The Energon Pub

[Deadput]

Sqweeks can't be a new Bayformer, because I can see all of its vehicles parts in robot mode lol.

What kinda of stupid statement is that?


Most of the designs revealed thus far have vehicle kibble and AOE Transformers did have kibble as well but it was more hidden for example Optimus has visable door handles on his chest.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Sqweeks can't be a new Bayformer, because I can see all of its vehicles parts in robot mode lol.

What kinda of stupid statement is that?
Most of the designs revealed thus far have vehicle kibble and AOE Transformers did have kibble as well but it was more hidden for example Optimus has visable door handles on his chest.

It was a joke considering every alt mode part is visible instead of some hidden or hard to see

[william-james88]

It would seem to me since Cybertronians have a techno-scanning ability which allows them to change their alt form, while getting healed of all damage, that more of them would take advantage of it. For example, in RotF, Skids and Mudflap used it to change from a combining ice cream truck into separate vehicles w/ newer bodies. And in AoE, Optimus Prime used it to shed the beat down box semi-cab form and removing all the damage while acquiring a newer form of semi. I don't see why other Cybertronians like Jetfire and Sqweeks wouldn't take advantage of it.

I thought the look of Optimus at the begining of AOE was superficial. Afterall, it was called Evasion Mode in the merchandise, hinting that it was aesthetics. Sure, he was wounded as well, but its not entirely related since he healed himself with the help of Cade for a while and was back to full form (fighting Lockdown and Cemetery Wind) while his look didnt change.

So I think the scanning is just for a different aesthetically looking body but not indicative of the state of a robot's health and it wouldnt heal them either. The best example is Bumblebee in the first movie. he was in hiding so he looked like crap. And when he was no longer in hiding, he took on a nicer look. But the robot was always in as good a shape.

[Deadput]

I thought the look of Optimus at the begining of AOE was superficial. Afterall, it was called Evasion Mode in the merchandise, hinting that it was aesthetics. Sure, he was wounded as well, but its not entirely related since he healed himself with the help of Cade for a while and was back to full form (fighting Lockdown and Cemetery Wind) while his look didnt change.

So I think the scanning is just for a different aesthetically looking body but not indicative of the state of a robot's health and it wouldnt heal them either. The best example is Bumblebee in the first movie. he was in hiding so he looked like crap. And when he was no longer in hiding, he took on a nicer look. But the robot was always in as good a shape.

And Jetfire looked in much better shape in jet mode considering he was old and in stasis lock/sleeping being on Earth without energon for a long times (I don't mean like 10 years or whatever I mean a long long time) seems to be very bad for example parts were falling off of Jetfire after he was brought back from sleep.

[Deadput]

It was a joke considering every alt mode part is visible instead of some hidden or hard to see

I hate sounding like a broken record repeating this but my sense of humor is almost non existent

I only enjoy the comedy in Rooster Teeth these days (if you don't know who they are their pretty awesome if you can stand swear words and the occasional inappropriate joke they have a lot of different shows and game channels and their own website they existed before Youtube was a thing)


Otherwise I take everything seriously it's not that I choose the grumpy and depressed life it just choosed me.

[Sabrblade]

It was a joke considering every alt mode part is visible instead of some hidden or hard to see

I hate sounding like a broken record repeating this but my sense of humor is almost non existent

That's not our fault, though. We can't be expected to be completely serious all the time with no humor or levity in any of our posts. We're gonna joke around when we feel like it, regardless of whether one can recognize the jokes or not.

[Stuartmaximus]

I honestly hope he's given a voice that either adorable and/or witty, but not annoying.

That's a very hard balance. In any case I assumed they were gonna go all Bumblebee on him and not give him an actual voice; having a similar relationship with the kid as TFP Bee and Raf.

If they do that they better give Bee his voice back or make him use the radio a whole lot more like in AOE because we don't need two quiet Transformers especially if the Dinobots return with no voices.

Eh, it's not like the Transformers do a whole lot of talking in the movies anyway.

Aye...coz Wheelie hardly ever spoke!........NOT!!!!

[Seibertron]

Even setting that aside, Grimlock is at least as big a character as Hot Rod, if not bigger. He was a significant character in the pre-Movie G1 cartoon, and and even bigger player post-movie. He got a Masterpiece toy before Rodimus. He was in the recent High Moon games and Devastation when Hot Rod wasn't. He is in RID (or at least a character based on him is) when Hot Rod isn't.

The main six are as follows: Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Grimlock, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave.

