Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents
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I see a lot of questions on the boards and with the recent shows and images surfacing online, I thought having everything in one place could help, at least as a reference.
Firstly, this line is basically Combiner Wars 2.0 with Prime Master Integration, and the Prime Masters use the very same ports as the Titan Masters from Titans Return.
Here are the 5 different classes and their suggested prices (which has increased from Titans Return for a few classes). Please remember that these are Hasbro's suggested prices to retailers based on the average retailer's cost and subsequent markup. They can be higher or lower depending on the retailer.
Prime Master: Approx. Retail Price: $5.99
There will be 12 in total comping out in the line (as far as we have been told) and each one will be a small robot which turns into a symbol representing on of the Primes. Everyone of these small robots have the same size and playability as Titan Masters. They each come in a with a small suit that homages a G1 pretender and which can turn into a weapon. The Prime Masters can also plug into the combiner hands and feet when they are used as armour, and they can also plug into the Matrix found in each leader class figure.
Legends Class: Approx. Retail Price: $9.99
These are very similar to the legends class we got in Titans Return where most have a port to attach a Titan/Prime Master. There is no indication that these will turn into weapons, like some did in Combiner Wars. Their interaction in this line's ecosystem is with the Prime Masters.
Deluxe Class Approx. Retail Price: $19.99
Every Deluxe class toy in this line can turn into an arm or a leg to combine with a voyager torso. Each Deluxe comes with a combiner hand which can plug into its body as some sort of shield or power up.
Voyager Class Approx. Retail Price: $29.99
Every Voyager in this line can turn into a combiner torso to combine with the deluxe arms and legs. They each come with two combiner feet which plug onto their forearms as power gauntlets, as well as an engima of combination.
Leader Class Evolution Approx. Retail Price: $49.99
To our current knowledge, every Leader Class in this line has an evolution gimmick (hence the word's inclusion in the size class name) where a smaller robot combines with parts of his alt mode and turns into a larger robot. Each of these so far are based on actual evolutions that have happened in Transformers fiction, turning a character into his evolved form. Each comes with a matrix which is Titan/Prime Master compatible.
Titan Class Predaking (price yet to be revealed, though $150 price point is assumed)
This toy has yet to be fully revealed but from what we know it will be made of the 5 Predacons, and sport the traditional G1 colours. Each Predacon will all be around the voyager size, much like the previous Constructicons. His interaction in this line's ecosystem is that he can store both a matrix and the enigma of combination (and thus, any Titan/Prime Master)
Wave Breakdown and Time Frame
Hasbro goes by season for product releases, so I will translate that into an approximate time frame to give an idea of when the toys could be seen on shelves.
Wave 1: Between December 2017 and March 2018
Prime Master: Liege Maximo and Skullgrin Decoy Armor, Micronus and Cloudburst Decoy Armor, Vector Prime and Metalhawk Decoy Armor
Legends: Beachcomber, Dinobot Slash, Skrapnel, Windcharger
Deluxe: Autobot Jazz, Dinobot Slug, Dinobot Swoop, Dreadwind
Voyager: Grimlock, Starscream
Leader: Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime
Wave 2: Between March and June 2018
Prime Master: Alchemist Prime and Submarauder Decoy Armor, Alpha Trion and Landmine Decoy Armor
Legends: Battleslash, Roadtrap, Tailgate
Deluxe: Blackwing, Dinobot Sludge, Dinobot Snarl, Moonracer, Terrorcon Rippersnapper
Voyager: Terrorcon Hun-Gurrr, Elita-1
Leader: Rodimus Unicronus, Optimus Prime
Wave 3: Between June and September 2018
Prime Master: Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor
Legends: Cindersaur, Outback
Deluxe: Terrorcon Blot, Terrorcon Cutthroat, Sinnertwin, Autobot Jazz
Voyager: Inferno, Grimlock
Leader: Optimal Optimus, Rodimus Prime
Wave 4: Between September and December 2018
Deluxe: Firestar
Firstly, this line is basically Combiner Wars 2.0 with Prime Master Integration, and the Prime Masters use the very same ports as the Titan Masters from Titans Return.
Here are the 5 different classes and their suggested prices (which has increased from Titans Return for a few classes). Please remember that these are Hasbro's suggested prices to retailers based on the average retailer's cost and subsequent markup. They can be higher or lower depending on the retailer.
Prime Master: Approx. Retail Price: $5.99
There will be 12 in total comping out in the line (as far as we have been told) and each one will be a small robot which turns into a symbol representing on of the Primes. Everyone of these small robots have the same size and playability as Titan Masters. They each come in a with a small suit that homages a G1 pretender and which can turn into a weapon. The Prime Masters can also plug into the combiner hands and feet when they are used as armour, and they can also plug into the Matrix found in each leader class figure.
Legends Class: Approx. Retail Price: $9.99
These are very similar to the legends class we got in Titans Return where most have a port to attach a Titan/Prime Master. There is no indication that these will turn into weapons, like some did in Combiner Wars. Their interaction in this line's ecosystem is with the Prime Masters.
Deluxe Class Approx. Retail Price: $19.99
Every Deluxe class toy in this line can turn into an arm or a leg to combine with a voyager torso. Each Deluxe comes with a combiner hand which can plug into its body as some sort of shield or power up.
Voyager Class Approx. Retail Price: $29.99
Every Voyager in this line can turn into a combiner torso to combine with the deluxe arms and legs. They each come with two combiner feet which plug onto their forearms as power gauntlets, as well as an engima of combination.
Leader Class Evolution Approx. Retail Price: $49.99
To our current knowledge, every Leader Class in this line has an evolution gimmick (hence the word's inclusion in the size class name) where a smaller robot combines with parts of his alt mode and turns into a larger robot. Each of these so far are based on actual evolutions that have happened in Transformers fiction, turning a character into his evolved form. Each comes with a matrix which is Titan/Prime Master compatible.
