The Energon Pub

[Wireless_Phantom]

I really want to get that Megatron

[ZeroWolf]

Because why would a Truck the size of Prime have to be a leader class toy?

Because DOTM Megs isn't just a truck the size of prime, it is a truck and trailer which would take up at least twice the volume when the trucks were in scale with each other.

Edit: I'd love to see some side by side shots of Prime and Megs in truck modes for comparison.

They are different types of trucks.

Prime is a Peterbilt cab, while Megatron is old timey Mack Cab.

In reality, a Peterbilt Cab is about .75% the length of a Mack Cab + Tanker.

Basically what you are saying is a Truck that is normally 25 feet long should be larger than a Cybertronian Tank, and a Helicopter (Blackout) that in real life is 88ft long.

Also it should be pointed out that the real things in scale (or at least what they are trying to stick to) is robot mode.

[william-james88]

Paris Comic-Con 2018 is being held right now and Hasbro is there revealing some exciting new toys for the Studio Series line. The revealed toys belong to Wave 1 of the 2019 Studio Series line and inclue voyager Bonecrusher, voyager Revenge of the Fallen Optimus Prime and leader Jetfire. We can see that pieces from Jetfire can combine with Optimus Prime, turning him into "Jetwing" Prime. The person that was there on sight, TFW2005 member transform75, reports that this ROTF Optimus Prime (SS-32) is a remold of the SS-05 Optimus Prime figure we got earlier this year. It is currently unsure if Jetfire can only combine with this new Optimus due to said retooling or if he can attach to the previously released Prime as well.

[Ig89ninja]

I NEED THAT BONECRUSHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ZeroWolf]

Been a while since I've seen revenge of the Fallen, but did jet prime really have the two halves of the blackbird cockpit on his shoulders?

[dragons]

Thanks to fellow Seibertron users, Terrsolpix and Carnivius_Prime


mistransformed because they are blocky as heck.

We already got tank megs as a Voyager which fits the size chart better. Why would they make a leader version?

Because why would a Truck the size of Prime have to be a leader class toy? There's no reason to make a truck be leader sized, when your other leader sized items are a Helicopter and a Dinosaur.

Is that only word fans know when looking at new toy pictures is MISTRANSFORMED can’t go into one new topic without someone saying mistransformed probably first word pops in there head before commenting on what they think about toy them self it’s no crime toys are on display to show people what they can expect to buy in stores.,

Is mechanic go to car show talk about new car they can buy in yeah how car have three seats not four car itself is for display only to look at not to sit in not chance.,

Transformer toys where never in scale in with another look generation one Optimus prime standing next to generation one metroplex out of scale.

Megaton looks good on both modes

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Been a while since I've seen revenge of the Fallen, but did jet prime really have the two halves of the blackbird cockpit on his shoulders?

Yep!

Jetpower Prime.jpg

I've heard that the original SS Prime can't combine with Jetfire (which seems to be supported by the extra tabs on Prime's forearms), which is weird. You'd think the main selling point of ROTF Prime (other than the swords) now that we have a much better looking version would be combining with Jetfire.

Don't know if ROTF Prime being unable to combine is confirmed or not, though.

[Bucky]

Dragons - No, it’s not the only word fans know. It’s just being used appropriately. There isn’t anything wrong with pointing something out.
The fandom has come to expect a certain level of progression from these lines. And for a toy line that specifically strives for screen accuracy and scale (within reason), when something doesn’t look right, it really, really stands out. And this new Megs really stands out. His blockiness is just bizarre when compared to every other figure in this line. So unless this new figure is some clunky aberration, then I’d lay odds that he is mistransformed. Add to that that the majority of the times we see these new reveals at shows, some of the figures are actually mistransformed. It happens. It’s certainly not the end of the world, but it is worth mentioning. Less someone sees a figure that looks bad, because it isn’t transformed correctly, and forms a negative opinion of that figure as a result.