[Deadput]

That's not our fault, though. We can't be expected to be completely serious all the time with no humor or levity in any of our posts. We're gonna joke around when we feel like it, regardless of whether one can recognize the jokes or not.

Never said it was it's a personality flaw on my part.

I just can't recognize sarcasm on the internet I can make those kind of jokes but I can't "read" them unless someone else says so.


I'm sorry I wish I could but there's nothing I can do about it besides get corrected.

[Deadput]

The main six are as follows: Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Grimlock, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave.

With Shockwave, Ratchet and Arcee being close but not close enough to that position and I remember when Jetfire used to be pretty big as well during Armada/Energon/Cybertron until ROTF/Animated/WFC and then he kinda just fell out recently.

The big green guy archetype is getting popular as well with Bulkhead,Hound and most recently Grimlock as well as Fixt/Squeek minicon type characters and Sideswipe/Smokescreen young rebellious sport car type characters that are't Bumblebee and I think Jazz is starting to become more popular again.


Ironhide is still stuck in a weird position as he keeps rising up in popularity and then dropping down again and a big part of that problem is with the Big Green Guy characters taking Ironhide's place as the tough guy and Ratchet becoming the close friend of Optimus Prime's


I hope Prowl and Cliffjumper start becoming big again is there anyone else you think is getting pretty big as a name or character archetype Seibertron?

[JazZeke]

Because the general audience who were asking for Hot Rod to be in the movie don't care about the Marvel Comics. They probably don't even know they exist.

And once again, you're talking out of your ass. Any fan old enough to have seen the movie to care about Hot Rod would have at least heard of the comics, if not read them firsthand. And the ignorance of a minority does not negate the Marvel comics' impact on the franchise, like the fact that the Marvel comics created the franchise as we know it.

Did I miss something, I dont see what doesnt make sense about that comment. The 80s TF movie was super popular amongst kids (its the reason many of us are here on the boards, I am sure) while the Marvel TF comics were not read as much. They were also primarily in the UK right? And the series proved unpopular by the end that the runs were very limited to the point where the most expensive Marvel TF issues are the last ones and not he earliest ones.

So yeah, I am pretty sure that many hot rod fans out there who were hoping to see him in the movies had not read the Marvel UK comics.

The Marvel comics were not primarily UK-based; Marvel UK just put out comics of their own in between the US issues, creating a much more fleshed-out (and sometimes more convoluted) continuity than the US issues alone. But they were popular enough that Simon Furman was brought over from the UK to take over the US comics when Budiansky stepped down.

As for their popularity, the Transformers comics were originally planned to be just a 4-part miniseries, but the larger-than-expected sales turned it into an ongoing comic that lasted eighty issues, as in seven years. It outlived the cartoon by four years.

[No One]

Who the hell do you THINK you are calling someone stupid? You don't like what I wrote? Get off the board.

[Burn]

Alright guys, calm down. No one needs to go away from the boards.

[Deadput]

Who the hell do you THINK you are calling someone stupid? You don't like what I wrote? Get off the board.

I said the statement was stupid don't get over dramatic it's the Internet...um what I do mean is that the kibble joke is pretty darn false especially if you look at the designs and you can eventually realize what part is what.

And who said I hate what you wrote was just correcting a fact like what over dedicated fans do.

And I'm good where I am I like this board it's a nice board I think I'll stay.

[JazZeke]

And I'm good where I am I like this board it's a nice board I think I'll stay.

[Burn]

I really do NOT like being ignored when I'm doing the Moderator thing ...

FYI, posts can be edited if you didn't see my post the first time ...

[Deadput]

I really do NOT like being ignored when I'm doing the Moderator thing ...

FYI, posts can be edited if you didn't see my post the first time ...

I'm done with that argument won't go back to it and I only tried to make sure he knows I wasn't directly insulting him and only saying I disagreed with his statement.

[Stuartmaximus]

Even setting that aside, Grimlock is at least as big a character as Hot Rod, if not bigger. He was a significant character in the pre-Movie G1 cartoon, and and even bigger player post-movie. He got a Masterpiece toy before Rodimus. He was in the recent High Moon games and Devastation when Hot Rod wasn't. He is in RID (or at least a character based on him is) when Hot Rod isn't.

The main six are as follows: Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Grimlock, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave.

Hold on....wasn't Megatron and Starscream killed off in one of the previous films?(ok...ok! i know they retrieved Megs head & hooked it up to Galvy so he would eventually become sentient).