Titan Class Predaking (price yet to be revealed, though $150 price point is assumed)
This toy has yet to be fully revealed but from what we know it will be made of the 5 Predacons, and sport the traditional G1 colours. Each Predacon will all be around the voyager size, much like the previous Constructicons. His interaction in this line's ecosystem is that he can store both a matrix and the enigma of combination (and thus, any Titan/Prime Master)
Wave Breakdown and Time Frame
Hasbro goes by season for product releases, so I will translate that into an approximate time frame to give an idea of when the toys could be seen on shelves.
Wave 1: Between December 2017 and March 2018
Prime Master: Liege Maximo and Skullgrin Decoy Armor, Micronus and Cloudburst Decoy Armor, Vector Prime and Metalhawk Decoy Armor
Legends: Beachcomber, Dinobot Slash, Skrapnel, Windcharger
Deluxe: Autobot Jazz, Dinobot Slug, Dinobot Swoop, Dreadwind
Voyager: Grimlock, Starscream
Leader: Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime
Wave 2: Between March and June 2018
Prime Master: Alchemist Prime and Submarauder Decoy Armor, Alpha Trion and Landmine Decoy Armor
Legends: Battleslash, Roadtrap, Tailgate
Deluxe: Blackwing, Dinobot Sludge, Dinobot Snarl, Moonracer, Terrorcon Rippersnapper
Voyager: Terrorcon Hun-Gurrr, Elita-1
Leader: Rodimus Unicronus, Optimus Prime
Wave 3: Between June and September 2018
Prime Master: Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor
Legends: Cindersaur, Outback
Deluxe: Terrorcon Blot, Terrorcon Cutthroat, Sinnertwin, Autobot Jazz
Voyager: Inferno, Grimlock
Leader: Optimal Optimus, Rodimus Prime
Wave 4: Between September and December 2018
Deluxe: Firestar
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Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917337)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:01pm CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:01pm CDT
So with those assumed prices, and adjusting for the USD to CAD exchange rate, I'll need $847.79 for all the ones I want to buy over the course of the next year. Holy crap.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917339)
Posted by Randomhero on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CDT
Is it even worth putting price points in these? Last knight and TR were first announced 19.99 but I never spent more than 14.99 on a deluxe for either. Walmart still carries all deluxes for that price. Same with voyagers. 22.99-24.99 I never paid $30 for a single voyager. Even at target when people were showing a $30 price on TR voyagers my targets and I have 10 in my city and around it all sold them for 22-24.99
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917343)
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:24pm CDT
I preffer showing the official info and people being happy that they end up paying less than showing a low price which people may not get if they go to, say, toysrus. Plus we have no clue if Walmart will keep the same prices and not everyone has Walmart (like the 10 million people living in manhattan). Many in the US are stuck ordering online and they charge exactly the prices listed above: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/55418
This still gives the best idea of the possible price for a line that has had 0 retail sightings so far.
Then you better hope TRU Canada and their monthly TF sales stick around. It could be 20%-40% less than that.
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:24pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Is it even worth putting price points in these? Last knight and TR were first announced 19.99 but I never spent more than 14.99 on a deluxe for either. Walmart still carries all deluxes for that price. Same with voyagers. 22.99-24.99 I never paid $30 for a single voyager. Even at target when people were showing a $30 price on TR voyagers my targets and I have 10 in my city and around it all sold them for 22-24.99
I preffer showing the official info and people being happy that they end up paying less than showing a low price which people may not get if they go to, say, toysrus. Plus we have no clue if Walmart will keep the same prices and not everyone has Walmart (like the 10 million people living in manhattan). Many in the US are stuck ordering online and they charge exactly the prices listed above: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/55418
This still gives the best idea of the possible price for a line that has had 0 retail sightings so far.
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So with those assumed prices, and adjusting for the USD to CAD exchange rate, I'll need $847.79 for all the ones I want to buy over the course of the next year. Holy crap.
Then you better hope TRU Canada and their monthly TF sales stick around. It could be 20%-40% less than that.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917344)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CDT
really hope walmart keeps their current pricing otherwise i wont be buying any of these, not only can i not justify paying those prices i just cant afford them.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917352)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:45pm CDT
Not all Walmarts. I paid $30 for Nitro Zues, so some of them clearly go with what their market can bear.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:45pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Is it even worth putting price points in these? Last knight and TR were first announced 19.99 but I never spent more than 14.99 on a deluxe for either. Walmart still carries all deluxes for that price. Same with voyagers. 22.99-24.99 I never paid $30 for a single voyager. Even at target when people were showing a $30 price on TR voyagers my targets and I have 10 in my city and around it all sold them for 22-24.99
Not all Walmarts. I paid $30 for Nitro Zues, so some of them clearly go with what their market can bear.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917356)
Posted by o.supreme on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CDT
^Exactly, though the big chains are national, (international even...) prices are largely regional. Also there are so many discounts, sales, coupons, promos etc...if one is patient, you can usually get them for less than MSRP, but listing them at Hasbro's suggested US MSRP (others in different countries know what there MSRP usually is) is what makes the most sense.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917358)
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:52pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:52pm CDT
An excellent summary. Thanks.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917360)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:54pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:54pm CDT
Thanks for the rundown, WJ-88. It's a nice summary of things to come with Power of the Primes. Now, we play the waiting game. At least there's going to be plenty of Takara Legends and Masterpiece releases over the next few months to fill the gap.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917361)
Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:56pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 1:56pm CDT
Man, Windcharger is still a pain to look at. He'd be a perfectly fine figure - if a bit basic, but still pretty cool - if it weren't for that awful head. I'm actually looking forward to the toy-accurate Tailgate because of how bad Windcharger's headsculpt is and how good the rest of the toy looks!