On the positive side; I’m very pleased to see that this Jetfire and Prime combine. I’m looking forward to seeing some close up shots, or renders of their combined mode. That Bonecrusher looks like everything I was hoping he’d be. I can’t overstate how reassuring that is. I’m pretty pumped to see the rest of the Constructicons now.

[ZeroWolf]

Dragons - No, it’s not the only word fans know. It’s just being used appropriately. There isn’t anything wrong with pointing something out.
The fandom has come to expect a certain level of progression from these lines. And for a toy line that specifically strives for screen accuracy and scale (within reason), when something doesn’t look right, it really, really stands out. And this new Megs really stands out. His blockiness is just bizarre when compared to every other figure in this line. So unless this new figure is some clunky aberration, then I’d lay odds that he is mistransformed. Add to that that the majority of the times we see these new reveals at shows, some of the figures are actually mistransformed. It happens. It’s certainly not the end of the world, but it is worth mentioning. Less someone sees a figure that looks bad, because it isn’t transformed correctly, and forms a negative opinion of that figure as a result.


On the positive side; I’m very pleased to see that this Jetfire and Prime combine. I’m looking forward to seeing some close up shots, or renders of their combined mode. That Bonecrusher looks like everything I was hoping he’d be. I can’t overstate how reassuring that is. I’m pretty pumped to see the rest of the Constructicons now.

Well said Bucky.

@EvasionmodeBumblebee thanks for the refresh! I stand connected. Also it is odd that the prime that he's supposed to combine with (rotf) he can't but the one he's supposed to combine with is actually based off his appearance in the 07 movie...

[Stryker P28]

I think the reason Jetpower Prime works is that they are in scale with each other.Last time in RoTF Optimus AND Jetfire were leader classes.Now only Jetfire is a leader class and Optimus is voyager.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

The more I look at this new SS Prime the more mold differences I'm finding. Thought I'd list them here:

SS Prime Comparison.jpg

- New SS Prime has tabs on his forearms, probably for Jetfire combination

- Obvious chest remolding

- Fuel tanks appear to be remolded

- Back piece / truck top on old SS Prime (where the swords can plug into in robot mode) is new, doesn't have the ports for the swords and can instead split into different pieces for more robot-mode accuracy.

- Lower pieces on the truck mode grill for new SS Prime are new, appear to be hinged and can seemingly separate from the rest of the grill.

- (This is the one I just noticed) - New SS Prime doesn't have the red pieces on his thighs that the upper tires are attached to - the tires now sit closer to the leg.

Optimus may actually be the figure I'm most excited about from these reveals. He looks SO good!

Edit: Now, the paint on the final products often differs, but in the art for the new SS Prime he has painted hubcaps too

[Ironhidensh]

Well, ****.

[ZeroWolf]

To go along with the reveals of Studio Series 07 movie Optimus Prime and Bonecrusher, we now have the official images from Hasbro's presentation! These are both Voyager scale, and while Optimus Prime is a retool of the already released RotF Optimus Prime, Bonecrusher is a completely new mold, and the pair of them look ready to throw down like that iconic scene in the 2007 live action movie. These were revealed at Comic Con Paris.





UPDATE:

We now have an official image for Leader Class Jetfire showing off this versions alt mode,this also comes from the same presentation that revealed 07 Prime and Bonecrusher.



These images can also be found on the Transformers Facebook page.

Also fellow Seibertron user Evasion Mode Bumblebee, has been kind enough to point out some of the changes between the two Optimus Prime releases. It's also believed that 07 Prime has been altered to combine with the Leader Class Jetfire revealed earlier, and who you can see again in the picture above.

- New SS Prime has tabs on his forearms, probably for Jetfire combination

- Obvious chest remolding

- Fuel tanks appear to be remolded

- Back piece / truck top on old SS Prime (where the swords can plug into in robot mode) is new, doesn't have the ports for the swords and can instead split into different pieces for more robot-mode accuracy.

- Lower pieces on the truck mode grill for new SS Prime are new, appear to be hinged and can seemingly separate from the rest of the grill.

