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[skycutter]

Studio Series is Studio Series. Doesn't really matter what film it is...

And there's a perfectly good G1 centered line called War for cybertron that is cranking out 3 times the number of SS figures per year between waves and exclusives and by extension selects.

Put. Them. There.

but then we won't have room for the beast wars in wfc3

[Sowndwave76]

I know some of this discussion is speculation-- which I have no problem with, it's fun to think about future possibilities-- but the potential of the SS taking on more than the live-action movie stuff is really exciting to me. Although I have no interest in BW, it's awesome that those characters are going to get some more attention in general, and I completely understand it's beyond overdue.

I am so anxious to see the aesthetic of these '86 movie figures... While creating a 3D version of a cartoon would seem easy, how simplified and cartoon-ish will they go?
Or does anyone think they may just take figures that could've been released with ER, use movie-based paint-apps and put them in SS packaging? I hope not, I would hate that.
Maybe simplified (cartoon-accurate) molds and even paint apps will allow a leader class fig to be substantially larger than a current voyager?
Either way it's going to be real interesting to see what they pull-off (or don't pull-off).

Also, for me personally, it's going to be interesting to see if these SS figures are good enough to have me move even further away from the MP and 3P lines.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Studio Series is Studio Series. Doesn't really matter what film it is...

And there's a perfectly good G1 centered line called War for cybertron that is cranking out 3 times the number of SS figures per year between waves and exclusives and by extension selects.

Put. Them. There.

but then we won't have room for the beast wars in wfc3

But we also shouldn't have to choose between Beast Wars and completing the live action cast.

Why is it so difficult for Transformers to do this

[skycutter]

Studio Series is Studio Series. Doesn't really matter what film it is...

And there's a perfectly good G1 centered line called War for cybertron that is cranking out 3 times the number of SS figures per year between waves and exclusives and by extension selects.

Put. Them. There.

but then we won't have room for the beast wars in wfc3

But we also shouldn't have to choose between Beast Wars and completing the live action cast.

Why is it so difficult for Transformers to do this

because a. 35th anniversary of the movie coming out next year, B, the big names are mostly gone so that leave some obscure one the majoritiy of people won't buy, c as i said, to make room

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Studio Series is Studio Series. Doesn't really matter what film it is...

And there's a perfectly good G1 centered line called War for cybertron that is cranking out 3 times the number of SS figures per year between waves and exclusives and by extension selects.

Put. Them. There.

but then we won't have room for the beast wars in wfc3

But we also shouldn't have to choose between Beast Wars and completing the live action cast.

Why is it so difficult for Transformers to do this

because a. 35th anniversary of the movie coming out next year, B, the big names are mostly gone so that leave some obscure one the majoritiy of people won't buy, c as i said, to make room

a) still don't know why a 35th anniversary is so important for practically anything, it's not a 25th or anything

b) There are still 4 potential Bees and 3 potential Primes to do, plus a Galvatron and Megatron. Still got plenty there to work with.

c) Then don't make as many G1 guys. If you only need like 12 slots, put them in WFC. G1 does not need all the room.

d) next year is the DotM 10th anniversary, so if anything we should actually complete that cast which includes some notables without toys, some more weird designs like they did with the constructicons (who sold like hotcakes), and also 10th is an actual thing (5, 10, 20, 25, 50, 75, 100 are actual celebration years)

[Mindmaster]

If Scourge is indeed coming out and he looks good, I’ll probably snag him and get another 2010 Deluxe to go with the one I already have and have those be the Sweeps. They’d be different enough from their boss to justify me getting the rumored Voyager and he’d be in scale with Titans Return Galvatron (shudder) and the leaked Cyclonus (who again, I’ll keep the Deluxe one as “his Armada”).

Speaking of, if there’s one guy who needs updating most, why ain’t it Galvatron??? Titans Return was so close to perfection but was ruined by the Titan Master gimmick and the lack of a port on the side of his arm for optional side-mounting of his cannon.

[-WonkoTheSane-]

Leader class Dinobots, you say?

Will we finally get the official Dinobots we deserve?