Also

Do you think we'll see Hot Rod becoming Rodimus Prime in this movie?(& before anyone says something along the lines of "wouldn't we have seen pics of a weird looking winnebago by now? If that were gonna happen!" although knowing Bay...i doubt Rodimus alt mode would look exactly like his G1, it would prob be a truck of some sorts, although i'd prefer it to be a bus...maybe a tourbus with some weird design to it, but i highly doubt that it'll ever happen anyways) ermmm....maybe? maybe not? coz we never saw advanced pics of the battered old G1 truck that Optimus assumed, before the release of the film.

[ZeroWolf]

I think the main six thing was across the franchise as a whole nit just the movies. As for the rodimus prime thing, I'm not expecting it...This movie, it seems more fitting to cap off the end of the second trilogy that way, but who knows what will happen.

[DMSL]

Wow i am nog digging the designs at all for this movie.

I am pretty much done now with the Baverse Transformers ever since Extinction.

The only positive about the movies is Peter Cullen.

I hope for a reboot and he should definately be in it and Frank Welker.

[Rodimus Prime]

the general audience who were asking for Hot Rod to be in the movie don't care about the Marvel Comics. They probably don't even know they exist.

That is the single most asinine comment in this entire thread. And that's hard to do, considering some of the arguments that go on in here. But thank you for reminding me where your head actually is when it comes to Bayverse. I started to think you may be able to have a reasonable conversation with other people. My bad.

Did I miss something, I dont see what doesnt make sense about that comment. The 80s TF movie was super popular amongst kids (its the reason many of us are here on the boards, I am sure) while the Marvel TF comics were not read as much. They were also primarily in the UK right? And the series proved unpopular by the end that the runs were very limited to the point where the most expensive Marvel TF issues are the last ones and not he earliest ones.

So yeah, I am pretty sure that many hot rod fans out there who were hoping to see him in the movies had not read the Marvel UK comics.

As you pointed out, Hot Rod was in the '86 movie, which was very popular with those who were kids at the time. He's a G1 character, even more so than most of the others, as after G1 the name "Hot Rod" was seldom if ever used. Hasbro preferred "Rodimus." In every continuity since, he was "Rodimus." So if a fan wants "Hot Rod" in Bayverse, then they must at least have average knowledge of G1, which means they must know about the comics as well as the cartoon. If a certain fan is someone who was around then, like some of us geezers on these boards, then that fan definitely knows of the comics. So for Sly to say that those who ask for Hot Rod don't even know the comics exist is just ignorant.

[william-james88]

If a certain fan is someone who was around then, like some of us geezers on these boards, then that fan definitely knows of the comics. So for Sly to say that those who ask for Hot Rod don't even know the comics exist is just ignorant.

Saying people dont know about the comics was definitely a bit much, using hyperbole makes it hard to be taken seriously so I can get your reaction.

I can only speak for myself when I say that I knew about the movie, and thus about Hot Rod and how he replaced Optimus, but I didnt know about the comics storylines and that Grimlock became leader of the Autobots. I only knew of that when I researched why the MP came with a crown. I did know that the comics existed though. But oddly enough, I knew of the comics because the the cover artist for issue one is one of my favourite artists, Bill Seinkewizc (and because the final issues are quite expensive). I am from the beast wars generation though so that my facotr into my lack of knowledge or awareness in certain things.

[ZeroWolf]

If a certain fan is someone who was around then, like some of us geezers on these boards, then that fan definitely knows of the comics. So for Sly to say that those who ask for Hot Rod don't even know the comics exist is just ignorant.

Saying people dont know about the comics was definitely a bit much, using hyperbole makes it hard to be taken seriously so I can get your reaction.

I can only speak for myself when I say that I knew about the movie, and thus about Hot Rod and how he replaced Optimus, but I didnt know about the comics storylines and that Grimlock became leader of the Autobots. I only knew of that when I researched why the MP came with a crown. I did know that the comics existed though. But oddly enough, I knew of the comics because the the cover artist for issue one is one of my favourite artists, Bill Seinkewizc (and because the final issues are quite expensive). I am from the beast wars generation though so that my facotr into my lack of knowledge or awareness in certain things.

This is the same for me, it was only getting the ultimate guide by Simon Furman for Xmas back in 07-08 that I learned about Grimlock becoming a leader.

[Logan.]

Fixit?^^'''

[Stuartmaximus]

Fixit?^^'''

If Squeeks is supposed to be anything like Fixit.....then i wonder if he'll mispounce...mistrounce...mispronounce things?