- (This is the one I just noticed) - New SS Prime doesn't have the red pieces on his thighs that the upper tires are attached to - the tires now sit closer to the leg.

What do you think of these? Will you be double dipping on Prime? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

[Sigmus Prime]

I'm glad I skipped the first Prime. This one looks much better in terms of molding and colors. Now all we need is '09 Concept Camaro Bumblebee!

[Agent 53]

I'm glad I skipped out on the first Prime. This one looks much better in terms of molding and colors.

That was exactly what I was thinking. Even though I doubt he will perfectly reflect the 3D render above I can see he will look better and we will get a new combining Optimus and Jetfire, plus the Voyager/Leader thing makes sense, Optimus probably is smaller that Jetfire, what with how one is a jet plane and the other is a semi-truck.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Now all we need is '09 Concept Camaro Bumblebee!

YES.

Although I'd be happy with the concept Camaro modes from any of the first 3 movies. DOTM would be my dream, but I think the MV1 concept Camaro mode is in greater need of a deluxe update.

I'm ok with them taking their time with it too though, we do have a lot of Bees in SS right now (not that I'm complaining).

Also, thanks for newsing my SS Prime comparison, Zerowolf!

[Randomhero]

I don’t have the first Optimus so I can’t say for sure and this is a retool but doesn’t optimus look like he shares some transformation elements with TF Prime first edition Optimus? I see it in the arms and fake chest

[ZeroWolf]

Now all we need is '09 Concept Camaro Bumblebee!

YES.

Although I'd be happy with the concept Camaro modes from any of the first 3 movies. DOTM would be my dream, but I think the MV1 concept Camaro mode is in greater need of a deluxe update.

I'm ok with them taking their time with it too though, we do have a lot of Bees in SS right now (not that I'm complaining).

Also, thanks for newsing my SS Prime comparison, Zerowolf!

Thank you for making it things like that are a great help to show people what the differences are.

[Dinobot-Snarl]

I think that I am officially done with Tak/Tomy/Hasbro. I am more and more finding myself drawn to third-party TFs. Got FT-10 Phoenix and TW-C07 Green Constructor with TW-C07F Weathered Yellow on pre-order from BBTS. Just bought DX9 D08 Gewalt and DX9 D05 Chigurh.

I will create a battle diorama with these figures, but I am selling the TW-C07 Green Constructor and will add another Autobot combiner like MT Quantron or FT-20 Terminus Giganticus Aegis Sentinel A&B to aid FT-10 Phoenix in the battle for peace. The horrid movies really ruined it for me. I am happy to say goodbye to licensed TFs for good. I must admit though that I find the Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Drift with Mini Dinobots exceptionally cute for all the right reasons.

[-Kanrabat-]

I got the first Optimus because I needed my plastic fix and he was on sale.
Turn out he's bad.

But that new one who is definitely not a lazy repaint may be worth getting.
Oh yeah, and that Bonecrusher too. He'll replace my 2007 deluxe in my Bey Constructicons display for sure.

[Emerje]

Yeah, add me to the list of people that are glad they didn't get the original Voyager Op. I only have a few SS figures, but I try to collect good Prime figures and that first one just wasn't doing it for me. Now I'm pretty sure I want the new Prime and Jetfire.

Emerje

[ZeroWolf]

Don't blame you replacing the original Bonecrusher, he should have been a Voyager from day one.

[ZeroWolf]

News article has been updated with new picture of Jetfire.

[Shuttershock]

Interesting. Bonecrusher still looks like he’s carrying a lot of vehicle kibble on his forearms, but at least they seem allocated better and aren’t gangly monstrosities. The size class should help too. I don’t expect him to be huge, but much like Ironhide have his price point go into making him hefty and beefy.

[Skritz]

While I don't collect Studio Series (budget reasons, mostly) I can safely that this Bonecrusher looks pretty damn good. If the final figure is anything close to the promo images then this may very well be the definitive Movie Bonecrusher.