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917364)
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:04pm CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:04pm CDT
Who are Battleslash and Roadtrap? The Duocons?
And still no Hubcap on the horizon.
And still no Hubcap on the horizon.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917366)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:11pm CDT
It is assumed that they basically split Battletrap in two and gave each alt mode their own robot that possibly combine together into Battletrap.
All we have to go on is the slides from the leak that shall not be posted here because Hasbro is our friend. And those slides were poor quality placeholders, so all we really have to go on are the names.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:11pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:Who are Battleslash and Roadtrap? The Duocons?
It is assumed that they basically split Battletrap in two and gave each alt mode their own robot that possibly combine together into Battletrap.
All we have to go on is the slides from the leak that shall not be posted here because Hasbro is our friend. And those slides were poor quality placeholders, so all we really have to go on are the names.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917368)
Posted by Rysquad on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:12pm CDT
Posted by Rysquad on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:12pm CDT
I'm more excited about the Prime Masters and Legion Class figures simply because of the Prime Master riding the Alt Mode play pattern. (or basically, the Titan Master gimmick was more fun than the Combiner Wars gimmick for me and my son).
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917369)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:14pm CDT
For me, it is the face and not the head itself. The overall shape of the head matches the original cartoon pretty well. But that face, I don't even think a mother could love that.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:14pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Man, Windcharger is still a pain to look at. He'd be a perfectly fine figure - if a bit basic, but still pretty cool - if it weren't for that awful head. I'm actually looking forward to the toy-accurate Tailgate because of how bad Windcharger's headsculpt is and how good the rest of the toy looks!
For me, it is the face and not the head itself. The overall shape of the head matches the original cartoon pretty well. But that face, I don't even think a mother could love that.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917374)
Posted by o.supreme on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Just a slight addendum WJ... 
Wave 4: Between end September 2018 and end of December 2018
Deluxe: Novastar (unconfirmed), Blackwing, Dinobot Slug, & Rippersnapper
I know its hardly complete but it was on one slide and has one new bot (unconfirmed) that was not in the other waves.
Wave 4: Between end September 2018 and end of December 2018
Deluxe: Novastar (unconfirmed), Blackwing, Dinobot Slug, & Rippersnapper
I know its hardly complete but it was on one slide and has one new bot (unconfirmed) that was not in the other waves.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917377)
Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:26pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:26pm CDT
Guys, you're allowed to talk about -that- leak. It's just staff who aren't.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917381)
Posted by Rysquad on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:34pm CDT
For Combiner Wars, Hasbro had May Mayhem and Boxed Sets in addition to the general line. For Titans Return, Walgreen's had Brainstorm as an exclusive but the case number points to it maybe being part of the general retail assortment. They've also got the Clone set coming. Plus the Chaos and Siege sets at TRU And BBTS. Is it too early to speculate on what individual and boxed exclusives could be for Power of the Primes?
Posted by Rysquad on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:34pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Wave Breakdown and Time Frame
Hasbro goes by season for product releases, so I will translate that into an approximate time frame to give an idea of when the toys could be seen on shelves.
Wave 1: Between end of December 2017 and end of March 2018
Prime Master: Liege Maximo and Skullgrin Decoy Armor, Micronus and Cloudburst Decoy Armor, Vector Prime and Metalhawk Decoy Armor
Legends: Beachcomber, Dinobot Slash, Skrapnel, Windcharger
Deluxe: Autobot Jazz, Dinobot Slug, Dinobot Swoop, Dreadwind
Voyager: Grimlock, Starscream
Leader: Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime
Wave 2: Between end of March 2018 and end of June 2018
Prime Master: Alchemist Prime and Submarauder Decoy Armor, Alpha Trion and Landmine Decoy Armor
Legends (all unconfirmed): Battleslash, Roadtrap, Tailgate
Deluxe: Blackwing, Dinobot Sludge, Dinobot Snarl, Moonracer, Terrorcon Rippersnapper
Voyager: Terrorcon Hun-Gurrr, Elita-1
Leader: Rodimus Unicronus, Optimus Prime
Wave 3: Between end June 2018 and end of September 2018
Prime Master (all unconfirmed): Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor
Legends (all unconfirmed): Cindersaur, Outback
Deluxe: Terrorcon Blot, Terrorcon Cutthroat, Sinnertwin, Autobot Jazz
Voyager: Inferno, Grimlock
Leader: Optimal Optimus, Rodimus Prime
For Combiner Wars, Hasbro had May Mayhem and Boxed Sets in addition to the general line. For Titans Return, Walgreen's had Brainstorm as an exclusive but the case number points to it maybe being part of the general retail assortment. They've also got the Clone set coming. Plus the Chaos and Siege sets at TRU And BBTS. Is it too early to speculate on what individual and boxed exclusives could be for Power of the Primes?
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917383)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
He looks like he's trying to hide something in his mouth, like he got caught in the process of eating an energon cookie and now he trying to plead his case without opening his mouth and incriminating himself to his mom.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Kurona wrote:Man, Windcharger is still a pain to look at. He'd be a perfectly fine figure - if a bit basic, but still pretty cool - if it weren't for that awful head. I'm actually looking forward to the toy-accurate Tailgate because of how bad Windcharger's headsculpt is and how good the rest of the toy looks!
For me, it is the face and not the head itself. The overall shape of the head matches the original cartoon pretty well. But that face, I don't even think a mother could love that.
He looks like he's trying to hide something in his mouth, like he got caught in the process of eating an energon cookie and now he trying to plead his case without opening his mouth and incriminating himself to his mom.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917384)
Posted by Munkky on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by Munkky on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
Out of the first three waves, I plan to buy Jazz, Elita-1, Optimus Primal, all of the Dinobots and all of the Prime Masters. Dreadwind, DarkBlackwing Duck, Optimus Prime and Moonracer are on the maybe pile, and I can live without the rest.