If so, It'd be long overdue.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

a) still don't know why a 35th anniversary is so important for practically anything, it's not a 25th or anything

b) There are still 4 potential Bees and 3 potential Primes to do, plus a Galvatron and Megatron. Still got plenty there to work with.

c) Then don't make as many G1 guys. If you only need like 12 slots, put them in WFC. G1 does not need all the room.

d) next year is the DotM 10th anniversary, so if anything we should actually complete that cast which includes some notables without toys, some more weird designs like they did with the constructicons (who sold like hotcakes), and also 10th is an actual thing (5, 10, 20, 25, 50, 75, 100 are actual celebration years)

I wonder what we could see for DOTM’s 10th anniversary other than filling in some of the gaps in SS. We got the MPMs for 07’s tenth and SS Devastator for ROTF’s tenth, so maybe we’ll see something big. My first thought would be the Driller, but I know how feasible that would be.

[-Kanrabat-]

Sounds like a plan. It’s just kind of jarring for what’s been a movie figures thread to suddenly be overrun by G1.

It's a trick to make Bay haters buy Studio Series figure!

[Ultra Mad]

I really hope we get the all of the 86 movie dinobots in Leader class and that they are beefier then voyager size packed as leader with accessory. If I remember, Movie leader Grimlock had a great size for a leader. Hopefully it will be the same with 86 Grimlock.

[Immortal Starscream]

Could we maybe set up a separate discussion thread for the SS-86 stuff?

Depends on how it's marketed if it's a subline then yes but if it's just a different image on the lower part of the box like all he other different movies, then probably not. It's a wait and see game till the first figure is officially revealed.

Sounds like a plan. It’s just kind of jarring for what’s been a movie figures thread to suddenly be overrun by G1.

Well in a way it kind of makes sense. While there are still bayverse and beeverse movie figures to be made, they are running out of them. Padding the line a bit to keep it running untill the next theatrical release kind of makes sense. That being said, I still think putting these in the studio series line seems a bit off personally. However, if they are to be as movie accurate as possible, then they ultimately wouldn't have the same level of sculpted details that out generations line have been having. Kinda like how modern Tamara MP's focus on toon accuracy and don't quite mesh as well with the older masterpiece line.

Either way, if the dinobots are AT LEAST as big as Optimus or bigger, then I don't care if they sell them as Go-bots the Space Knights of M.A.S.K. I would still be happy to get them.


But ya also give us the rest of the bayverse dinobots. Horrible movie, but wicked cool dinobots.

[Autobot N]

I wonder if this isn't an attempt to transition Studio Series to something more like Marvel Legends or Black Series. Have Studio Series be the line for accurate, gimmickless figures from all corners of the franchise (G1, BW, Movie, UT, etc), and have Generations as sort of a Prime Wars type line where they experiment with new things, and bring new ideas to old characters.

[Ultra Mad]

But ya also give us the rest of the bayverse dinobots. Horrible movie, but wicked cool dinobots.

I agree. Those were really cool Dinobots. Hopefully, they will all be large leader class, like Grimlock

[ZeroWolf]

I wonder if this isn't an attempt to transition Studio Series to something more like Marvel Legends or Black Series. Have Studio Series be the line for accurate, gimmickless figures from all corners of the franchise (G1, BW, Movie, UT, etc), and have Generations as sort of a Prime Wars type line where they experiment with new things, and bring new ideas to old characters.

Actually I think it's more of a cynical having your cake and eating it too. 86 movie figures? Beast wars figures? In the same year? It pleases both halves of the fan base that won't stop going on about it

Plus I think it's a good way to make sure people don't balk at the idea of the Transformers prequel movie being included in Studio Series if they can point to the 86 cartoon movie being there. Afterall I think the prequel is the next tf movie we'll get.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

ImmortalStarscream, They're hardly running out of characters yet. But they are short on big names.

Studio Series is Studio Series. Doesn't really matter what film it is...

And there's a perfectly good G1 centered line called War for cybertron that is cranking out 3 times the number of SS figures per year between waves and exclusives and by extension selects.

Put. Them. There.

