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Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold

Transformers News: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold

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Images of Transformers Studio Series leader class Springer are being shared online, coming from an e-bay listing. They show a comparison between this new Springer and the voyager mold it's based on (specifically the Amazon exclusive toy based redeco). We can now see how much retooling or new tooling is involved, such as the head, chest, ect. We also see that the new one has articulated hands and comes with more accessories. You'll let us know if it's worth it to get this new one or not.

Transformers News: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold

Transformers News: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold

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Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180332)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 14th, 2024 @ 5:44pm CDT
Nope. Not worth the extra $$$. I would get it if I didn't have Siege already, but he's good enough.

And do you really think we're getting a comic edition Rodimus? Out of the Kingdom figure? Or a new mold, since the box will most likely be for a leader figure?
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180333)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2024 @ 6:05pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:And do you really think we're getting a comic edition Rodimus? Out of the Kingdom figure? Or a new mold, since the box will most likely be for a leader figure?
The latest rumor is that the final fourth Marvel set will be a 2-pack of Xaaron and Flame, who will probably be no larger than Deluxes if they wanna keep the packaging size consistent.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180334)
Posted by ThunderThruster on May 14th, 2024 @ 6:21pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Nope. Not worth the extra $$$. I would get it if I didn't have Siege already, but he's good enough.


This covers my thoughts also.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180336)
Posted by BLIX007 on May 14th, 2024 @ 6:32pm CDT
Yeaaaah I am not saying nope but will probably wait till it has been on shelves for 6 months and drops in price on Amazon like ss86 leader starscream.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180338)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 14th, 2024 @ 6:58pm CDT
I was holding out a little bit of hope that we'd see TLK Drift who we had a listing for a while ago in this wave, but got reportedly delayed. Nothing for me from today's stuff, but we should see that ROTF multipack in July so there's something to look forward to before 2025!
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180339)
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:03pm CDT
The SS86 Springer is not ugly but it looks nowhere near as good as the Siege version. It has too much grey and a blue Autobot symbol.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180340)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:06pm CDT
Triggerdick Megatron wrote:The SS86 Springer is not ugly but it looks nowhere near as good as the Siege version. It has too much grey and a blue Autobot symbol.
No, you got that backwards. The gray one with the blue :WRECKERS: is the Siege-molded Amazon Wreckers Springer. SS86 Springer is the other one.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180341)
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:14pm CDT
Phew! My mistake, thanks for clearing that up, Sabrblade.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180342)
Posted by cloudballoon on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:16pm CDT
Is the SS86 Springer better? Absolutely! Is it worth the extra $$$? Doubt it. But even if the extra $$$ is not a concern (say...a gift). I don't feel I will like SS86 a single bit more than the Siege one. So why pay for ZERO excitement? A bit more screen accuracy is not worth the waste of money & the energy to figure out how to handle the old figure.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180343)
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:22pm CDT
cloudballoon wrote:Is the SS86 Springer better? Absolutely! Is it worth the extra $$$? Doubt it. But even if the extra $$$ is not a concern (say...a gift). I don't feel I will like SS86 a single bit more than the Siege one. So why pay for ZERO excitement? A bit more screen accuracy is not worth the waste of money & the energy to figure out how to handle the old figure.


I agree, but I will get the SS86 as I currently have no Springer.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180344)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And do you really think we're getting a comic edition Rodimus? Out of the Kingdom figure? Or a new mold, since the box will most likely be for a leader figure?
The latest rumor is that the final fourth Marvel set will be a 2-pack of Xaaron and Flame, who will probably be no larger than Deluxes if they wanna keep the packaging size consistent.
And Flame is a UK exclusive character, correct? Would he use a Rodimus mold?
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180346)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:27pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And do you really think we're getting a comic edition Rodimus? Out of the Kingdom figure? Or a new mold, since the box will most likely be for a leader figure?
The latest rumor is that the final fourth Marvel set will be a 2-pack of Xaaron and Flame, who will probably be no larger than Deluxes if they wanna keep the packaging size consistent.
And Flame is a UK exclusive character, correct? Would he use a Rodimus mold?
He turns into a tank.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180347)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:38pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And do you really think we're getting a comic edition Rodimus? Out of the Kingdom figure? Or a new mold, since the box will most likely be for a leader figure?
The latest rumor is that the final fourth Marvel set will be a 2-pack of Xaaron and Flame, who will probably be no larger than Deluxes if they wanna keep the packaging size consistent.
And Flame is a UK exclusive character, correct? Would he use a Rodimus mold?
He turns into a tank.
Well then it's gotta be someone heavily retooled, because I can't picture Xaaron being a reused mold, and I doubt they'll give us 2 brand new molds.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180348)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2024 @ 7:51pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:And do you really think we're getting a comic edition Rodimus? Out of the Kingdom figure? Or a new mold, since the box will most likely be for a leader figure?
The latest rumor is that the final fourth Marvel set will be a 2-pack of Xaaron and Flame, who will probably be no larger than Deluxes if they wanna keep the packaging size consistent.
And Flame is a UK exclusive character, correct? Would he use a Rodimus mold?
He turns into a tank.
Well then it's gotta be someone heavily retooled, because I can't picture Xaaron being a reused mold, and I doubt they'll give us 2 brand new molds.
I'm told there have been some really good fan customs of Xaaron made out of Cyberverse Deluxe class Megatron.