It would be a shame if Novastar really is the only new thing in Wave 4. I do hope having only one new toy in the last wave of the year doesn't become a regular thing going forward.
It would be a shame if Novastar really is the only new thing in Wave 4. I do hope having only one new toy in the last wave of the year doesn't become a regular thing going forward.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917391)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:45pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:45pm CDT
Not yet seen a single figure I want to actually buy. Had high hopes for the Dinobots but nope. Entire line using gimmicks I don't want and some I hoped I'd seen the last of. Perhaps the Predacons when I've seen more of them.
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917392)
Posted by Un_Chakal on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:54pm CDT
Posted by Un_Chakal on October 18th, 2017 @ 2:54pm CDT
-----Wave 4 ?/?/18--------
...Prime Masters:
???????????????????????????
...Legends:
??????????????????????????
...Deluxe:
Novastar (Firestar)
Blackwing (Darkwing)
Dinobot Slug
Rippersnapper
...Voyager:
????????????????????????????
Titan Class Predaking "Fall"
Other Possible Prime Masters:
-Autobots
Groundbreaker
Sky High
Splashdown
-Decepticons
Bugly
Finback
Iguanus
Stranglehold
...Prime Masters:
???????????????????????????
...Legends:
??????????????????????????
...Deluxe:
Novastar (Firestar)
Blackwing (Darkwing)
Dinobot Slug
Rippersnapper
...Voyager:
????????????????????????????
Titan Class Predaking "Fall"
Other Possible Prime Masters:
-Autobots
Groundbreaker
Sky High
Splashdown
-Decepticons
Bugly
Finback
Iguanus
Stranglehold
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917396)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2017 @ 3:27pm CDT
What's wrong with the Dinobots in this new line? They look fantastic and very G1 faithful. Their "gimmicks" aren't obtrusive. In fact, combiner pegs and ports are hidden even better now than they were in the Combiner Wars line. If you don't want to combine your Dinobots, then don't! If you want to ignore the combiner hands/chest armor that come with the deluxes, do so! You can just put the combiner feet that come with Grimlock into a box too. Display your toys how you want to. Getting proper "Classics" updates of the original Dinobot team has been a LONG time coming, and if you pass on these, it'll probably be many, many years before you get another shot at this, if ever again, honestly.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 18th, 2017 @ 3:27pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Not yet seen a single figure I want to actually buy. Had high hopes for the Dinobots but nope. Entire line using gimmicks I don't want and some I hoped I'd seen the last of. Perhaps the Predacons when I've seen more of them.
What's wrong with the Dinobots in this new line? They look fantastic and very G1 faithful. Their "gimmicks" aren't obtrusive. In fact, combiner pegs and ports are hidden even better now than they were in the Combiner Wars line. If you don't want to combine your Dinobots, then don't! If you want to ignore the combiner hands/chest armor that come with the deluxes, do so! You can just put the combiner feet that come with Grimlock into a box too. Display your toys how you want to. Getting proper "Classics" updates of the original Dinobot team has been a LONG time coming, and if you pass on these, it'll probably be many, many years before you get another shot at this, if ever again, honestly.
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Posted by steals_your_goats on October 18th, 2017 @ 3:31pm CDT
He hates pretty much everything other than movie stuff so being G1 faithful is the issue
Posted by steals_your_goats on October 18th, 2017 @ 3:31pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Not yet seen a single figure I want to actually buy. Had high hopes for the Dinobots but nope. Entire line using gimmicks I don't want and some I hoped I'd seen the last of. Perhaps the Predacons when I've seen more of them.
What's wrong with the Dinobots in this new line? They look fantastic and very G1 faithful. Their "gimmicks" aren't obtrusive. In fact, combiner pegs and ports are hidden even better now than they were in the Combiner Wars line. If you don't want to combine your Dinobots, then don't! If you want to ignore the combiner hands/chest armor that come with the deluxes, do so! You can just put the combiner feet that come with Grimlock into a box too. Display your toys how you want to. Getting proper "Classics" updates of the original Dinobot team has been a LONG time coming, and if you pass on these, it'll probably be many, many years before you get another shot at this, if ever again, honestly.
He hates pretty much everything other than movie stuff so being G1 faithful is the issue
Re: Rundown on Everything There is to Know about Power of the Primes: When, How Much and Wave Contents (1917402)
Posted by RodimusRex on October 18th, 2017 @ 4:02pm CDT
We have the rumored Wreck-Gar at Walgreens. Probably Groove with modest retooling and the new hand style. Honestly, Groove isn't far off from the G1 animation model. A new head and maybe a hint of guns in the breastplate.
I suspect if we're seeing SDCC and/or Botcon, they'll be shared TRU exclusives. And if there's a set, probably a repurposed RiD or TR mold to fill it out. Probably character overlap with retail.
New RiD Bludgeon might make a good candidate.
Gotta say one of my dream figures is Devcon from TR Scourge with a Blurr head. I like in general the trend with Elita-One, TM Arcee, Straxus, Jhiaxus, etc. of Hasbro releasing G1 characters who never had a mass release toy. For that matter, maybe a Lifeline/Paradron from TR Arcee's tooling. In general, some of the bigger unfinished business IMHO are those characters who never had a toy, excluding Botcon/TFCC.
Posted by RodimusRex on October 18th, 2017 @ 4:02pm CDT
Rysquad wrote:william-james88 wrote:Wave Breakdown and Time Frame
Hasbro goes by season for product releases, so I will translate that into an approximate time frame to give an idea of when the toys could be seen on shelves.