WFC only has so much room, especially if the nostalgia is expanding to other franchises. And most of these '86 figures seem to be Voyagers and Leaders, which there are fewer slots available for.. Meanwhile the only non-redeco Leaders left for Studio Series are Devcon (a one-off character with no lines, although he has a cool unique design) and The Fallen, and most of those left who would fill Voyager slots are minor...
But I don't think it's just slots. I think distribution is also playing a big role in this, possibly even bigger than slots. There's no denying that WFC's distribution is a trainwreck. Meanwhile Studio Series seems to be doing relatively fine distribution-wise, so there's less fear of the milestone stuff getting held up in the pipeline.

Also, any fifth year is a celebration year anymore. And Hasbro has been celebrating 35th anniversaries across more than just Transformers.

I do hope that once they get the '86 movie cast out of their system SS goes back to purely Bayverse toys, though.

I wonder if this isn't an attempt to transition Studio Series to something more like Marvel Legends or Black Series. Have Studio Series be the line for accurate, gimmickless figures from all corners of the franchise (G1, BW, Movie, UT, etc),

Oxymoron alert!

and have Generations as sort of a Prime Wars type line where they experiment with new things, and bring new ideas to old characters.

Nah, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of capitalizing on Studio Series' better distribution to squeeze the '86 characters out on time, justified under "Well, that was also a movie so it totally counts"

If any line would make sense to transition to Marvel Legends style, it's the main Generations line. But A. The G1 characters need the new toys more than the later lines do, at least right now and B. Trying to do a Marvel Legends style line with Transformers is harder, since they're more expensive and take up more shelf space.

[Bombshell0001]

Boy am i glad I held off on pulling the trigger on the fanstoys dinobots . I hope these turn out well .

[TulioDude]

If they do Leader class G1 dinobots,there is no excuse to not doing the same for the Movie Dinobots.

Day 194 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

[joeformer]

Great news as long as it’s a at least four point articulated Daniel that fits in the exosuit. If small companies can do it why can’t hasbro? Please do t make it a figurine.

[First-Aid]

Great news as long as it’s a at least four point articulated Daniel that fits in the exosuit. If small companies can do it why can’t hasbro? Please do t make it a figurine.

I'm expecting a Battlemaster-type figure or slightly larger. LIke I said earlier, I think this figure will be slightly larger than a voyager and the extra piece is why it is leader class.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Great news as long as it’s a at least four point articulated Daniel that fits in the exosuit. If small companies can do it why can’t hasbro? Please do t make it a figurine.

Well, don't forget what those 3P figures cost.

[-Kanrabat-]

Great news as long as it’s a at least four point articulated Daniel that fits in the exosuit. If small companies can do it why can’t hasbro? Please do t make it a figurine.

Well, don't forget what those 3P figures cost.

They are also MP scaled so apple and oranges mostly.

That's why if those SS leader Dinobots can be "Budget MP", it will make many, like me, happy.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Great news as long as it’s a at least four point articulated Daniel that fits in the exosuit. If small companies can do it why can’t hasbro? Please do t make it a figurine.

Well, don't forget what those 3P figures cost.

They are also MP scaled so apple and oranges mostly.

That's why if those SS leader Dinobots can be "Budget MP", it will make many, like me, happy.

I was talking about the 3P human+exosuit figures, not the 3P pseudo-MP Dinobots. Although the 3P human+exosuit figures are probably also MP scale, because with the exception of PC-16 3P have abandoned pseudo-Classics for umpteen pseudo-MPs and proprietary-scale figures...

[-Kanrabat-]

Oh, I do know about the 3P human figures, but they are indeed MP-scaled.

As far as human partners go for the SS line, I'd be fine with a remolded Micromaster for the exosuit, and a remolded titanmaster for the lone human.

[Tuned Agent]

Anyone else notice that Slag is actually named Slag?

[ZeroWolf]

Anyone else notice that Slag is actually named Slag?

I did, I wondered if they thought that it might have dropped out of use in the UK lexicon (Where it's an insult aimed at women primarily) or if they plan to change it later.