Though, it remains to be seen if Hasbro would be willing to use a Cyberverse Deluxe mold for a Legacy figure even if those Deluxes were largely on par with Legacy-styled engineering.

Then again, no one expected them to use a Studio Series Bumblebee movie mold for Legacy Javelin, so who knows? Guess we'll just have to be surprised.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180355)
Posted by cloudballoon on May 14th, 2024 @ 9:44pm CDT
Triggerdick Megatron wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:Is the SS86 Springer better? Absolutely! Is it worth the extra $$$? Doubt it. But even if the extra $$$ is not a concern (say...a gift). I don't feel I will like SS86 a single bit more than the Siege one. So why pay for ZERO excitement? A bit more screen accuracy is not worth the waste of money & the energy to figure out how to handle the old figure.


I agree, but I will get the SS86 as I currently have no Springer.


If I don't have Siege Springer, I'd PO this SS86 version. If I can find a redeco scheme to repaint the Siege version, I'll probably get the SS86 if it goes on clearance. But I don't know TF lore deep enough to know what redeco character is there for it.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180358)
Posted by Emerje on May 15th, 2024 @ 4:17am CDT
cloudballoon wrote:
Triggerdick Megatron wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:Is the SS86 Springer better? Absolutely! Is it worth the extra $$$? Doubt it. But even if the extra $$$ is not a concern (say...a gift). I don't feel I will like SS86 a single bit more than the Siege one. So why pay for ZERO excitement? A bit more screen accuracy is not worth the waste of money & the energy to figure out how to handle the old figure.


I agree, but I will get the SS86 as I currently have no Springer.


If I don't have Siege Springer, I'd PO this SS86 version. If I can find a redeco scheme to repaint the Siege version, I'll probably get the SS86 if it goes on clearance. But I don't know TF lore deep enough to know what redeco character is there for it.

Only other deco that makes any realistic sense is toy colors and we got that in the Wreck N' Rule collection at Amazon.

Incidentally, Entertainment Earth has the case packouts. Not really sure why they're just repeating the same figures from the previous wave instead of trying to cycle in some older popular figures that may have not been easy to find in abundance in stores.

Core wave 10
Actual breakdown not given but an 8 figure case includes
SS86 Steeljaw
SS86 Ratchet
Bumblebee Movie Rumble

Deluxe wave 25
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX TF7 BARCELONA (ROTB Wheeljack)
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX MV6 SUNSTREAKE
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX WFC SIDESWIPE
3x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX WFC DECEPTICON

Voyager wave 25
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY MV6 SHOCKWAVE
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY MV6 SKYWARP

Leader wave 15
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR MV6 MEGATRON
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR AST TF86 SWOOP

They really should reissue Noah, Rumble was just released this year. But who knows, maybe he's in the wave with Starscream.

The early leak for the Deluxe wave showed a new The Last Knight Drift and ReActivate Lifeline, but I guess those guys are in limbo so they just gave us Sideswipe and Sunstreaker two waves in a row and Wheeljack from the wave before that (which in his case may have been the plan all along, leaks didn't include repacks).

Emerje
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180359)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 15th, 2024 @ 4:31am CDT
I may be in the minority, but I find BOTH Springers to be uninteresting. Those will be an easy skip.