Wave 1: Between end of December 2017 and end of March 2018
Prime Master: Liege Maximo and Skullgrin Decoy Armor, Micronus and Cloudburst Decoy Armor, Vector Prime and Metalhawk Decoy Armor
Legends: Beachcomber, Dinobot Slash, Skrapnel, Windcharger
Deluxe: Autobot Jazz, Dinobot Slug, Dinobot Swoop, Dreadwind
Voyager: Grimlock, Starscream
Leader: Rodimus Prime, Optimus Prime
Wave 2: Between end of March 2018 and end of June 2018.
Prime Master: Alchemist Prime and Submarauder Decoy Armor, Alpha Trion and Landmine Decoy Armor
Legends (all unconfirmed): Battleslash, Roadtrap, Tailgate
Deluxe: Blackwing, Dinobot Sludge, Dinobot Snarl, Moonracer, Terrorcon Rippersnapper
Voyager: Terrorcon Hun-Gurrr, Elita-1
Leader: Rodimus Unicronus, Optimus Prime
Wave 3: Between end June 2018 and end of September 2018
Prime Master (all unconfirmed): Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor
Legends (all unconfirmed): Cindersaur, Outback
Deluxe: Terrorcon Blot, Terrorcon Cutthroat, Sinnertwin, Autobot Jazz
Voyager: Inferno, Grimlock
Leader: Optimal Optimus, Rodimus Prime
For Combiner Wars, Hasbro had May Mayhem and Boxed Sets in addition to the general line. For Titans Return, Walgreen's had Brainstorm as an exclusive but the case number points to it maybe being part of the general retail assortment. They've also got the Clone set coming. Plus the Chaos and Siege sets at TRU And BBTS. Is it too early to speculate on what individual and boxed exclusives could be for Power of the Primes?
We have the rumored Wreck-Gar at Walgreens. Probably Groove with modest retooling and the new hand style. Honestly, Groove isn't far off from the G1 animation model. A new head and maybe a hint of guns in the breastplate.
I suspect if we're seeing SDCC and/or Botcon, they'll be shared TRU exclusives. And if there's a set, probably a repurposed RiD or TR mold to fill it out. Probably character overlap with retail.
New RiD Bludgeon might make a good candidate.
Gotta say one of my dream figures is Devcon from TR Scourge with a Blurr head. I like in general the trend with Elita-One, TM Arcee, Straxus, Jhiaxus, etc. of Hasbro releasing G1 characters who never had a mass release toy. For that matter, maybe a Lifeline/Paradron from TR Arcee's tooling. In general, some of the bigger unfinished business IMHO are those characters who never had a toy, excluding Botcon/TFCC.
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Posted by BombshellDaBug on October 18th, 2017 @ 4:59pm CDT
If we got a new Bugly out of this line, I would be totally hyped for that.
Posted by BombshellDaBug on October 18th, 2017 @ 4:59pm CDT
Un_Chakal wrote:-----Wave 4 ?/?/18--------
...Prime Masters:
???????????????????????????
...Legends:
??????????????????????????
...Deluxe:
Novastar (Firestar)
Blackwing (Darkwing)
Dinobot Slug
Rippersnapper
...Voyager:
????????????????????????????
Titan Class Predaking "Fall"
Other Possible Prime Masters:
-Autobots
Groundbreaker
Sky High
Splashdown
-Decepticons
Bugly
Finback
Iguanus
Stranglehold
If we got a new Bugly out of this line, I would be totally hyped for that.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 18th, 2017 @ 6:20pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 18th, 2017 @ 6:20pm CDT
Oy, the beginning of 2018 is going to be tough with POTP and the new Legends figures coming
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Posted by ExciKaiser on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:04pm CDT
And how is it a good point ?
Here's what combiner limbs were looking like in the cartoon :
I hope we can agree it's not how we want our combiners.
Cheap cartoon from underpaid animators accuracy is not a good point/arguments for me, it's more than the contrary.
Posted by ExciKaiser on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:04pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote: The overall shape of the head matches the original cartoon pretty well.
And how is it a good point ?
Here's what combiner limbs were looking like in the cartoon :
I hope we can agree it's not how we want our combiners.
Cheap cartoon from underpaid animators accuracy is not a good point/arguments for me, it's more than the contrary.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:32pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:32pm CDT
Since the Dreadwing figures are coming with double ports, does that mean we might get 6 bot combiners like Leo Kaiser and Monstructor?
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:44pm CDT
I'm pretty sure Jelze figure out that it isn't a double port, but something like an extra 5mm post that one of them has and the other clips onto.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:44pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Since the Dreadwing figures are coming with double ports, does that mean we might get 6 bot combiners like Leo Kaiser and Monstructor?
I'm pretty sure Jelze figure out that it isn't a double port, but something like an extra 5mm post that one of them has and the other clips onto.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:49pm CDT
Exactly. The square Combiner peg is not used for the Dreadwing combo, besides, the Deluxes aren't big enough to accommodate at least two of them.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:49pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Since the Dreadwing figures are coming with double ports, does that mean we might get 6 bot combiners like Leo Kaiser and Monstructor?
I'm pretty sure Jelze figure out that it isn't a double port, but something like an extra 5mm post that one of them has and the other clips onto.
Exactly. The square Combiner peg is not used for the Dreadwing combo, besides, the Deluxes aren't big enough to accommodate at least two of them.
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Posted by Qwan on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:56pm CDT
Of course most importantly, that method of connection - while stopping other figures from connecting similarly, like we'd initially thought and hoped they could - will not prevent the possibility of making a gigantic two-robot mess of an arm from the Dreadwing guys.
So I mean, we could theoretically get 6-bot combiners using the combination devised here, but just... not even close to the way you'd want
Posted by Qwan on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:56pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Since the Dreadwing figures are coming with double ports, does that mean we might get 6 bot combiners like Leo Kaiser and Monstructor?
