#Sideways# wrote:
Maybe they should have used a picture that showed Prime's feet not clipping into the ground.
Not really uncommon in these TF games tho, the feet clip into the ground happen all the time in the games.
#Sideways# wrote:
Maybe they should have used a picture that showed Prime's feet not clipping into the ground.
Which ones?noctorro wrote:Boy am I happy that I didn't read the comics.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Apparently, DoctorOblivian and myself do since we're having some fun discussing it.MINDVVIPE wrote:Who cares about all that aligned and multiverse crap.
I'd join in the fun, if my head wasn't hurting from precalculus right now.
Sabrblade wrote:No it wouldn't. Both that and SG Optimus Prime go against the very nature of Multiversal Singularities, in that Mult Sings do not and can not have SG counterparts, as it is simply an impossibility.DoctorOblivian wrote:In which case evil Alpha Trion as part of the 13 would fit right in! lol.
And Logos Prime is a member of the Multiversal 13, but isn't in the Aligned 13.
Can't say for certain, since I took Trig instead of Calc.DoctorOblivian wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Apparently, DoctorOblivian and myself do since we're having some fun discussing it.MINDVVIPE wrote:Who cares about all that aligned and multiverse crap.
I'd join in the fun, if my head wasn't hurting from precalculus right now.
i duno, multiversal singularities can be a a bit of a beast to understand themselves. i would say the calculus and Mult Sings are on the same level, wouldn't you agree Sabrblade? XD
That's some dangerous territory, there.DoctorOblivian wrote:treading into speculative head canon territory here
The Afterword of the Covenant of Prime book had Alpha Trion clarify that "Optimus Prime" was Thirteen's real name.DoctorOblivian wrote:Thirteen was the member of the original 13, Optimus is just his reincarnation. If one wanted to interpret it this way, Thirteen wanted to live as a "normal" cybertronian and everything that goes with it. so it could be just a mater of the fact that Thirteen was the Mult Sing, but Optimus ISNT.
the act of reincarnation itself stripped him what what it was to be one of the 13. Also regardless of that fact the OP was Thirteen reborn, he still had to EARN his right to be a prime again. This allows SG Optimus to exist without clashing with Thirteen being a Mult Sing.
I highly doubt that Hirofumi Ichikawa created the character with the intent of it being the same person as Simon Furman's character who was perceived to be his own 13er at the time. Otherwise, I also doubt there was very little stopping Ichikawa from just using Maximo instead of creating the seemingly new character of Logos Prime. So if the two were to be the person, it is very likely that Galaxy Force Soundblaster would have just been Liege Maximo and that we'd have no "Logos Prime" like we do now.DoctorOblivian wrote:For Logos Prime, Why couldn't The Liege Maximo BE Logos? isn't it implied that Leige Maximo is just his title? . We don't know too much about Logos other than he was an evil member of the 13. It would be quite easy to just merge the two together and have no real contradictions or consequences.
Logos Prime: The Liege Maximo
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
The Afterword of the Covenant of Prime book had Alpha Trion clarify that "Optimus Prime" was Thirteen's real name.Thirteen was the member of the original 13, Optimus is just his reincarnation. If one wanted to interpret it this way, Thirteen wanted to live as a "normal" cybertronian and everything that goes with it. so it could be just a mater of the fact that Thirteen was the Mult Sing, but Optimus ISNT.
the act of reincarnation itself stripped him what what it was to be one of the 13. Also regardless of that fact the OP was Thirteen reborn, he still had to EARN his right to be a prime again. This allows SG Optimus to exist without clashing with Thirteen being a Mult Sing.
Also, though his body was different, present day Optimus displayed that he still had his original Prime nature when he wielded both the powers of both the Forge and the Star Saber. He was a mystical Prime like the 13, whereas a guy like Sentinel Zeta Prime was only a secular Prime with no mystical nature, having been made a Prime through political machination only, rather than any authentic endowment like the Matrix or Primus's power itself. For Optimus, since he already had his original nature locked away within himself, the Matrix simply unlocked that which he requested be hidden away until his time of need came to awaken him.
This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.
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Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
leakin' lubricant wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
War for Cybertron deluxe Cliffjumper = G1 head
Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper render = TF Prime head
Thats why?
And what about before FOC came out, huh? People were saying it back then as well.leakin' lubricant wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
War for Cybertron deluxe Cliffjumper = G1 head
Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper render = TF Prime head
Thats why?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:And what about before FOC came out, huh? People were saying it back then as well.leakin' lubricant wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This always puzzled me. How come people who don't like this always claim that it was the games that were shoehorned into the cartoon's backstory, rather than the cartoon being forced into the games' future? After all, it was the games that came first, not the cartoon.Henry921 wrote:If this completely contradicts the Aligned continuity, I welcome it. My preference has always been for the two High Moon games to take place in a micro-continuity rather than try to awkwardly shoehorn in to the Prime cartoon's backstory, and this seems well on its way to being so.
War for Cybertron deluxe Cliffjumper = G1 head
Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper render = TF Prime head
Thats why?
And the cartoon is just as guilty of taking designs from the games as the FOC was with Cliffjumper's head:
Dude, the decision came even before WFC was even made. Hasbro was already putting together the Aligned continuity timeline and chronology even before High Moon Studios approached them about doing a video game. WFC's story was adapted from Hasbro's existing Aligned material in the Binder of Revelation.leakin' lubricant wrote:-Well the dicision would have had to have been made before FoC as it could not have been changed after.
-Seeing as WfC came before Prime and the dicision to align continuities came after WfC then it makes sence that Prime took designs for WfC.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Dude, the decision came even before WFC was even made. Hasbro was already putting together the Aligned continuity timeline and chronology before High Moon Studios approached them about doing a video game. WFC's story was adapted from Hasbro's existing Aligned material in the Binder of Revelation.leakin' lubricant wrote:-Well the dicision would have had to have been made before FoC as it could not have been changed after.
-Seeing as WfC came before Prime and the dicision to align continuities came after WfC then it makes sence that Prime took designs for WfC.
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Sabrblade wrote:Which ones?noctorro wrote:Boy am I happy that I didn't read the comics.
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Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark will merge the Cybertron game universe with the Michael Bay films. And there will be more than one version of Optimus Prime playable, including a long-time fan favorite.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:For those concerned about continuity, the inclusion of G1 Optimus could just be a as bonus feature like how FOC had him as well.
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