The SS86 release I'm really exited about is Bumblebee. Not only does the bot look PERFECT, especially compared to the previous Netflix, the vehicle is very G1 toy accurate. Overall, it's even way better than the second MP.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180363)
Posted by william-james88 on May 15th, 2024 @ 7:59am CDT
You probabably noticed that yesterday's reveals did not seem numerous enough to fill a whole wave of Studio Series toys. Well that's because the wave will be made up mostly of repacks, and we now know their contents thanks to listings on Entertainment Earth. You'll notice that 86 Bumblebee and TF One Prime are not there and that's because they are in their own specific case that retailers can order all year round.

Core wave 10
Actual breakdown not given but an 8 figure case includes
SS86 Steeljaw
SS86 Ratchet
Bumblebee Movie Rumble

Deluxe wave 25
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX TF7 BARCELONA (ROTB Wheeljack)
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX MV6 SUNSTREAKE
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX WFC SIDESWIPE
3x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX WFC DECEPTICON

Voyager wave 25
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY MV6 SHOCKWAVE
2x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY MV6 SKYWARP

Leader wave 15
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR MV6 MEGATRON
1x TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR AST TF86 SWOOP

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Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180409)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 15th, 2024 @ 7:19pm CDT
With regards to the reveals, they were very disappointing. I can't believe we are to the point where I am only going to buy a single figure from a wave of Studio Series, and that is the 4th use of a mold.

Springer is not a leader, sorry, that level of retooling should've kept him at a voyager, and those accessories are not enough for a leader.

In other news, I do really enjoy Sunstreaker

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Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180435)
Posted by Bumblebee1188 on May 15th, 2024 @ 10:16pm CDT
I like both versions a lot, and can't choose a favorite depending on the angle. The siege version looks better from the side and back, but the SS looks better from the front IMO. I think I will likely pick this up for the accessories, and the lack of battle damage. I like having multiple versions of the same character if both versions are good. I still want to go back and get that CHUG springer from years ago. It was a really neat looking one and I liked it's redesign. It also looked good as sandstorm, and I think there was a hot rod repaint?

Anyways, ramble over. Cool figure. Nuff said.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180453)
Posted by ThunderThruster on May 16th, 2024 @ 4:28am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Springer is not a leader, sorry, that level of retooling should've kept him at a voyager, and those accessories are not enough for a leader.


Agreed. Just comparatively, all those accessories alone wouldn't match the material used for Siege Astrotrain's tender, and that's also not factoring in that Astrotrain came with 5 weapons.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180455)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 16th, 2024 @ 4:47am CDT
ThunderThruster wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Springer is not a leader, sorry, that level of retooling should've kept him at a voyager, and those accessories are not enough for a leader.


Agreed. Just comparatively, all those accessories alone wouldn't match the material used for Siege Astrotrain's tender, and that's also not factoring in that Astrotrain came with 5 weapons.


This could also be compared to the SS86 Throne Starscream, but at least his accessories were quite large.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180459)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 16th, 2024 @ 8:06am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Springer is not a leader, sorry, that level of retooling should've kept him at a voyager, and those accessories are not enough for a leader.


Agreed. Just comparatively, all those accessories alone wouldn't match the material used for Siege Astrotrain's tender, and that's also not factoring in that Astrotrain came with 5 weapons.


This could also be compared to the SS86 Throne Starscream, but at least his accessories were quite large.

The throne and cape both occupied a fair amount of space, so those accessories were somewhat worth the price, even if they clearly were not highly desired
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180471)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 16th, 2024 @ 10:05am CDT
ER Optimus Prime

SS86 Starscream

SS86 Springer

Legacy leader Soundwave

All of these are voyagers with an accessory pack sold as "leaders."
Love it or gate it, the trend seems to stay.

So, which voyager will be "leaderified" next?
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180475)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 16th, 2024 @ 10:53am CDT
Thing is, Springer really doesn't have extra mass. He has basically 4 new standard sized accessories. That isn't a $20 upgrade. And the changes to his robot mode are in-line with what they could do with a voyager retool, so it's not like that added a lot either
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180479)
Posted by Emerje on May 16th, 2024 @ 11:11am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Springer is not a leader, sorry, that level of retooling should've kept him at a voyager, and those accessories are not enough for a leader.


Agreed. Just comparatively, all those accessories alone wouldn't match the material used for Siege Astrotrain's tender, and that's also not factoring in that Astrotrain came with 5 weapons.


This could also be compared to the SS86 Throne Starscream, but at least his accessories were quite large.