I'm pretty sure Jelze figure out that it isn't a double port, but something like an extra 5mm post that one of them has and the other clips onto.
Exactly. The square Combiner peg is not used for the Dreadwing combo, besides, the Deluxes aren't big enough to accommodate at least two of them.
Of course most importantly, that method of connection - while stopping other figures from connecting similarly, like we'd initially thought and hoped they could - will not prevent the possibility of making a gigantic two-robot mess of an arm from the Dreadwing guys.
So I mean, we could theoretically get 6-bot combiners using the combination devised here, but just... not even close to the way you'd want
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Posted by kurthy on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:58pm CDT
I give this line 2 rodimus stars.
Posted by kurthy on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:58pm CDT
I give this line 2 rodimus stars.
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Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:02pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:02pm CDT
My problem with Windcharger's head isn't that it matches how he looked in the cartoon, actually. It's that it doesn't match how he looked in the cartoon.
It's not a head jutting out from a slab; it's a face-in-a-box deal, sort of like Motormaster. It's not an amazing head design, but it's perfectly fine and looks pretty good and fits the overall aesthetic of both him and his cohorts. Both his CHUG toys so far have captured the face-in-box thing pretty well too (though in my opinion, CW pulls it off much better than RTS).
And when you bring up the cartoon screenshot (like I did up there) alongside these previous efforts and then alongside the new one... it really starts to show that the headsculpt isn't just bad, it does not capture his likeness in the cartoon at all.
It's not a head jutting out from a slab; it's a face-in-a-box deal, sort of like Motormaster. It's not an amazing head design, but it's perfectly fine and looks pretty good and fits the overall aesthetic of both him and his cohorts. Both his CHUG toys so far have captured the face-in-box thing pretty well too (though in my opinion, CW pulls it off much better than RTS).
And when you bring up the cartoon screenshot (like I did up there) alongside these previous efforts and then alongside the new one... it really starts to show that the headsculpt isn't just bad, it does not capture his likeness in the cartoon at all.
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Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:07pm CDT
Staff are allowed to talk about it, especially since it helps us make better sense of the news we get, like knowing that defensor looking torso was Inferno's. We use the resources given to us to help the community as much as we can and talking about the leak can fall into that. What we cant do is post that leak and propagate the idea that leaking stuff is the way to go (which it isnt, ideally everything should be through proper channels like what Takara does with magazines, twitter and listings). But as of right now, we interpret whatever isnt confirmed the same way we did rumours from Titans Return before the line began, which we were also allowed to talk about. Hence why whatever hasnt been shown elsewhere is written as unconfirmed in my rundown.
And in any case, that leak is almost obsolete, at least for the line pertaining to this thread. The info I broke down is mainly all we know anyways with most pics being placeholders or totally unclear.
And O Supreme, I left out that wave 4 deluxe wave because the main purpose of my post was to make things as easy and straightforward as possible to any user. Its a resource people can bookmark if ever they wonder the time frame or how much a retailer might charge if they want to budget. We dont know if thats all wave 4 is, and I didnt want to confuse anyone so I preffered just sticking to the full waves and we can discuss the rest in the comments as we are all wonderfully doing
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:07pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Guys, you're allowed to talk about -that- leak. It's just staff who aren't.
Staff are allowed to talk about it, especially since it helps us make better sense of the news we get, like knowing that defensor looking torso was Inferno's. We use the resources given to us to help the community as much as we can and talking about the leak can fall into that. What we cant do is post that leak and propagate the idea that leaking stuff is the way to go (which it isnt, ideally everything should be through proper channels like what Takara does with magazines, twitter and listings). But as of right now, we interpret whatever isnt confirmed the same way we did rumours from Titans Return before the line began, which we were also allowed to talk about. Hence why whatever hasnt been shown elsewhere is written as unconfirmed in my rundown.
And in any case, that leak is almost obsolete, at least for the line pertaining to this thread. The info I broke down is mainly all we know anyways with most pics being placeholders or totally unclear.
And O Supreme, I left out that wave 4 deluxe wave because the main purpose of my post was to make things as easy and straightforward as possible to any user. Its a resource people can bookmark if ever they wonder the time frame or how much a retailer might charge if they want to budget. We dont know if thats all wave 4 is, and I didnt want to confuse anyone so I preffered just sticking to the full waves and we can discuss the rest in the comments as we are all wonderfully doing
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Posted by Qwan on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:13pm CDT
Good comparison Kurona! I had the feeling that I would've remembered if Windcharger looked that dumb in the cartoon, but I hadn't really bothered checking yet.
That said, PotP Windcharger's face looks sooooo duuuumb. He's got this insanely pouty bored-looking face, like he's sitting on the curb waiting for his parents to finish grocery shopping and take him home. Or maybe he's on time out after getting caught sneaking those Energon cookies
Posted by Qwan on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:13pm CDT
Kurona wrote:My problem with Windcharger's head isn't that it matches how he looked in the cartoon, actually. It's that it doesn't match how he looked in the cartoon.
It's not a head jutting out from a slab; it's a face-in-a-box deal, sort of like Motormaster. It's not an amazing head design, but it's perfectly fine and looks pretty good and fits the overall aesthetic of both him and his cohorts. Both his CHUG toys so far have captured the face-in-box thing pretty well too (though in my opinion, CW pulls it off much better than RTS).
And when you bring up the cartoon screenshot (like I did up there) alongside these previous efforts and then alongside the new one... it really starts to show that the headsculpt isn't just bad, it does not capture his likeness in the cartoon at all.
Good comparison Kurona! I had the feeling that I would've remembered if Windcharger looked that dumb in the cartoon, but I hadn't really bothered checking yet.
