Armor, Vector Prime and Metalhawk Decoy Armor

Legends: Beachcomber, Dinobot Slash, Skrapnel, Windcharger

Deluxe: Autobot Jazz, Dinobot Slug, Dinobot Swoop, Dreadwind

Voyager: Grimlock, Starscream

Leader: Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime


Wave 2: Between end of March 2018 and end of June 2018

Prime Master: Alchemist Prime and Submarauder Decoy Armor, Alpha Trion and Landmine Decoy Armor

Legends (all unconfirmed): Battleslash, Roadtrap, Tailgate

Deluxe: Blackwing, Dinobot Sludge, Dinobot Snarl, Moonracer, Terrorcon Rippersnapper

Voyager: Terrorcon Hun-Gurrr, Elita-1

Leader: Rodimus Unicronus, Optimus Prime


Wave 3: Between end June 2018 and end of September 2018

Prime Master (all unconfirmed): Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor

Legends (all unconfirmed): Cindersaur, Outback

Deluxe: Terrorcon Blot, Terrorcon Cutthroat, Sinnertwin, Autobot Jazz

Voyager: Inferno, Grimlock

Leader: Optimal Optimus, Rodimus Prime


For Combiner Wars, Hasbro had May Mayhem and Boxed Sets in addition to the general line. For Titans Return, Walgreen's had Brainstorm as an exclusive but the case number points to it maybe being part of the general retail assortment. They've also got the Clone set coming. Plus the Chaos and Siege sets at TRU And BBTS. Is it too early to speculate on what individual and boxed exclusives could be for Power of the Primes?
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917383)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Man, Windcharger is still a pain to look at. He'd be a perfectly fine figure - if a bit basic, but still pretty cool - if it weren't for that awful head. I'm actually looking forward to the toy-accurate Tailgate because of how bad Windcharger's headsculpt is and how good the rest of the toy looks!


For me, it is the face and not the head itself. The overall shape of the head matches the original cartoon pretty well. But that face, I don't even think a mother could love that.


He looks like he's trying to hide something in his mouth, like he got caught in the process of eating an energon cookie and now he trying to plead his case without opening his mouth and incriminating himself to his mom. :lol:
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917384)
Posted by Munkky on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
Out of the first three waves, I plan to buy Jazz, Elita-1, Optimus Primal, all of the Dinobots and all of the Prime Masters. Dreadwind, [strike]Dark[/strike]Blackwing [strike]Duck[/strike], Optimus Prime and Moonracer are on the maybe pile, and I can live without the rest.
It would be a shame if Novastar really is the only new thing in Wave 4. I do hope having only one new toy in the last wave of the year doesn't become a regular thing going forward.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917391)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:45pm CDT
Not yet seen a single figure I want to actually buy. Had high hopes for the Dinobots but nope. Entire line using gimmicks I don't want and some I hoped I'd seen the last of. Perhaps the Predacons when I've seen more of them.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917392)
Posted by Un_Chakal on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:54pm CDT
-----Wave 4 ?/?/18--------
...Prime Masters:
???????????????????????????
...Legends:
??????????????????????????
...Deluxe:
Novastar (Firestar)
Blackwing (Darkwing)
Dinobot Slug
Rippersnapper
...Voyager:
????????????????????????????

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Groundbreaker
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Splashdown
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Bugly
Finback
Iguanus
Stranglehold

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