This is probably closer to how they justified making Hot Rod a Voyager, but upping the parts count and adding a bunch of individual accessories. Even though they seemed to just be updating parts 1:1, they actually added more function to the new ones. The hands are now two parts and the, the wheels are now pinned to his arms instead of popped onto his shoulders, and his backpack is now at least 3 chunky parts instead of one. That's just the obvious stuff.

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I think this is a much better update than just putting new hands on Starscream and a throne (the same throne that didn't really affect the price when included with the Nemesis Brdige three pack).

Emerje
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180493)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 16th, 2024 @ 4:19pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
I think this is a much better update than just putting new hands on Starscream and a throne (the same throne that didn't really affect the price when included with the Nemesis Brdige three pack).

Emerje


You forgot the cape and crown, accessories that are basically a downscale from MP-11, plus the extra null rays that came with it. They could have charged the leader price just for those, but they overkilled it with the throne.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180497)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 16th, 2024 @ 5:50pm CDT
I don't think I've been more underwhelmed by a figure than SS86 Coronation Starscream.
That whole scene in the movie was actually really cool and very memorable, but none of that was captured in that figure release.
On top of that, imo it was a horrible use of a leader class slot, and annoyed me even more since I'm such a fan of this subline.

I am very happy with this new Springer, even just for the figure itself.
The accessories are fine, but didn't really do anything to sway me or up my excitement. Now, I can agree that this doesn't seem worthy of $55+. But I do like this character a lot, and this version is improved enough, especially making him taller; he's supposed to be as big as Optimus.
The price is also probably easier for me to digest since so far I'm skipping everything from Legacy except Gears. Yeah, I'm assuming I'll get Legacy Soundwave, partially because of the cassettes. But still...
My main purchases will be Swoop, Springer, CC OP, Blaster, and Bee. Steeljaw will be a little icing.
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180581)
Posted by Emerje on May 20th, 2024 @ 11:42am CDT
Bumblebee Movie Core class Starscream finally got listed on Amazon, however it's unavailable.

https://www.amazon.com/transformers-tra ... b0cfzfslxk?tag=seibertron07-20&

Emerje
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180588)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 20th, 2024 @ 4:13pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Bumblebee Movie Core class Starscream finally got listed on Amazon, however it's unavailable.

https://www.amazon.com/transformers-tra ... b0cfzfslxk?tag=seibertron07-20&

Emerje


I got an order in last week when it was listed as "Buy now and we'll let you know if we ship it."
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180591)
Posted by Emerje on May 20th, 2024 @ 8:43pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Bumblebee Movie Core class Starscream finally got listed on Amazon, however it's unavailable.

https://www.amazon.com/transformers-tra ... b0cfzfslxk?tag=seibertron07-20&

Emerje


I got an order in last week when it was listed as "Buy now and we'll let you know if we ship it."

You should have said something, people have been asking about that for a while now since it hasn't been officially announced by Hasbro yet (just Takara Tomy). Even the other news sights seem to have just noticed.

Emerje
Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180674)
Posted by Overcracker on May 22nd, 2024 @ 3:54pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Bumblebee Movie Core class Starscream finally got listed on Amazon, however it's unavailable.

https://www.amazon.com/transformers-tra ... b0cfzfslxk?tag=seibertron07-20&

Emerje


It now reads the following:
$9.99
Temporarily out of stock.
We are working hard to be back in stock. Place your order and we’ll email you when we have an estimated delivery date. You won’t be charged until the item ships.

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Re: Comparison Images Between SS Leader Springer and Siege Voyager Springer Mold (2180746)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 24th, 2024 @ 12:51pm CDT
I have a theory about our “Next Gen” Bumblebee who’s slated for Studio Series wave 4 this year.

My Initial thought would have been Reactivate, but with the recent news that they don’t plan on doing anything from Reactivate this year and the fact that the listing hasn’t disappeared like Reactivate Lifeline, makes me think that it isn’t Reactivate.

Now, they’ll often use descriptors like “Next Gen” to differentiate between two Bumblebee designs from the same movie, like Clunker Bumblebee for the 2007 movie or Offroad Bumblebee for the Jeep design from BB. I think “Next Gen” is a good descriptor for AOE Concept Camaro Bumblebee, used to differentiate it from the High Octane design for Bumblebee from the same movie. It’d be cool if we got something for AOE’s 10th!

I’m certainly not getting my hopes up considering how the line has been the last few years, but I’d love if this next gen Bee was the AOE concept Camaro design!

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