That said, PotP Windcharger's face looks sooooo duuuumb. He's got this insanely pouty bored-looking face, like he's sitting on the curb waiting for his parents to finish grocery shopping and take him home. Or maybe he's on time out after getting caught sneaking those Energon cookies
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Posted by Un_Chakal on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:39pm CDT
In one of the newest reports there would be 12 Prime Masters with their pretender suits. That would account for all the 'big' pretender shells both Decep and Autobot.
Posted by Un_Chakal on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:39pm CDT
BombshellDaBug wrote:Un_Chakal wrote:-----Wave 4 ?/?/18--------
...Prime Masters:
???????????????????????????
...Legends:
??????????????????????????
...Deluxe:
Novastar (Firestar)
Blackwing (Darkwing)
Dinobot Slug
Rippersnapper
...Voyager:
????????????????????????????
Titan Class Predaking "Fall"
Other Possible Prime Masters:
-Autobots
Groundbreaker
Sky High
Splashdown
-Decepticons
Bugly
Finback
Iguanus
Stranglehold
If we got a new Bugly out of this line, I would be totally hyped for that.
In one of the newest reports there would be 12 Prime Masters with their pretender suits. That would account for all the 'big' pretender shells both Decep and Autobot.
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Posted by RodimusRex on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:43pm CDT
Seems more like paint to me. Watch when Takara releases that with a dark gray helmet with the corehead matching the helmet rather than the face.
This is one of these problems caused by a cartoon (not toy) accurate sculpt being painted up like a G1 toy (which had a full silver face and black visor inside a helmet).
Posted by RodimusRex on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:43pm CDT
Qwan wrote:Kurona wrote:My problem with Windcharger's head isn't that it matches how he looked in the cartoon, actually. It's that it doesn't match how he looked in the cartoon.
It's not a head jutting out from a slab; it's a face-in-a-box deal, sort of like Motormaster. It's not an amazing head design, but it's perfectly fine and looks pretty good and fits the overall aesthetic of both him and his cohorts. Both his CHUG toys so far have captured the face-in-box thing pretty well too (though in my opinion, CW pulls it off much better than RTS).
And when you bring up the cartoon screenshot (like I did up there) alongside these previous efforts and then alongside the new one... it really starts to show that the headsculpt isn't just bad, it does not capture his likeness in the cartoon at all.
Good comparison Kurona! I had the feeling that I would've remembered if Windcharger looked that dumb in the cartoon, but I hadn't really bothered checking yet.
That said, PotP Windcharger's face looks sooooo duuuumb. He's got this insanely pouty bored-looking face, like he's sitting on the curb waiting for his parents to finish grocery shopping and take him home. Or maybe he's on time out after getting caught sneaking those Energon cookies
Seems more like paint to me. Watch when Takara releases that with a dark gray helmet with the corehead matching the helmet rather than the face.
This is one of these problems caused by a cartoon (not toy) accurate sculpt being painted up like a G1 toy (which had a full silver face and black visor inside a helmet).
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Posted by Qwan on October 18th, 2017 @ 10:18pm CDT
Oh my g- you're RIGHT! I hadn't interpreted it that way, but it totally works if hypothetically done that way in the deco work. I guess I'll just be painting this thing up when I get it, or maybe waiting for the Takara version depending if I can be bothered (they'll definitely do it right, and in this case I'd say there actually is a 'right').
It doesn't fix his stupid expression unfortunately, but it looks like every Windcharger has had a stupid expression after some fashion or another. Now that I feel confident in finding a way around Forehead Boy, I can deal with the face he's making much more easily
.
Posted by Qwan on October 18th, 2017 @ 10:18pm CDT
RodimusRex wrote:Seems more like paint to me. Watch when Takara releases that with a dark gray helmet with the forehead matching the helmet rather than the face.
This is one of these problems caused by a cartoon (not toy) accurate sculpt being painted up like a G1 toy (which had a full silver face and black visor inside a helmet).
Oh my g- you're RIGHT! I hadn't interpreted it that way, but it totally works if hypothetically done that way in the deco work. I guess I'll just be painting this thing up when I get it, or maybe waiting for the Takara version depending if I can be bothered (they'll definitely do it right, and in this case I'd say there actually is a 'right').
It doesn't fix his stupid expression unfortunately, but it looks like every Windcharger has had a stupid expression after some fashion or another. Now that I feel confident in finding a way around Forehead Boy, I can deal with the face he's making much more easily
.
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Posted by Cobotron on October 18th, 2017 @ 10:55pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on October 18th, 2017 @ 10:55pm CDT
Yooooo PHOTOSHOP!
Better. But still not great.
I'm going with, G1 Ironhide and Ratchet have a better head sculpt than this poor Windcharger.
Better. But still not great.
I'm going with, G1 Ironhide and Ratchet have a better head sculpt than this poor Windcharger.
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Posted by Qwan on October 18th, 2017 @ 11:08pm CDT
Nicely done!
I was going to have a go at that myself, but my computer just got revived from the dead yesterday and I had to reinstall Photoshop first - I'm glad you got to it first anyway, 'cause that's probably a better job than I could've done!
Agreed that it's better, but still probably my least favorite of the Windcharger face-sculpts. But hey, at least it looks like the dumb cartoon model now, instead of its own unique extra-concentrated recipe of dumb. *shrug*
Posted by Qwan on October 18th, 2017 @ 11:08pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Yooooo PHOTOSHOP!
Better. But still not great.
I'm going with, G1 Ironhide and Ratchet have a better head sculpt than this poor Windcharger.
Nicely done!
I was going to have a go at that myself, but my computer just got revived from the dead yesterday and I had to reinstall Photoshop first - I'm glad you got to it first anyway, 'cause that's probably a better job than I could've done!Agreed that it's better, but still probably my least favorite of the Windcharger face-sculpts. But hey, at least it looks like the dumb cartoon model now, instead of its own unique extra-concentrated recipe of dumb. *shrug*
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Posted by Ultra Markus on October 18th, 2017 @ 11:25pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 18th, 2017 @ 11:25pm CDT
what titan class predaking? 
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Posted by Emerje on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:01am CDT
But that isn't even a cartoon accurate head, the shape is all wrong and it's missing a lot of details. It should look like his head is inside a box, sort of like a hoodie, this is strangely shaped slab with a face sticking out of it.
This is a Devastator-level bad design.
10 in one city!?
There's only 5 in my entire state, one is 11 miles away, after that the nearest is 41 miles and then 70. Same exact story with Walgreens. This is why I find store exclusives so frustrating.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:01am CDT
RodimusRex wrote:This is one of these problems caused by a cartoon (not toy) accurate sculpt being painted up like a G1 toy (which had a full silver face and black visor inside a helmet).
But that isn't even a cartoon accurate head, the shape is all wrong and it's missing a lot of details. It should look like his head is inside a box, sort of like a hoodie, this is strangely shaped slab with a face sticking out of it.
This is a Devastator-level bad design.
Randomhero wrote:Even at target when people were showing a $30 price on TR voyagers my targets and I have 10 in my city and around it all sold them for 22-24.99
10 in one city!?
There's only 5 in my entire state, one is 11 miles away, after that the nearest is 41 miles and then 70. Same exact story with Walgreens. This is why I find store exclusives so frustrating.Emerje
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Posted by RiddlerJ on October 19th, 2017 @ 8:50am CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 19th, 2017 @ 8:50am CDT
I just hope Predaking comes out all right. I've come to be afraid of Titan class figures as every one has had issues. Hopefully, they won't pull a Devastator and give us Predacons with no elbows because "TEH BUDGET"
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Posted by joevill on October 19th, 2017 @ 9:14am CDT
Posted by joevill on October 19th, 2017 @ 9:14am CDT
I just don't like the $19.99 price for deluxe class, yet I know I will still buy them!
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 19th, 2017 @ 10:55am CDT
I anger translated that for you.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 19th, 2017 @ 10:55am CDT
Emerje wrote:Randomhero wrote:Even at target when people were showing a $30 price on TR voyagers my targets and I have 10 in my city and around it all sold them for 22-24.99
10 in one city!?
Emerje
I anger translated that for you.
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Posted by Twitchythe3rd on October 19th, 2017 @ 11:54am CDT
I think he'll turn out alright. Five bots to share the budget compared to six and none of them have to use their arms as heel struts. If anything, I'd be more worried about Razorclaw getting the shaft because of the Matrix/Enigma gimmick.
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on October 19th, 2017 @ 11:54am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:I just hope Predaking comes out all right. I've come to be afraid of Titan class figures as every one has had issues. Hopefully, they won't pull a Devastator and give us Predacons with no elbows because "TEH BUDGET"
I think he'll turn out alright. Five bots to share the budget compared to six and none of them have to use their arms as heel struts. If anything, I'd be more worried about Razorclaw getting the shaft because of the Matrix/Enigma gimmick.
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Posted by o.supreme on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CDT
That's why I'm waiting on
. If Hasbro messes up, or shortcuts, TT will assuredly fix.
Posted by o.supreme on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CDT
Twitchythe3rd wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:I just hope Predaking comes out all right. I've come to be afraid of Titan class figures as every one has had issues. Hopefully, they won't pull a Devastator and give us Predacons with no elbows because "TEH BUDGET"
I think he'll turn out alright. Five bots to share the budget compared to six and none of them have to use their arms as heel struts. If anything, I'd be more worried about Razorclaw getting the shaft because of the Matrix/Enigma gimmick.
That's why I'm waiting on
. If Hasbro messes up, or shortcuts, TT will assuredly fix.
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Posted by Kurona on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:15pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:15pm CDT
Yeah! After all, we saw just how much more amazing they made Trypticon!
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Posted by o.supreme on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
They fixed the hip spring issue...
Posted by o.supreme on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Yeah! After all, we saw just how much more amazing they made Trypticon!
They fixed the hip spring issue...
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:32pm CDT
Well, they had the help of the schedule there. Hasbro themselves fixed it as well on later releases.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:32pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Kurona wrote:Yeah! After all, we saw just how much more amazing they made Trypticon!
They fixed the hip spring issue...
Well, they had the help of the schedule there. Hasbro themselves fixed it as well on later releases.
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Posted by o.supreme on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:46pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:46pm CDT
The original point still stands. Although I'm not aware of any issues with Metroplex (since I never got one, have the TT reissue on pre-order), nor issues with Fort Max...
However IMHO, UW Devastator was decidedly superior to Hasbro's CW Devastator, which is why I waited and got the import. Now I'm not expecting PotP Predaking to have any foreseeable flaws, or limitations due to production budget, but if that does happen to be the case, I'm confident that will add any possible missing accessories, as has been the case in the past.
Nothing has even been announced yet on their end. Most likely the Prime Masters, and Leader Class PotP figures will be continued in the Legends line, The legends class will either continue with TF Adventure, or since that is ending, perhaps just roll up into Legends. But I am very much hoping for a return of the UW for the Voyager and deluxe figures.
However IMHO,
UW Devastator was decidedly superior to Hasbro's CW Devastator, which is why I waited and got the import. Now I'm not expecting PotP Predaking to have any foreseeable flaws, or limitations due to production budget, but if that does happen to be the case, I'm confident that will add any possible missing accessories, as has been the case in the past.Nothing has even been announced yet on their end. Most likely the Prime Masters, and Leader Class PotP figures will be continued in the Legends line, The legends class will either continue with TF Adventure, or since that is ending, perhaps just roll up into Legends. But I am very much hoping for a return of the UW for the Voyager and deluxe figures.
